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December 14, 2015
By Alana Wise
CORONA, Calif. (Reuters) – With tears in her eyes, Mohammad Halisi’s young daughter asked her father “Why are we bad?” after seeing reports that a Muslim couple killed 14 people in California last week, and wanted to know whether she should hide the fact she is Muslim from others at her school.
Recalling the conversation while choking back his own tears, the 61-year-old father said he felt frustrated that he and his family were being held responsible for the actions of people he branded “a couple of idiot terrorists.”
“It’s getting to a point where you have to hide who you are,” Halisi said on Friday night at the Islamic Society of Corona-Norco mosque where leaders and law enforcement met to address negative perceptions of the Muslim community.
“Seven-year-old kids cannot say they’re Muslims because of the bad atmosphere we have.” 
The mosque is just 25 miles (40 km) from San Bernardino, where U.S.-born Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and his Pakistani-born wife Tashfeen Malik, 29, opened fire on his co-workers last week in what the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation is treating as an act of terror.
Malik had pledged allegiance to Islamic State on Facebook around the time of the attack and the FBI believes the two had been radicalized for some time.
Muslim Americans across the country have said they are worried about a backlash, as happened in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks. A handful of incidents at mosques and a rash of anti-Muslim political rhetoric over the last week appear to be compounding their fears of growing Islamophobia.
On Friday, a fire burned the entrance to a mosque in Southern California’s Coachella Valley, some 75 miles from San Bernardino. A 23-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of arson and for committing a hate crime, the Los Angeles Times reported.
A pig’s head was thrown at a mosque in Philadelphia on Monday and a mosque in Jersey City, New Jersey received a letter calling Muslims “evil” and telling them to “go back to the desert.”
Several U.S. mosques this year have been subjected to protests by armed groups. On Saturday, a group of fewer than 10 people, some wearing camouflage and rifles slung over their shoulders, stood outside a mosque in the Dallas suburb of Richardson and held signs and American flags, according to images and reports from local media.
 
‘WE FEEL IT MORE’
U.S. President Barack Obama asked Americans on Sunday to not turn against Muslims after the Paris and San Bernardino attacks, but rather work with the Muslim-American community in fighting homegrown extremism.
But then Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump  ratcheted up the rhetoric on Monday by calling for a ban on Muslim immigrants, students and other travelers entering the country, provoking sharp rebukes across the U.S. political spectrum and from abroad.
Close to San Bernardino, at the Islamic Center of Riverside, where Farook once prayed regularly, members said mosque attendance continued to be low because people did not feel safe.
“Because this happened next door and because our mosque was mentioned, we feel it more,” said a 50-year-old Palestinian immigrant who knew Farook but declined to be identified by name.
It is not just Muslims that fear the attacks on Muslims.
Around the corner from the Islamic Society of the Coachella Valley, where Friday’s fire occurred, neighbor Israel Orantes said he was concerned about safety, given that it was the second time in about a year the mosque was targeted.
“We are exposed over here,” said Orantes, who has lived on what he described as a peaceful, neighborly street for 14 years. It did not help, he added, that Trump was stirring up animosity with his comments.
“We know we have crazy Muslims, crazy Christians around. They think attacking the mosque is the solution, but we’re over here, exposed,” he said in front of his home.

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Re: Muslim Americans struggle with fallout from San Bernardino attack
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2015, 01:49:45 am »
There ain't been much "fallout" yet.

Wait until a few more of these happen, perhaps worse attacks.

I predict the fallout will grow heavier...

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Re: Muslim Americans struggle with fallout from San Bernardino attack
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2015, 02:15:29 am »
Gee, maybe because the evil book about a false prophet literally instructs those who follow it to rape, murder, and take over the lands of infidels?
Trump has created a cult and looks more and more like Hitler every day.
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Re: Muslim Americans struggle with fallout from San Bernardino attack
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2015, 03:07:18 am »
Reuters sent one of their most promising interns to write this piece of propaganda fluff.

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Re: Muslim Americans struggle with fallout from San Bernardino attack
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2015, 03:12:59 am »
Reuters sent one of their most promising interns to write this piece of propaganda fluff.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/alana-wise-21384a82

Yea, aside from the emotional stuff, I was not aware that some of this stuff was actually happening.. I thought it was something obama was making up to be honest...

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Re: Muslim Americans struggle with fallout from San Bernardino attack
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2015, 04:16:50 am »
Personally I don' care if they choose a violent cult then that is on them.

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Re: Muslim Americans struggle with fallout from San Bernardino attack
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2015, 06:03:05 pm »
What fallout?  Not wanting to get blown up or shot to death at your workplace is a fallout? 


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Re: Muslim Americans struggle with fallout from San Bernardino attack
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2015, 06:11:47 pm »
There ain't been much "fallout" yet.

Wait until a few more of these happen, perhaps worse attacks.

I predict the fallout will grow heavier...

Hmm 1 fire, (perpetrator arrested)  and 1 pig's head thrown on a Mosques step. Time for the media, and the political establishment, to reign in they hysteric out of control histrionics about a non existent backlash.
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Re: Muslim Americans struggle with fallout from San Bernardino attack
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2015, 06:14:10 pm »
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With tears in her eyes, Mohammad Halisi’s young daughter asked her father “Why are we bad?” after seeing reports that a Muslim couple killed 14 people in California last week, and wanted to know whether she should hide the fact she is Muslim from others at her school.

And that effing Trump, with his desire to ban Muslims, only aggravates the situation.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Re: Muslim Americans struggle with fallout from San Bernardino attack
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2015, 06:16:13 pm »
And that effing Trump, with his desire to ban Muslims, only aggravates the situation.

And that  Sinkspur with his pathetic need to lie daily about Trump is utterly irrelevant to this topic
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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2015, 06:30:25 pm »
 
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With tears in her eyes, Mohammad Halisi’s young daughter asked her father “Why are we bad?” after seeing reports that a Muslim couple killed 14 people in California last week...

Even the kid gets it... why are moslems bad and killing people?


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Re: Muslim Americans struggle with fallout from San Bernardino attack
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2015, 06:39:57 pm »

Even the kid gets it... why are moslems bad and killing people?
Then dad took kid to house where he beat her and made her read the koran again.


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Re: Muslim Americans struggle with fallout from San Bernardino attack
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2015, 07:23:17 pm »
Among the reasons cited for internment of Japanese during WWII, was to protect them, against reprisals for Pearl Harbor.

And we need to remember that while the internment of Japanese got the most attention, there were smaller numbers of Germans and Italians that were interned as well.

Japanese internment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans

Italian internment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Italian_Americans

Before enlisting at age 17 in the United States Marines, my father worked on construction of the camp at Heart Mountain, Wyoming.

My parents never taught me believe the US did something wrong, by interning these groups. In the 1970s working in Lost Angeles, I had two work associates from families that were interned during WWII. Both were natural born citizens, like me. And both served in our armed forces during Vietnam, like I did.

I allow that they may have held some inner resentment about internment, but I feel they equally knew the sentiment at the time which caused internment.

Finally many fine WWII servicemen came from the Japanese internment process.

My father-in-law and one of his brothers served during WWII. They were sons of two Italian immigrants.


 
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Re: Muslim Americans struggle with fallout from San Bernardino attack
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2015, 07:33:50 pm »
"With tears in her eyes, Mohammad Halisi’s young daughter asked her father “Why are we bad?” after seeing reports that a Muslim couple killed 14 people in California last week, and wanted to know whether she should hide the fact she is Muslim from others at her school."

Because the religion you believe in above everything else in your life is a death cult with a Marx-like commandment to take over the entire world by force or put to death those who will not submit...and one whose prime figure is a pedophile, rapist, megalomaniac mass murderer.  That's why you are bad.
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Re: Muslim Americans struggle with fallout from San Bernardino attack
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2015, 07:39:26 pm »
The remarks of some on this thread bring should bring shame to this forum.

But they won't.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Re: Muslim Americans struggle with fallout from San Bernardino attack
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2015, 07:39:56 pm »
And that effing Trump, with his desire to ban Muslims, only aggravates the situation.

Good.

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Re: Muslim Americans struggle with fallout from San Bernardino attack
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2015, 07:52:23 pm »
The remarks of some on this thread bring should bring shame to this forum.

But they won't.

If there was religion whose adherents were regularly killing "non-believers" around the world, and whose leader was Warren Jeffs or Jim Jones or Sung Myun Moon or David Berg or David Koresh or Marshall Appelwhite, you would condemn them in the harshest terms (rightfully). 

Mohammed is many magnitudes of order worse than all these (and many more) combined.  Yet you whitewash the followers of Mohammed, I suspect because there are a billion worshippers of that murderous devil.
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Re: Muslim Americans struggle with fallout from San Bernardino attack
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2015, 07:56:41 pm »
The remarks of some on this thread bring should bring shame to this forum.

But they won't.

The only poster bringing shame on this forum Sink is you. Go re-read your postings. You have yet to post a single thoughtful, rational post. How you manged to achieve a perfect "no thought just bile" record as a poster is a forum wonder.

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Re: Muslim Americans struggle with fallout from San Bernardino attack
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2015, 07:59:33 pm »
The only poster bringing shame on this forum Sink is you. Go re-read your postings. You have yet to post a single thoughtful, rational post. How you manged to achieve a perfect "no thought just bile" record as a poster is a forum wonder.

I don't think that's fair, GAJ.

Sink has provided us terrific insight on Congressional and Senate elections in the past.  And he's virtually 'undefeated' in his prognostications.
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Re: Muslim Americans struggle with fallout from San Bernardino attack
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2015, 08:01:06 pm »
The only poster bringing shame on this forum Sink is you. Go re-read your postings. You have yet to post a single thoughtful, rational post. How you manged to achieve a perfect "no thought just bile" record as a poster is a forum wonder.

Pot-kettle-black.
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« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2015, 08:02:45 pm »
Let's stay on topic, m'kay?
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Re: Muslim Americans struggle with fallout from San Bernardino attack
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2015, 08:06:33 pm »
If there was religion whose adherents were regularly killing "non-believers" around the world, and whose leader was Warren Jeffs or Jim Jones or Sung Myun Moon or David Berg or David Koresh or Marshall Appelwhite, you would condemn them in the harshest terms (rightfully). 

Mohammed is many magnitudes of order worse than all these (and many more) combined.  Yet you whitewash the followers of Mohammed, I suspect because there are a billion worshippers of that murderous devil.

Congratulations.  You win the "Most Outrageous Strawman of the Day Award."
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Re: Muslim Americans struggle with fallout from San Bernardino attack
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2015, 08:07:57 pm »
He can't. Staying on topic requires the ability to think, not just emote. Rational thought is well outside Sinks capabilities.

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Re: Muslim Americans struggle with fallout from San Bernardino attack
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2015, 08:08:54 pm »
The only poster bringing shame on this forum Sink is you. Go re-read your postings. You have yet to post a single thoughtful, rational post. How you manged to achieve a perfect "no thought just bile" record as a poster is a forum wonder.

I'm backing up DC here.  That attack on sink is absolutely untrue.

Contrarian or no, sink adds knowledge to this forum, and even though I disagree with him frequently, I'm getting sick of the hyperbole used against him.

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Re: Muslim Americans struggle with fallout from San Bernardino attack
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2015, 08:09:07 pm »
Well, how about everyone else stay on topic, then, just for the fun of it?  ^-^
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