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Ted Cruz was a U.S. citizen at birth. Will a court decide if he's a natural-born citizen?
By Byron York (@ByronYork) • 1/7/16 10:19 AM


The Ted Cruz birther controversy is different from previous birther flaps involving President Obama and Marco Rubio. In Obama's case, the argument focused on whether Obama was in fact born in the United States — a debate that ended when Obama finally produced an original, long-form birth certificate showing he was born in Hawaii. The Rubio birther brouhaha did not involve doubts about whether Rubio was born in the U.S. — he was, in Miami — but over the fact that neither of his parents was born in this country. They weren't, but Rubio's birth in this country makes him indisputably a natural born American citizen, and thus eligible for the presidency.

Now comes the Cruz flap. There's no doubt that Cruz was born in Canada, to a Cuban father and a mother who was a natural-born U.S. citizen. The question is whether that makes Cruz himself a natural born citizen, and thus eligible to serve in the White House.

As many commentators have pointed out, there's no Supreme Court case defining the Constitution's "natural born" phrase. But that doesn't mean Cruz's status is just conjecture. There is plenty of U.S. law defining who is a citizen at birth — that is, a citizen from the first moment of life, and not a foreigner who became a U.S. citizen by naturalization — and under that Ted Cruz was a citizen at birth.

A few years ago, I looked into the law because of the Rubio controversy. I talked to two lawyers who had done extensive work on yet another birther controversy — the 2007 Democratic lawsuit against John McCain, who was born in the Panama Canal Zone to American parents (one of whom was serving in the U.S. Navy). McCain won that litigation, and the case left his lawyers, Theodore Olson and Matthew McGill, with a close knowledge of U.S. citizenship law.

First, the law itself. From the story I wrote in 2012:

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The Constitution specifies that a president must be a "natural born citizen" of the United States, but it does not define the term. The Supreme Court has never clarified the issue, but there is a law, 8 U.S. Code 1401, that spells out in detail who is a citizen.

The law uses the phrase "citizens of the United States at birth" and lists categories of people who fit that description.

First, there are people born inside the United States. No question about that; their citizenship is established by the 14th Amendment.

Then there are the people who are born outside the United States to parents who are both American citizens, provided one of them has lived in the U.S. for any period of time. And then there are the people who are born outside the United States to one parent who is a U.S. citizen and the other who is an alien, provided the citizen parent lived in the United States or its possessions for at least five years, at least two of them after age 14.

That last category clearly includes Cruz, making him a "citizen of the United States at birth." The only question, then, is whether a citizen at birth is also a natural born citizen.

"My conclusion would be that if you are a citizen as a consequence of your birth, that's a natural born citizen," Olson told me in 2012. "It is not our view that natural born citizenship requires the citizenship of both parents."

"The key problem here is that the Supreme Court has never told us what the phrase natural born citizen means," added McGill. "Most people believe it to mean that if you are a citizen of the U.S. at birth, you are a natural born American citizen."

Nevertheless, until there is a court case, there is no absolutely definitive definition of "natural born citizen." Which means that for the moment, the argument is as much political as it is legal. Which is not the best news for Cruz, who not only has rivals on the campaign trail — Donald Trump set off this controversy by saying Cruz's situation could be a "big problem" for the Republican Party — but enemies in the Senate as well.

"I don't know the answer to that," said John McCain, who doesn't like Cruz, when discussing Cruz's birth situation in an interview Wednesday. McCain pointed out that he, McCain, was born on an American military base, which was not the same as Cruz's problem. "That's different from being born on foreign soil so I think there is a question," McCain said. "I am not a constitutional scholar on that, but I think it's worth looking into. I don't think it's illegitimate to look into it."

Translation: You're on your own, Ted.

Will the question finally be settled by Cruz? Will there be a court case in the heat of the campaign? Maybe not. Back in 2012, in a different context, Olson didn't think so. "The funny thing is that the courts probably won't touch this in anticipation of an election," he told me. "And then, once the election is over, if the person is elected, the courts would be very reluctant to overturn the will of the people."

UPDATE: In response to this question, a number of Twitter followers have claimed that Cruz is not a natural born U.S. citizen because his mother "renounced" her U.S. citizenship while living in Canada when Cruz was born. This rumor was apparently started by Florida Democratic Rep. Alan Grayson, who told the press that Cruz's mother "may have elected to give up her U.S. citizenship."

The Cruz campaign says that is categorically false. "She did not renounce her U.S. citizenship," says Cruz spokesman Rick Tyler. "She was born an American citizen in Delaware. She never had Canadian citizenship. Just like Ted, she has never breathed a single breath on this earth when she was not an American citizen."
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Absolutely right!

Ted Cruz was definitely a citizen of the United States at birth!  Whether or not he is a 'Natural Born" citizen is another question entirely!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Citizen at birth is natural born. At the time of founding (based on the first naturalization laws, Naturalization Act of 1790) written by the same founders who wrote the NBC clause in the Constitution, there were two types of citizens- those born as citizens (Natural Born Citizens) or those who were naturalized citizens.

This is an exact quote from the Naturalization Act of 1790- so we don't need any question what the founder's intent was.

"The children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens"

http://legislink.org/us/stat-1-103

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Got Sherrif Arpaio ??  Got Orly ??

Did his mother apply for Canadian citizenship? That should be in official records. If the application included a renunciation of US citizenship, that too would be in records, presumably.

Did his father apply for and obtain Canadian citizenship? I ask only to lay alongside his mother's fact trail, and as to intent.

Finally there is wide agreement that high courts have NOT laid down definitive case law regarding Presidents.

Did Ted's parents catch him memorizing and reciting the US Constitution, and decide to hurry to the states so he could be President?
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Got Sherrif Arpaio ??  Got Orly ??

Did his mother apply for Canadian citizenship? That should be in official records. If the application included a renunciation of US citizenship, that too would be in records, presumably.

Did his father apply for and obtain Canadian citizenship? I ask only to lay alongside his mother's fact trail, and as to intent.

Finally there is wide agreement that high courts have NOT laid down definitive case law regarding Presidents.

Did Ted's parents catch him memorizing and reciting the US Constitution, and decide to hurry to the states so he could be President?

He was secretly mentored by Barry Goldwater and his entire life is a fabrication to lead up to this point. /sarc

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Absolutely right!

Ted Cruz was definitely a citizen of the United States at birth!  Whether or not he is a 'Natural Born" citizen is another question entirely!

Since he is obviously a citizen by statute, you know the answer to that question!

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Since he is obviously a citizen by statute, you know the answer to that question!

Of course I do!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

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And then there are the people who are born outside the United States to one parent who is a U.S. citizen and the other who is an alien, provided the citizen parent lived in the United States or its possessions for at least five years, at least two of them after age 14.

Here's what I find confusing and haven't seen addressed by the pundits:  It's been reported that Cruz was born in Canada to a Dad who is an alien to the US, and a Mom who at the time of his birth was living outside the US and was a Canadian citizen.   

Is Cruz a natural born citizen under this scenario?

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The light bulb just went off!!!!

We are looking at this wrong. If Cruz wants to win over the left, instead of defending his NBC status, he should just declare himself an Illegal Alien.