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Offline GAJohnnie

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Re: DRUDGE POLL: Who Won Tonight's Debate?
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2016, 01:35:34 pm »
Quote from: HAPPY2BME on January 15, 2016, 05:21:45 am
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The progressive factions won't get behind Trump come hell or high water, so where else are the votes going to come from?

Trump is beating Hillary in the current polling. So why should we listen to your feelings about next Nov over the data?

There are a whole lot of "Reagan" Democrats Trump will get that none of the other GOP candidates appeal to. There is still a strong strain of "blue collar" Democrats, "clinging to their God and their Guns" as Obama said, that will go for Trump over Anti-God, anti-gun, Hillary. 

So if we "cannot win with Trump", we cannot win at all.
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Re: DRUDGE POLL: Who Won Tonight's Debate?
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2016, 02:06:36 pm »
Quote from: GAJohnnie on January 15, 2016, 01:35:34 pm
Trump is beating Hillary in the current polling. So why should we listen to your feelings about next Nov over the data?

There are a whole lot of "Reagan" Democrats Trump will get that none of the other GOP candidates appeal to. There is still a strong strain of "blue collar" Democrats, "clinging to their God and their Guns" as Obama said, that will go for Trump over Anti-God, anti-gun, Hillary. 

So if we "cannot win with Trump", we cannot win at all.

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You're on to something there, for sure.

Are you saying that if Trump wins, it will be (at least) with as much help from 'blue collar' Democrats as it is from (what is left of) the Republican Party?

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Re: DRUDGE POLL: Who Won Tonight's Debate?
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2016, 02:32:19 pm »
No, Bush won in 2004 by building a coalition against the Demcorats. Cruz could do the same. What I was responding to was  claim that "Trump cannot win because he cannot get the Progressives". If the 2016 win is based on "getting the Progressives" no one on the GOP side, except maybe Kaisch, can win.
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Re: DRUDGE POLL: Who Won Tonight's Debate?
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2016, 02:54:50 pm »
Quote from: GAJohnnie on January 15, 2016, 02:32:19 pm
No, Bush won in 2004 by building a coalition against the Demcorats. Cruz could do the same. What I was responding to was  claim that "Trump cannot win because he cannot get the Progressives". If the 2016 win is based on "getting the Progressives" no one on the GOP side, except maybe Kaisch, can win.

...hmmm are we talking progressive DEMS or progressive GOP?  I see Bush and Christie being able to gather some Progressives as well, not enough to win... but I see them both as progressive GOP.
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Re: DRUDGE POLL: Who Won Tonight's Debate?
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2016, 03:31:55 pm »
Quote from: GAJohnnie on January 15, 2016, 02:32:19 pm
No, Bush won in 2004 by building a coalition against the Demcorats. Cruz could do the same. What I was responding to was  claim that "Trump cannot win because he cannot get the Progressives". If the 2016 win is based on "getting the Progressives" no one on the GOP side, except maybe Kaisch, can win.

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That is critical.  You know what the results of 'assuming' anything on a small scale are.  This is no small scale.

The Progressives within the GOP will have their day at our expense - IF WE LET THEM.
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Re: DRUDGE POLL: Who Won Tonight's Debate?
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2016, 03:35:19 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on January 15, 2016, 02:54:50 pm
...hmmm are we talking progressive DEMS or progressive GOP?  I see Bush and Christie being able to gather some Progressives as well, not enough to win... but I see them both as progressive GOP.

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Chris Christie is everything in spades the progressive GOP is accusing Donald Trump of being (and isn't).
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