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Rubio goes on record – �There Is No Right to Illegally Immigrate�
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Senator Marco Rubio is �increasingly optimistic� that he�ll win the 2016 presidential election, but he understands that he�ll have to overcome the conservative frustration with his work on the �Gang of Eight� immigration bill to do so. �You don�t have a right to illegally immigrate here,� the Florida Republican said during a discussion with NR�s Jim Geraghty at the National Review Institute�s Ideas Summit in Washington, D.C. this morning.

Rubio made the statement while discussing changes that he would make to the Gang of Eight bill if he were to take on immigration as president. �And one of the problems I have with the groups out there that are advocating for immigration reform, some of them, is they approach this debate with the argument that they have a right to be here,� he said. �It�s not a right�.�.�.�there is no right to illegally immigrate anywhere in the world.�

Rubio said that President Obama�s executive orders on immigration created a magnet for illegal immigration and exacerbated the border crisis, making it necessary to secure the border and take other steps to prevent illegal immigration. With that accomplished, he supports requiring illegal immigrants who have been in the country for at least 10 years to pay a fine, go through a background check, and learn English.

�And in exchange for all of that, what you would get is the equivalent of a non-immigrant, non-permanent work visa to be in the U.S. and you would have to be in that status for a significant period of time,� Rubio said. �And at some point, if you choose, you could apply for permanent residency, but you�d have to do it through that modernized legal immigration system and you�d have to do it just like everybody else, not a special process or anything of that nature.�

The would-be immigration reformer added that most people who went through such a process pursuant to Ronald Reagan�s 1986 immigration overhaul did not go on to become citizens. Rubio didn�t devote the whole conversation to immigration. After discussing the tax plan that he has written with Senator Mike Lee (R., Utah), and Social Security and Medicare reforms that he feels need to be passed, he also pointed to another crisis in the making.
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2015, 05:21:10 pm »
So what?  There is no "right" to murder, burn down someone else's home, rape, or rob someone and they happen all the time.  If legislators choose not to close borders to illegals, and judges refuse to enforce laws, and prosecutors's use "discretion" and not charge illegals, "illegal" becomes de facto legal.

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Re: Rubio goes on record – �There Is No Right to Illegally Immigrate�
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2015, 05:39:01 pm »
The Universal Free Press isn't a very reputable site, to my knowledge.  Some of it's reports have been debunked on Snopes as completely false.

Example:

http://www.snopes.com/obama-suspends-2nd-amendment/

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Re: Rubio goes on record – �There Is No Right to Illegally Immigrate�
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2015, 06:05:38 pm »
So what?  There is no "right" to murder, burn down someone else's home, rape, or rob someone and they happen all the time.  If legislators choose not to close borders to illegals, and judges refuse to enforce laws, and prosecutors's use "discretion" and not charge illegals, "illegal" becomes de facto legal.

"Law" is defined by enforcement. If there is no enforcement, then there is no Law. And without law, by definition, nothing is legal or illegal.

For example it is not legal or illegal to walk down the street. It just is. And so, without border enforcement, and without immigration enforcement, crossing the border is neither legal or illegal. It just is. Which of course means that there is no border. It does not exist at all.
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Re: Rubio goes on record – �There Is No Right to Illegally Immigrate�
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2015, 07:44:54 pm »
The Universal Free Press isn't a very reputable site, to my knowledge.  Some of it's reports have been debunked on Snopes as completely false.

Example:

http://www.snopes.com/obama-suspends-2nd-amendment/

My understanding of Snopes is it is some man and woman with no particular training using the internet to find the truth.  Not real reputable either.

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Re: Rubio goes on record – �There Is No Right to Illegally Immigrate�
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2015, 01:12:30 am »
My understanding of Snopes is it is some man and woman with no particular training using the internet to find the truth.  Not real reputable either.

Snopes has repeatedly been proven to be worthless when it comes to discovering what is or is not true about anything.
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Re: Rubio goes on record – �There Is No Right to Illegally Immigrate�
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2015, 02:05:54 am »
Snopes needs it's own Snopes to keep track whether it's spouting truth or fiction on a particular subject.

That said, Marco - why haven't you come out with this before, and why did you flop so miserably with the Gang of 8 fiasco?
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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2015, 02:32:01 am »
Snopes has repeatedly been proven to be worthless when it comes to discovering what is or is not true about anything.

Snopes is really good - for technology or science myths and fallacies. Politics and social stuff, meh, they try, but they're not great.
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Re: Rubio goes on record – �There Is No Right to Illegally Immigrate�
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2015, 02:01:42 pm »
Rubio has so many different positions on illegal immigration that he could debate himself for at least four hours.

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Re: Rubio goes on record – �There Is No Right to Illegally Immigrate�
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2015, 05:27:42 pm »
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There Is No Right to Illegally Immigrate

Here's the question Marco:  Is there a right to stay if you illegally immigrate?