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FBI expands probe of Clinton emails, launches independent classification review
Catherine Herridge

By Catherine Herridge, Pamela BrownePublished November 12, 2015

The FBI has expanded its probe of Hillary Clinton's emails, with agents exploring whether multiple statements violate a federal false statements statute, according to intelligence sources familiar with the ongoing case.

Fox News is told agents are looking at U.S. Code 18, Section 1001, which pertains to "materially false" statements given either in writing, orally or through a third party. Violations also include pressuring a third party to conspire in a cover-up. Each felony violation is subject to five years in prison.

This phase represents an expansion of the FBI probe, which is also exploring potential violations of an Espionage Act provision relating to "gross negligence" in the handling of national defense information.

"The agents involved are under a lot of pressure and are busting a--," an intelligence source, who was not authorized to speak on the record, told Fox News.

The section of the criminal code being explored is known as "statements or entries generally," and can be applied when an individual makes misleading or false statements causing federal agents to expend additional resources and time. In this case, legal experts as well as a former FBI agent said, Section 1001 could apply if Clinton, her aides or attorney were not forthcoming with FBI agents about her emails, classification and whether only non-government records were destroyed.

Fox News judicial analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano said the same section got Martha Stewart in trouble with the FBI. To be a violation, the statements do not need to be given under oath.

"This is a broad, brush statute that punishes individuals who are not direct and fulsome in their answers," former FBI agent Timothy Gill told Fox News. Gill is not connected to the email investigation, but spent 16 years as part of the bureau's national security branch, and worked the post 9/11 Anthrax case where considerable time was spent resolving discrepancies in Bruce Ivins' statements and his unusual work activities at Fort Detrick, Md. 

"It is a cover-all. The problem for a defendant is when their statements cause the bureau to expend more time, energy, resources to de-conflict their statements with the evidence," he said.

Separately, two U.S. government officials told Fox News that the FBI is doing its own classification review of the Clinton emails, effectively cutting out what has become a grinding process at the State Department. Under Secretary for Management, Patrick Kennedy has argued to both Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and Congress that the "Top Secret" emails on Clinton's server could have been pulled from unclassified sources including news reports.

"You want to go right to the source," Gill said. "Go to the originating not the collateral authority. Investigative protocol would demand that."

On Friday, Clapper spokesman Brian Hale confirmed that no change has been made to the two "Top Secrets" emails after a Politico report said the intelligence community was retreating from the finding.   

"ODNI has made no such determination and the review is ongoing," Hale said. Andrea G. Williams, spokeswoman for the intelligence community inspector general, said she had the same information. Kennedy is seeking an appeal, but no one can explain what statute or executive order would give Clapper that authority.

A U.S. government official who was not authorized to speak on the record said the FBI is identifying suspect emails, and then going directly to the agencies who originated them and therefore own the intelligence -- and who, under the regulations, have final say on the classification.

As Fox News previously reported, at least four classified Clinton emails had their markings changed to a category that shields the content from Congress and the public, in what State Department whistleblowers believed to be an effort to hide the true extent of classified information on the former secretary of state's server.

One State Department lawyer involved in the alleged re-categorization was Kate Duval. Duval once worked in the same law firm as Clinton's current and long-time lawyer David Kendall and at the IRS during the Lois Lerner email controversy. Duval left government service for private practice in mid-September.
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Drip Drip Drip!

What do you think the chances are that the dripping will lead to actual consequences for Hillary? 

Is there any hope that she will pay for what she's done?
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What do you think the chances are that the dripping will lead to actual consequences for Hillary? 

Is there any hope that she will pay for what she's done?

Zero to zero -.

None!  Unless it happens under the next administration and only then if Obama doesn't pardon her.
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Zero to zero -.

None!  Unless it happens under the next administration and only then if Obama doesn't pardon her.

Exactly.
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Zero to zero -.

None!  Unless it happens under the next administration and only then if Obama doesn't pardon her.

Yeah........... I agree.  I was just grasping for a strand of hope.......
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Yeah........... I agree.  I was just grasping for a strand of hope.......

The reality of the matter is if she were to be brought up on charges and suspend her campaign, that would leave Sanders unchallenged.  I haven't quite decided who would be worse; the socialist or the criminal?  Is is still unbelievable to me that those two are all the DEMS have and both represent an undeniable threat to our country.
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The reality of the matter is if she were to be brought up on charges and suspend her campaign, that would leave Sanders unchallenged.  I haven't quite decided who would be worse; the socialist or the criminal?  Is is still unbelievable to me that those two are all the DEMS have and both represent an undeniable threat to our country.

You mean a socialist and a socialist criminal................it's unbelievable how far down the Dem party has come from having leaders such as Hubert Humphrey and Walter Mondale.  I didn't agree with those guys' policies, but at least they believed in America....
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There is no chance of an indictment in her future, no matter how glaringly obvious her criminal conduct becomes.

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There is no chance of an indictment in her future, no matter how glaringly obvious her criminal conduct becomes.

Yep.  Lynch has no doubt already made that assurance, which is why Biden hightailed himself out of the running.  Hillary is their horse, for better or worse.  The only question is how much will the FBI be able to contain if their people make a recommendation to prosecute and Lynch bails.  We can hope that the details of the investigation get leaked, and the American people are at least exposed to how grossly negligent, incompetent and unethical the woman is (as if they don't know already).

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Yep.  Lynch has no doubt already made that assurance, which is why Biden hightailed himself out of the running.  Hillary is their horse, for better or worse.  The only question is how much will the FBI be able to contain if their people make a recommendation to prosecute and Lynch bails.  We can hope that the details of the investigation get leaked, and the American people are at least exposed to how grossly negligent, incompetent and unethical the woman is (as if they don't know already).

Rudy Giuliani, on Hannity last night, said he had confidence that Lynch would do the right thing because he had seen her be objective as a US attorney.  Is there ANY hope that Lynch will be her own person and defy Obama?
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If Comey's investigation turns up evidence of wrongdoing and Lynch doesn't indict, Hillary goes down in a landslide defeat.

I have no doubt details will leak out of the FBI and voters will have the last say.  ^-^

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Rudy Giuliani, on Hannity last night, said he had confidence that Lynch would do the right thing because he had seen her be objective as a US attorney.  Is there ANY hope that Lynch will be her own person and defy Obama?

I saw the same interview you did (don't normally watch Hannity) and trust Rudy's judgement but still have my doubts.
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I saw the same interview you did (don't normally watch Hannity) and trust Rudy's judgement but still have my doubts.

I don't usually watch Hannity either, but saw that Rudy was going to be on talking about Hillary and tuned in.

I'm torn too.  I'm completely skeptical, but there was just a glimmer of maybe??  maybe???

My hopes aren't up too high, but it would be nice to have REAL justice for once with a vile, corrupt Dem like Hillary.....
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I don't usually watch Hannity either, but saw that Rudy was going to be on talking about Hillary and tuned in.

I'm torn too.  I'm completely skeptical, but there was just a glimmer of maybe??  maybe???

My hopes aren't up too high, but it would be nice to have REAL justice for once with a vile, corrupt Dem like Hillary.....

Yes it would!  :patriot:
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Rudy Giuliani, on Hannity last night, said he had confidence that Lynch would do the right thing because he had seen her be objective as a US attorney.  Is there ANY hope that Lynch will be her own person and defy Obama?

I would be extremely surprised.  I think Biden bailing out of the race with OPapaDoc standing next to him was all the evidence we need that the fix is in.

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I would be extremely surprised.  I think Biden bailing out of the race with OPapaDoc standing next to him was all the evidence we need that the fix is in.

I think your observation is most likely accurate.

However, I remain a hopeless optimist, even in the midst of my despair, that something right will be done some time in this country....
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I would be extremely surprised.  I think Biden bailing out of the race with OPapaDoc standing next to him was all the evidence we need that the fix is in.
Yep......that day told me a couple of things. Hil has valjars approval and she is going to skate on the emails. It also said to me she will win. The fix is in.  8888crybaby


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Rudy Giuliani, on Hannity last night, said he had confidence that Lynch would do the right thing because he had seen her be objective as a US attorney.  Is there ANY hope that Lynch will be her own person and defy Obama?

No.  And Giuliani is making a big mistake by conflating the position of US Attorney with the Attorney General.  The latter is an thoroughly political, and politicized, position; the former is not.

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No.  And Giuliani is making a big mistake by conflating the position of US Attorney with the Attorney General.  The latter is an thoroughly political, and politicized, position; the former is not.

Excellent point, and key differentiation.  Lynch is owned by Obama.  And Obama is evil.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

"Sometimes I think the Church would be better off if we would call a moratorium on activity for about six weeks and just wait on God to see what He is waiting to do for us. That's what they did before Pentecost."   - A. W. Tozer

Use the time God is giving us to seek His will and feel His presence.