Author Topic: Ryan unveils sweeping $1.6T deal on government funding, taxes  (Read 8496 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Machiavelli

  • Curmudgeon
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,222
  • Gender: Male
  • Realist
Re: Ryan unveils sweeping $1.6T deal on government funding, taxes
« Reply #75 on: December 18, 2015, 03:25:21 am »
The total vote was 318-109

Republicans voted 241-3

Democrats voted 77- 106

So a lot of folks here are siding with the Democrats.

http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/114/house/1/703

Online Bigun

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 54,290
  • Gender: Male
  • Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God
    • The FairTax Plan
Re: Ryan unveils sweeping $1.6T deal on government funding, taxes
« Reply #76 on: December 18, 2015, 03:43:08 am »
The total vote was 318-109

Republicans voted 241-3

Democrats voted 77- 106

So a lot of folks here are siding with the Democrats.

http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/114/house/1/703

This vote was on an amendment to the bill and not on the bill itself!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

HAPPY2BME

  • Guest
Re: Ryan unveils sweeping $1.6T deal on government funding, taxes
« Reply #77 on: December 18, 2015, 06:32:32 am »
by Julia Hahn17 Dec 2015Washington D.C.

Prior to Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI)’s election to House Speaker, American victims of illegal alien crime warned conservatives against supporting Ryan’s Speakership, given his two-decade-long history of pushing for open borders.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/11/exclusive-numbersusa-president-paul-ryan-terrifying-open-borders-seeps-every-pore/
At an October press conference just days before Ryan’s election as Speaker, the American victims expressed concern that if Paul Ryan were made Speaker, Congress would advance immigration policies that put innocent American lives in danger.

The American victims’ concerns now seem confirmed by Wednesday morning’s unveiling of Paul Ryan’s $1.1 trillion, 2,000-page spending bill, which will reward lawless Sanctuary Cities with federal funding grants. Division B Title II of Ryan’s omnibus funds various grant programs for the Department of Justice (pages 167, 168, and 169) and contains no language that would restrict the provision of such grants to sanctuary jurisdictions.

Yet the American victims’ repeated warnings seemed to fall upon deaf ears in Congress—as many of the members of the conservative House Freedom Caucus helped propel Ryan into the Speaker’s position.

“We don’t want Paul Ryan whatsoever. He’s worse than Boehner. We’ve seen what he will do [if he’s elected Speaker]” the Remembrance Project’s founder, Maria Espinoza, told Breitbart News at the time.

“All of us have been calling [our representatives],” Mary Ann Mendoza said. “We’re telling them: ‘No Paul Ryan.’ He’s been for amnesty for years. He will take this country in the very direction we’ve been fighting against.” Mendoza’s thirty-two-year-old son Sergeant Brandon Mendoza was murdered by a previously-convicted criminal illegal alien, who was driving the wrong way down a freeway with a blood alcohol level that was three-times the legal limit.

Although their press conference was held a mere ten-minute drive away from Paul Ryan’s office on Capitol Hill, Ryan did not attend the event. Instead, the only member of Congress present to listen to the victims’ stories was Rep. Brian Babin (R-TX), who recently introduced a popular proposal for immigration curbs—a proposal which Paul Ryan rejected from inclusion in House legislation.

When Breitbart News met with House Freedom Caucus Chairman Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) prior to the Speaker’s election, Breitbart asked Jordan specifically about the American victims’ concerns:

    Breitbart News: “At a press event for the families of the victims of illegal alien crime… they said that they felt they [would get] better representation under Rep. John Boehner (R-OH) versus Paul Ryan. They said Paul Ryan has been completely open borders, he’s had a two decade long history of pushing for open borders policies, of derailing Civil Rights leader—”

    Jim Jordan quickly dismissed their fears: “Julia, do you actually think that the House Freedom Caucus with Rep. Dave Brat (R-VA) as one of our key members is really not going to hold our leadership accountable to doing the right thing and not being for open borders? I mean, I know the makeup of our group and we are not going to tolerate that kind of approach and that’s why Paul was asked the question [about whether he would move immigration legislation under President Obama] and that’s why he understands where we’re at and, more broadly, where the majority of the Republican conference is today.”

However, it should be noted that while Jordan cited Dave Brat as proof that the House Freedom Caucus would hold Ryan accountable on immigration, Dave Brat voted against Paul Ryan for Speaker of the House. By contrast, Jim Jordan voted for Paul Ryan.

The nine founding members of the House Freedom Caucus include Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH), Rep. Scott Garrett (R-NJ), Rep. John Fleming (R-LA), Rep. Matt Salmon (R-AZ), Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI), Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC), Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-SC), Rep. Ron DeSantis (R-FL), and Rep. Raul Labrador (R-ID).

All nine of them voted for Paul Ryan and were instrumental in Ryan’s election as Speaker.

As Breitbart News explained at the time:

    Following his endorsement by Mick Mulvaney, founder of the House Freedom Caucus, Ryan is effectively ensured the Speakership. That will put him in an even more powerful position than the Vice Presidency, potentially able to complete his widely-documented two-decade push for amnesty and unlimited migration… Conservatives worry that with Ryan wielding the Speaker’s gavel— a man whom longtime immigration fighter Roy Beck described as “the heart and soul of crony capitalism” and whose open borders ideology “seeps out of every pore of his being”— many of the popular enforcement bills championed by conservative members such as Reps. Brian Babin, Rep. Steve King (R-IA), Dave Brat, and Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL) will never see the light of day.

Earlier this year, Kate Steinle’s father testified in front of Congress. Kate Steinle was gunned down in broad daylight by a five-time deported illegal criminal alien whose presence in the country was the direct result of San Francisco’s deadly sanctuary city policies. Kate Steinle’s father told members of Congress:

    The day she was killed, we were walking arm in arm on Pier 14 in San Francisco, enjoying a wonderful day together. Suddenly a shot rang out, Kate fell, and looked at me and said “Help me, Dad.” Those are the last words I will ever hear from my daughter.

Following the release of his omnibus spending package, Paul Ryan’s office put out a statement saying, “Omnibus Bill Advances Republican Priorities.”

In a Thursday press conference, Paul Ryan said, “I feel very good about where we’re going.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/17/paul-ryans-omnibus-confirms-fears-alien-crime-victims-funds-sanctuary-cities/

rangerrebew

  • Guest
Re: Ryan unveils sweeping $1.6T deal on government funding, taxes
« Reply #78 on: December 18, 2015, 10:23:17 am »
Congressmen unload on $1.1 trillion, 2,000-page omnibus
'How do you sell this back home? Constituents across this country feel betrayed'
Published: 10 hours ago
 

The Republican-controlled Congress appears poised to approve a $1.1 trillion omnibus bill to fund the government through the fiscal year that Democrats say is a big win for their agenda and that will pass with a majority of Democratic votes.

The rush to exit Washington before the holidays has also led to likely passage of a nearly $700 billion tax bill that makes expiring tax break provisions permanent and provides certainty to many small business owners. However, the omnibus bill is the legislation getting the attention.

The White House is calling it a Democratic victory and Democrats on the House Appropriations Committee created a list of their policy wins along with the many GOP priorities left on the cutting-room floor. Among the most frustrating items for conservatives include full funding for Planned Parenthood, sanctuary cities, the refugee resettlement program, the new Green Climate Fund created at the Paris climate conference and controversial government rules on water, ozone and power plants. In addition, the deal exceeds the caps placed on spending by the 2011 Budget Control Act by about $50 billion.

“How do you sell this back home?” asked Rep. Paul Gosar, R-Ariz. “You see what’s going on in the presidential race, why outsiders are winning the day, and that’s because the constituents across this country feel betrayed.”

“The Republicans control the House and the Senate, and yet this bill is very much a Democratic bill,” added Gosar.

Listen to the WND/Radio America interview with Rep. Paul Gosar, R-Ariz.:

Over in the Senate, the conservative reaction is very similar.

"There is a high degree of frustration because what happens in a process like this – where there is no process other than having four leaders from the two houses of Congress going behind closed doors and negotiating a 2,000-page bill – everyone is left out," said Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah. "That means you've got 433 congressmen whose constituents are effectively disenfranchised and 98 senators whose constituents are effectively disenfranchised, having no voice in the process at all."

Lee said that approach led to some very bad provisions in the omnibus that would never be approved on their own.

"A lot of things that are in there shouldn't be and wouldn't be if we had an open process," he said. "A lot of things that are not in there but should be are left out of it as a result of the fact that it's just impossible for four people to accurately represent the collective wishes and will of 300 million Americans."

What do YOU think? Sound off on GOP budget deal in today's WND poll

Gosar is especially mad about the energy provisions in the bill. While a decades-old ban on crude oil exports is being lifted, he said much more power is also granted to the government on overseeing the energy industry that will kill coal and dry up fracking. He said America won't have much oil to export anymore. He's also furious that the IRS is getting $200 million more from taxpayers.

Lee said he is most upset about a cyber-security provision that was inserted with no debate and is actually worse than a bill the Senate rejected earlier in the year. He also slammed the full funding of the Green Climate Fund, which will collect billions in taxpayer dollars for the United Nations to hand out to nations allegedly impacted by climate change.

Listen to the WND/Radio America interview with Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah:

Lee said Congress is on a vicious cycle that hurts the country and makes cynics of the people.

"This kind of thing perpetuates itself as long as members of Congress continue to vote for bills like this," he said. "As long as they continue to pass, I think they will continue to happen this way. It won't be until members of Congress say, 'No, I don't care who's in charge. I'm not going to vote for a bill like this where I'm completely left out and where my voters in my state have no voice."

Instead of ramming through a 2,000-plus page spending bill with just a couple days notice, Lee wants to slow things down with a six-week continuing resolution so every lawmaker can weigh in on long-term spending.

"Let's pass something to keep the government funded for six weeks or so, and let's come back and put this bill on the table perhaps as a starting point," Lee said. "And then have votes on what that bill's going to look like at the end of the day."

While very few conservatives are thrilled with the negotiating done by House Speaker Paul Ryan, Gosar said Ryan was also dealt a terrible hand by former Speaker John Boehner.

"There was a lot of manure that was left in the barn to the speaker, but I'm also questioning the resolve in negotiating here," Gosar said.

Ryan said in a press conference Thursday, "I feel good about where we are in both the spending and tax bills that are being considered today and tomorrow as well. The spending bill had some big wins for the country ..."

Gosar is particularly upset by the number of riders left out of the omnibus, provisions he said are sponsored by members of both parties and passed with majority support but that leadership kicked to the curb.

Lee said it's part of the political calculating done by leadership.

"They're counting votes, and they're saying we're going to have to rely on at least some Democrats to vote for this because we know that some Republicans are not going to like this bill or this process," he said. "That leads to a discussion of what can and what can't pass. Sometimes that's going to produce a bill like this one that Democrats might end up being a lot happier with. That has some Republicans understandably upset."

One of the frequent arguments used by GOP leaders and their allies in these budget debates is that too many conservatives allow their demands for a perfect bill to stop them from backing a good bill, and the more Republicans reject such measures, the more the pot must be sweetened to attract Democrats.

Lee said that argument is baseless.

"That argument carries no water here," he said. "That argument doesn't even apply here. It's not just that the bill is imperfect. We're not demanding perfection. We're not insisting on perfection and nothing else. What we're saying is let's at least have some process. When there is no process at all and most members of the House and most members of the Senate are completely excluded from it, you're going to end up with a bad bill, not just an imperfect bill but a really bad one."

Another line of attack on the conservative position is that the GOP must accept some bad elements of a final deal so long as Democrats control the White House and can gum things up in the Senate like they did earlier this year on separate bills to support veterans and military construction. If they don't go along, according to the argument, Republicans will get blamed for a shutdown regardless of the facts.

Gosar isn't buying it.

"That's what everyone said in 2013 for 2014's outlook. Guess what happened? Republicans won majorities," said Gosar, referring to the GOP fight to defund Obamacare two years ago.

The only major difference between Gosar and Lee in response to the omnibus is how to respond. While Lee is pushing a six-week continuing resolution to trigger meaningful debate, Gosar is ready to make the politicians stay in D.C. right now until this is resolved in a responsible way.

"We should be prepared to stay here," he said. "We should have looked them in the eye and said, 'You know what? We didn't get our job done, so guess what? When you want to walk out with all the riders moved, then prepare all your members and staffs to prepare to stay in Washington, D.C., for Christmas."

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/congressmen-unload-on-1-1-trillion-2000-page-omnibus/#vlvZ7tBDHrBO3EKG.99

rangerrebew

  • Guest
Re: Ryan unveils sweeping $1.6T deal on government funding, taxes
« Reply #79 on: December 18, 2015, 10:42:20 am »

WH Praises Spending Deal With GOP Congress: 'We Succeeded'

(CNSNews.com) - The White House objects to a few Republican provisions in the omnibus $1.1-trillion spending bill, but overall, "We succeeded," White House spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters on Wednesday.

"So we walked into these negotiations focused on making sure that Republicans would not succeed in advancing their ideological agenda through the budgetary process, and I think, based on all of the solid reporting work that you have done over the last several weeks, there were a variety of attempts that Republicans undertook to try to do exactly that, and we did succeed in fighting off those efforts.

What is also true about this budget agreement, and this goes to one of the central priorities of the administration over the course of this year, is that it provides substantial funding for both our economic and national security priorities over and above the sequester.

"So, you know, we feel good about the outcome, primarily because we got a compromise budget agreement that fought off a wide variety of ideological riders, but yet ensures the priorities of that this administration has identified when it comes to investing in middle class families and protecting the country."

Earnest listed some of the White House "wins" in both the spending bill and a companion bill that extends tax breaks:

--No easing of Dodd-Frank Wall Street regulations;
--No delay in the fiduciary rule, which requires retirement advisers to put their clients' interests ahead of their own profits;
--No restrictions on Syrian refugees;
--No funding cuts for administration's effort to fight climate change;
--No rider blocking a rule that says a single individual may be considered an employee of both the franchise and the parent company (more labor lawsuits);
--No repeal of Obamacare's medical device tax (two-year delay);
--No repeal of Obamacare's Cadillac tax on generous company-sponsored health plans (two year delay);
--No funding cut or IRS audit for Planned Parenthood.

Earnest also hailed the omnibus for including "the biggest investment in the deployment of renewable energy in American history."

"For a long time, the administration had to engage in negotiations with Congress on a yearly basis about the extension, for example, of the production tax credit -- a tax credit that provides powerful incentives to the wind industry. And these were tax credits that essentially were negotiated at the very end of the year so that they were almost, you know, completely retroactive. This created a lot of uncertainty about the financial policies that would be in place for wind energy companies that are trying to make longer-term decisions. That's why we believe it's critically important that we succeeded in securing essentially a five-year commitment to the production tax credit.

"We also succeeded in securing a five-year tax credit for the solar industry. This is significant because we would be building on substantial momentum that has already been built up. Since the president was elected to office, we have tripled the amount of energy that is produced in this country by the wind. And we have increased by 30-fold the amount of energy that is produced in this country by solar."

Earnest noted that Republicans tried and failed to limit "a wide variety of clean energy policies that this administration has long championed," including the Clean Power (anti-coal) Plan, the Clean Water Act, stricter ozone standards, the social cost of carbon, and the Endangered Species Act.

"Those efforts by Republicans to undermine the implementation of those rules was also rebuffed," Earnest said.

"So when you take a look at the entire package, I think the country can feel good about how this budget reflects the priorities that the president has laid out when it comes to transitioning to the low-carbon economy of the future."

Earnest noted that there are a number of provisions in the omnibus that the president does not support.

"But this is a compromise proposal and, you know, based on the priorities that we have set out to accomplish, the president is pleased with the final product even if it does reflect the kind of compromise that's necessary when you have a Democratic president negotiating with large majorities of Republicans in both the House and Senate."

 

Source URL: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/white-house-reaction-omnibus-spending-bill-we-succeeded