Russian Pilots Executed While Parachuting: Turkish Media

[HAPPY2BME]

Russian Pilots Executed While Parachuting: Turkish Media

If Putin was angry when Turkey shot down a Russian plane, which may or may not have crossed Turkish territory - reports on both sides are conflicting - he will be absolutely livid to learn that, according to Turkey's Dogan News, the Russian pilots who had parachuted in an attempt to save their lives after the plane was shot down, had been executed while parachuting down by local rebels, which considering the video released earlier belonged to the Free Syrian Army, are same "rebels" who are funded directly by the CIA.

    Both Russian pilots shot dead while parachuting down says Dogan News Agency citing Turkmen opposition commander

    — Fercan Yalinkilic (@FercanY) November 24, 2015

 

And this:

    DHA Muhabirinin görü?tü?ü Türkmen 2'nci Sahil Tümen Komutan Yard?mc?s? Alpaslan Çelik: Pilotlardan ikisini de para?ütle inerken vurduk

    — Damla Do?an (@dmladogan) November 24, 2015

As Telegraph points out, the above tweet is from CNN Turk's Foreign Editor who tweeted that the Turkmen rebels DHA spoke to said: "We hit at the two pilots after they parachuted."

This, as many have already pointed out, is a war crime.

The only question is whether this, together with the provocative action by Turkey which many can see being an act of war, will be deemed as such by Putin.

For those who missed it, here is the video uploaded by the Free Syrian Army of at least one dead parachuter.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVJ7Q097gXM

source: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-24/russian-pilots-executed-while-parachuting-turkish-media

[HAPPY2BME]

You have to 'sign in' @ YT to view these:

GRAPHIC: Russian Su-24 pilot surrounded by armed rebels, allegedly dead


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9UJcX_UVB0

Published on Nov 24, 2015

The video posted online shows armed men around an alleged Russian pilot who seems to be unconscious and immobile. His face is bruised and bloodied. The men seem to be happy and are praising Allah, with some regretting that they hadn’t burned him on the spot.

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[Scottftlc]

This is gasoline on a fire...Obama's fingerprints are here and someone is going to pay for this, I'm hoping not the personnel we have over there who must obey Obama's orders.

[flowers]

Turkish F-16s shoot down Russian fighter jet near Syria border

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/11/24/turkish-f-16-shoots-down-russian-fighter-jet-near-syria-border/?intcmp=hpbt1

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday that Turkey’s decision to shoot down a Russian warplane near Turkey's border with Syria is a "stab in the back" and it would have “significant consequences” for its relations with Turkey, as NATO called an emergency meeting over the incident.

Putin said the Russian Sukhoi-24 jet was shot by a missile from a Turkish jet over Syria about just over a half-mile away from the Turkish border, which he described as a "stab in the back by the terrorists' accomplices." Putin was meeting with Jordanian King Abdullah II in Sochi. Prior to the meeting, The New York Times said Putin was "speaking slowly and clearly angry."

Rebels said they fired at the two parachuting pilots as they descended, and that one had died. A rebel spokesman said they would consider releasing the body in exchange for prisoners held by Syria. The fate of the second pilot was not immediately known.

VIDEO: Raw footage of Russian jet being shot down

U.S. defense official told Fox News that radar tracks validate Turkey’s claims that the aircraft entered its airspace and refused to leave, despite repeated warnings. The official added that two Turkish F-16s fired heat-seeking air-to-air missiles at the Russian aircraft.
More on this...

    Turkish F-16s shoot down Russian jet near Syrian border
    Turkey shoots down Russian fighter jet near Syrian border

“This will get complicated,” the official said.

Tuesday's incident is the first time since the 1950s that a Russian or Soviet military aircraft has been publicly acknowledged to have been shot down by a NATO country, according to Reuters. Russia's main stock index dropped more than 2 percent after the incident, while Turkish stocks fell 1.3 percent amid fears of an escalation between the two countries.

Russia said the Su-24 was downed by artillery fire, but Turkey claimed that its F-16s fired on the Russian plane after it ignored the warnings.

    “This will get complicated”

    - U.S. defense official

Putin warned that the incident would have "significant consequences" for its relations with Turkey and criticized Ankara for turning to NATO to discuss the incident instead of first explaining to Russia what happened.

Reuters also reported that Syrian insurgents hit a Russian helicopter forcing it to make an emergency landing in the country's Latakia province.

[flowers]

Putin: Downing Of Jet A 'Stab In The Back'

http://news.sky.com/story/1593241/putin-downing-of-jet-a-stab-in-the-back

The shooting down of a Russian jet by Turkey is a "stab in the back" committed by "accomplices of terrorists", Vladimir Putin has said.

The Sukhoi Su-24 was warned 10 times before being downed near the Syrian border by two Turkish F16 jets for violating the country's airspace, according to the Turkish military.

:: Live Updates: Russian Jet Shot Down By Turkey

A Turkish official said two Russian planes approached the Turkish border and were warned before one of them was shot down, adding their information shows Turkish airspace was repeatedly violated.

Both of the pilots are dead, say Sky sources.

[GAJohnnie]

We need to start talking about what our exit strategy is going to be from Obama/Clinton's failed Syrian adventure.

[andy58-in-nh]

We need to start talking about what our exit strategy is going to be from Obama/Clinton's failed Syrian adventure.

I'm frankly more concerned that there will be no exit strategy from the brink of WWIII, which is exactly where Obama's preposterous foreign policy has led us.

[HAPPY2BME]

This is gasoline on a fire...Obama's fingerprints are here and someone is going to pay for this, I'm hoping not the personnel we have over there who must obey Obama's orders.

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Russia cannot afford a land, sea, and air war.  They simply can't fund it.  And as much as you hear about Russians being war mongers, the average Russian knows the combined forces of NATO land, sea, and air forces will eventually defeat them.  They are great historians and know the odds all too painfully.

That leaves one option, which is nuclear.

Pray to God that Putin doesn't get desperate.

[mystery-ak]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/russian-rescue-helicopter-shot-down-6891003


Russian rescue helicopter 'shot down by Syrian rebels' while searching for pilots of plane downed by Turkey

[mystery-ak]

[sinkspur]

Erdogan is a Muslim and his sympathies, no matter what he says, are with radical Islam.  This is why Turkey has no business being in  NATO.

[flowers]

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Russia cannot afford a land, sea, and air war.  They simply can't fund it.  And as much as you hear about Russians being war mongers, the average Russian knows the combined forces of NATO land, sea, and air forces will eventually defeat them.  They are great historians and know the odds all too painfully.

That leaves one option, which is nuclear.

Pray to God that Putin doesn't get desperate.

Which brings up the question....who is funding him? He has been to iran to get some of that 150b, yet that isn't much when it comes to war.

[Scottftlc]

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Russia cannot afford a land, sea, and air war.  They simply can't fund it.  And as much as you hear about Russians being war mongers, the average Russian knows the combined forces of NATO land, sea, and air forces will eventually defeat them.  They are great historians and know the odds all too painfully.

That leaves one option, which is nuclear.

Pray to God that Putin doesn't get desperate.

Yet NATO has already been fractured by Obama...France is with Russia, probably some others will be too or they will sit out a conflict between the U.S. and Russia.  Obama does not have Europe with him and he also has the Turkish problem.  Turkey is going strongly Islamist and Obama appears to cuddle right up with them.  Neither Russia nor Europe is happy about that.

Russia won't go nuclear over just this, but if it escalates we don't know where it will all land.

[HAPPY2BME]

Bam's new terror plan: BE AFRAID

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Third term?

[mystery-ak]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/24/pentagon-backs-turkeys-version-accuses-russian-fig/
Pentagon backs Turkey’s version of events, blames ‘incursion’ of Russian jet

[HAPPY2BME]

Yet NATO has already been fractured by Obama...France is with Russia, probably some others will be too or they will sit out a conflict between the U.S. and Russia.  Obama does not have Europe with him and he also has the Turkish problem.  Turkey is going strongly Islamist and Obama appears to cuddle right up with them.  Neither Russia nor Europe is happy about that.

Russia won't go nuclear over just this, but if it escalates we don't know where it will all land.

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USS Harry Truman aircraft carrier deploys to Mideast

[HAPPY2BME]

Which brings up the question....who is funding him? He has been to iran to get some of that 150b, yet that isn't much when it comes to war.

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Russia's only major revenue is #1 - Oil and gas exports and #2 - Weapons sales.

Other than that, Russia has no outside funding.  Its national annual income is small compared to other countries.  Essentially, it is broke.

Many wheels turning here behind the scenes to bring Putin out of the picture, IMO.

[Scottftlc]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/24/pentagon-backs-turkeys-version-accuses-russian-fig/
Pentagon backs Turkey’s version of events, blames ‘incursion’ of Russian jet

Of course they do - they have to - Obama is tight with Erdogan and Islamist Turkey.  What I find telling (though I understand not conclusive) is that it was Syrian rebels backed by Obama that shot down the rescue helicopter and it was Syrian Rebels, not Turkey, that got to the body of the pilot.  Where was Turkey if the fighter was indeed staying inside their territory?

[HAPPY2BME]

Of course they do - they have to - Obama is tight with Erdogan and Islamist Turkey.  What I find telling (though I understand not conclusive) is that it was Syrian rebels backed by Obama that shot down the rescue helicopter and it was Syrian Rebels, not Turkey, that got to the body of the pilot.  Where was Turkey if the fighter was indeed staying inside their territory?

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Good questions.

Pentagon is saying it all went down in 'seconds.'

Russian entry into Turkish airspace lasted 'seconds': U.S. official

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States believes Russia's incursion into Turkish airspace on Tuesday likely lasted only a matter of seconds before Turkey shot down a Russian warplane, a U.S. official said, saying the assessment was based on preliminary indications.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the United States was still investigating the incident.

http://www.trust.org/item/20151124163150-espfj

[HAPPY2BME]

Of course they do - they have to - Obama is tight with Erdogan and Islamist Turkey. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-av7eoLZEEs

[flowers]

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Good questions.

Pentagon is saying it all went down in 'seconds.'

Russian entry into Turkish airspace lasted 'seconds': U.S. official

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States believes Russia's incursion into Turkish airspace on Tuesday likely lasted only a matter of seconds before Turkey shot down a Russian warplane, a U.S. official said, saying the assessment was based on preliminary indications.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the United States was still investigating the incident.

http://www.trust.org/item/20151124163150-espfj

I thought i read they told them 10 times to get out of airspace.....now it is only seconds?

[HAPPY2BME]

I thought i read they told them 10 times to get out of airspace.....now it is only seconds?

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They are now claiming it went down in 'seconds.'

But the Turks had to have been tracking the Russian fighter a good distance before they shot it down.  It was completely unexpected by the Russians, and this would have been a completely different outcome had the Russians known the Turks were going to fire on them (which was a complete 'sucker punch' by the Turks.

[flowers]

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They are now claiming it went down in 'seconds.'

But the Turks had to have been tracking the Russian fighter a good distance before they shot it down.  It was completely unexpected by the Russians, and this would have been a completely different outcome had the Russians known the Turks were going to fire on them (which was a complete 'sucker punch' by the Turks.

So I guess the Turks don't like Assad?

[240B]

Some reports say the pilots were shot, other reports say they were beheaded, and still other reports claim that they are still alive.

Some reports say the Turks shot the plane down, other reports say it was done from the ground by American backed rebels.

We don't know anything right now, so I am disregarding the 'news' for now. They want a story and they will get one, even if they have to make it themselves.

Give it a day or two, and we will find out what really happened.

It would not surprise me at all to find out that Obama had the plane shot down to protect ISIS. We will know more soon. But at this time, we don't know what the truth is about this incident.

[DCPatriot]

Some reports say the pilots were shot, other reports say they were beheaded, and still other reports claim that they are still alive.

Some reports say the Turks shot the plane down, other reports say it was done from the ground by American backed rebels.

We don't know anything right now, so I am disregarding the 'news' for now. They want a story and they will get one, even if they have to make it themselves.

Give it a day or two, and we will find out what really happened.

It would not surprise me at all to find out that Obama had the plane shot down to protect ISIS. We will know more soon. But at this time, we don't know what the truth is about this incident.

And Obama today refused to speak about the incident during the press conference with the French President at the White House.

Not even a    "...the Russian pilots acted stupidly"?