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Re: Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to "close up" the internet
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2015, 02:41:50 pm »
So, you are ok with the FCC regulating the communications industry dictating what we see and hear?
You are ok with control of pornography by the government?
You are ok with control of firearms and ammunition by the government?
You are ok with control of alcohol by the government?
You are ok with control of the environment by the government?
You are ok with control of drugs, legal and illegal?
You are ok with control of abortion by the government?
You are ok with controlling marriage by the government?

But we cannot secure the borders and control who has access to the country?
We cannot hinder terrorist communications by closing gaps in the internet?

Not very consistent are we?

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Re: Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to "close up" the internet
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2015, 04:27:29 pm »
So, you are ok with the FCC regulating the communications industry dictating what we see and hear?
You are ok with control of pornography by the government?
You are ok with control of firearms and ammunition by the government?
You are ok with control of alcohol by the government?
You are ok with control of the environment by the government?
You are ok with control of drugs, legal and illegal?
You are ok with control of abortion by the government?
You are ok with controlling marriage by the government?

But we cannot secure the borders and control who has access to the country?
We cannot hinder terrorist communications by closing gaps in the internet?

Not very consistent are we?

What "gaps" do you want to close?
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Re: Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to "close up" the internet
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2015, 04:51:08 pm »
What "gaps" do you want to close?

Well, first off, I am not an internet architecture expert so my thoughts will have to stay at the 10,000 ft level....

The reports I am hearing is that the terrorists are using the video games and the included chat capability to communicate and this somehow bypasses the usual "snooping" that we can do...

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Re: Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to "close up" the internet
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2015, 05:42:21 pm »
I'm not quite sure that I am following this.  Are you saying that Trump wants to ban U.S. citizens who are of Muslim descent from re-entering??  That is not my understanding.  My understanding is that he wants to ban Muslims from entering this country - not U.S. citizens.  That's the problem with thinking with the hyphenated-American mentality.  Latino-American, African-American, Irish-American, German-American, etc., etc.  Either you are an American citizen or you aren't.  IF Trump wants to prevent U.S. citizens who are of Muslim descent from re-entering the country; that is problematic.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/12/trump-calls-for-ban-on-all-muslims-from-entering-us-even-american-citizens/

Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski confirmed to the Associated Press that the intention was for the ban to apply to “everybody,” including both immigrants and tourists. The Hill asked Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks if this would include Muslim-American citizens who were currently abroad, Hicks replied by email: “Mr. Trump says ‘everyone.'”

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Re: Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to "close up" the internet
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2015, 05:54:40 pm »
Well, first off, I am not an internet architecture expert so my thoughts will have to stay at the 10,000 ft level....

The reports I am hearing is that the terrorists are using the video games and the included chat capability to communicate and this somehow bypasses the usual "snooping" that we can do...

And you want to shut those down for everybody? 

Every ISP would have to agree to this and I got news for Trump:  they won't.  Bill Gates is retired CEO of Microsoft and has nothing to do with the Internet.
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Re: Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to "close up" the internet
« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2015, 05:57:05 pm »
http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/12/trump-calls-for-ban-on-all-muslims-from-entering-us-even-american-citizens/

Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski confirmed to the Associated Press that the intention was for the ban to apply to “everybody,” including both immigrants and tourists. The Hill asked Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks if this would include Muslim-American citizens who were currently abroad, Hicks replied by email: “Mr. Trump says ‘everyone.'”


He's already backed off of that.  Exceptions to his "ban" are coming in by the hour.  He knows he stepped in it but, see, he got his result.  His fired-up followers never bother to notice that he later qualifies stuff like this. 

You know that Hillary will pin this kind of crap on the GOP as a whole and paint us all as a bunch of scary bigots.
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Re: Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to "close up" the internet
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2015, 05:59:52 pm »
And you want to shut those down for everybody? 

Every ISP would have to agree to this and I got news for Trump:  they won't.  Bill Gates is retired CEO of Microsoft and has nothing to do with the Internet.

It's very simple.  Trump will make a few phone calls and work out a deal.  It will be terrific.

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« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2015, 06:02:48 pm »
It's very simple.  Trump will make a few phone calls and work out a deal.  It will be terrific.

The Trumpster-Divers seem to have forgotten a very elementary principle:  Simple solutions are for simple people.
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Re: Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to "close up" the internet
« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2015, 06:09:34 pm »
...and Rubio's  being a member of the Gang of Eight, voting for Kerry as Secretary of State and  voting to block conservative amendments to the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act, he is no 'Conservative'.

Yawn.....
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Re: Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to "close up" the internet
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2015, 06:10:41 pm »
He's already backed off of that.  Exceptions to his "ban" are coming in by the hour.  He knows he stepped in it but, see, he got his result.  His fired-up followers never bother to notice that he later qualifies stuff like this. 

You know that Hillary will pin this kind of crap on the GOP as a whole and paint us all as a bunch of scary bigots.
Thanx for the info.  Some people might see this as a sign that Trump's spokespeople don't know what Trump's position is, anymore than Trump does...but I know it is part of his masterful plan.

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Re: Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to "close up" the internet
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2015, 06:14:54 pm »
He's already backed off of that.  Exceptions to his "ban" are coming in by the hour.  He knows he stepped in it but, see, he got his result.  His fired-up followers never bother to notice that he later qualifies stuff like this. 
What he got was nonstop media attention, which saves a lot on advertising.
I rarely listen to the Glenn Beck show, but his sidekicks Pat and Stu said something today that merits consideration: one thing that never comes into play when Trump says something or comes up with a "policy" is the Constitution.

The Democrats ignore the Constitution, certainly. Many now are saying it's irrelevant. Obama hates it.

But we do expect better of a so-called Republican.
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Re: Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to "close up" the internet
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2015, 06:17:38 pm »
What he got was nonstop media attention, which saves a lot on advertising.
I rarely listen to the Glenn Beck show, but his sidekicks Pat and Stu said something today that merits consideration: one thing that never comes into play when Trump says something or comes up with a "policy" is the Constitution.

The Democrats ignore the Constitution, certainly. Many now are saying it's irrelevant. Obama hates it.

But we do expect better of a so-called Republican.

It seems to me that Donald Trump does not respect the Constitution.
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Re: Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to "close up" the internet
« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2015, 07:05:13 pm »
Trump doesn't have to worry, the panel votes soon on these interwebs.  But of course they will keep sites like facebook and DU.


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Re: Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to "close up" the internet
« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2015, 01:07:33 am »
Why?

because he is nothing like a conservative

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Re: Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to "close up" the internet
« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2015, 01:09:33 am »
It seems to me that Donald Trump does not respect the Constitution.

No he doesn't.

Not one bit.

He is a big government statist. He thinks government exists to support and bailout favored big corporations while stomping on their competitors.