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There’s a feminist civil war brewing over Caitlyn Jenner
« on: October 27, 2015, 05:14:09 pm »
There’s a feminist civil war brewing over Caitlyn Jenner

By Carrie Lukas

October 26, 2015 | 8:13pm
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Caitlyn Jenner speaks at the Point Foundation's "Voices on Point" Gala in Los Angeles. Photo: Reuters

Feminist Stalwart versus Transgender Icon: It may sound like a warped new comic strip, but really it’s the first installment in what could be a series of very real conflicts between warring politically correct factions.

Germaine Greer, the 76-year-old author of “The Female Eunich,” is making waves by lambasting the idea that Caitlyn Jenner may be honored by Glamour Magazine as “Woman of the Year.” Jenner isn’t a woman, says Greer. He’s just attention-starved and seeking to steal the limelight from the women in the Kardashian family.

He hasn’t actually had to endure what feminists depict as the true horrors of womanhood, such as being cursed with what Greer delicately characterizes as a “big, hairy, smelly vagina.”

When told that such comments are hurtful to the transgender community, Greer doubled down. “Try being an old woman. For goodness sake, people get hurt all the time, I’m not about to walk on eggshells.”

Those who have long walked on eggshells trying not to offend Greer’s feminist sisters should feel free to laugh.

For decades, feminists have skillfully wielded their victimhood status as a weapon, drawing it and striking public figures who fail to follow their obscure, but strictly enforced, rules. Use the word “bossy,” “silly,” “hysterical,” “shrill,” mention that women bear children or fail to mention that women bear children and you might face the wrath of the PC feminist police.

Now their tactics are being turned on one of their own. Campus feminists seek to stomp out diversity; they’ve been leaders in harassing universities into rescinding speaking invitations given to those who don’t sufficiently toe the liberal line.

Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, the International Monetary Fund’s Christine Lagarde, activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali and the American Enterprise Institute’s Christina Hoff Summers are just a few who have been successfully disinvited from university gigs because they failed the campus’ political-correctness test.

Now Greer’s the target for these liberal censors, as Cardiff University is being petitioned to ax her upcoming lecture there, “Women & Power: The Lessons of the 20th Century.”

And feminists support the censorship. As Kaite Welsh wrote: “Isn’t it often the way? You fight your way from the trenches to the throne, overthrow the corrupt regime and set about remaking the world in your own image, only to realize that you have become the thing you most despised.”

Greer’s gone from “revolutionary to oppressor,” she said.

Unsurprisingly, Greer sees sexism at the root of the celebration of Caitlyn Jenner: “I think misogyny plays a really big part in all of this, that a man who goes to these lengths to become a woman will be a better woman than someone who is just born a woman.”

Greer is missing bigger drivers of the Caitlyn phenomenon. Our insatiable media must find new ground to break in tantalizing the public and normalizing what was once considered aberrant behavior. Cultivating a live-and-let-live attitude isn’t enough; alternative lifestyles must be celebrated as not only equal but superior to the boring, oppressive traditions that have dominated until now.

Yet Greer also uncovers an aspect of the transgendered phenomenon that feminists really ought to find disconcerting. It’s more than just a rival victim group, but one that threatens to expose feminists’ contradictions when it comes to sex differences.

Feminists typically deny that meaningful gender differences exist between men and women, while allowing that there are some areas in which women are superior to men. Women are better at consensus building, listening, languages . . . but don’t anyone dare imply that men may have an innate edge in any hard science. Ask former Harvard University President Larry Summers how that one turns out.

Surely Greer doesn’t actually care whom Glamour magazine honors as woman of the year. (Aren’t old-school feminists supposed to object to such beauty-obsessed rags anyway?)

Yet what happens when transgender women start competing against plain old women in other areas of life? Say, in tennis matches and swim meets?

Or how about for slots on corporate boards and in top universities looking to meet targets for gender balance? Feminists may find their cause stalled and themselves forced to acknowledge that biology plays a bigger role than they care to admit.

The Germaine Greer and Caitlyn Jenner brouhaha is surely, taken on its own, a tempest in a teapot.
But it’s the culmination of a PC culture that may be beginning to implode.

Carrie Lukas is the managing director of the Independent Women’s Foru

http://nypost.com/2015/10/26/theres-a-feminist-civil-war-brewing-over-caitlyn-jenner/
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Re: There’s a feminist civil war brewing over Caitlyn Jenner
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2015, 06:34:37 pm »
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Re: There’s a feminist civil war brewing over Caitlyn Jenner
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2015, 07:24:10 pm »
I had a professor in grad school whose favorite line was: "You create your own Hell"

I've many times marvelled over the years about the perfect simplicity of that thought.
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Re: There’s a feminist civil war brewing over Caitlyn Jenner
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2015, 08:45:32 pm »
Bruce Jenner is still a sexist, mentally ill male.............. no matter what he calls himself and pretends to be.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: There’s a feminist civil war brewing over Caitlyn Jenner
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2015, 08:54:50 pm »
"Greer’s gone from “revolutionary to oppressor,” she said."

No hysterical overstatement to be seen here. No, sirree.

Leftists have such a gift for silly.
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Re: There’s a feminist civil war brewing over Caitlyn Jenner
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2015, 09:28:06 pm »
He looks like a freak. I watched his tranny show. He had on some transgenders that looked good.


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Re: There’s a feminist civil war brewing over Caitlyn Jenner
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2015, 10:24:12 pm »
He was so smart to wait till he was 65 to "transition," though - none of the discomfort of menopause. Not even a hot flash!

Oh, wait, he wasn't going to have the discomfort of menopause anyway because HE'S A GUY!
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2015, 10:32:56 pm »
He was so smart to wait till he was 65 to "transition," though - none of the discomfort of menopause. Not even a hot flash!

Oh, wait, he wasn't going to have the discomfort of menopause anyway because HE'S A GUY!

he will never be female. DNA never gonna happen. Yet his decision   to not fix his johnson  to female makes him a cross dresser, transvestite.


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Re: There’s a feminist civil war brewing over Caitlyn Jenner
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2015, 11:31:26 pm »
he will never be female. DNA never gonna happen. Yet his decision   to not fix his johnson  to female makes him a cross dresser, transvestite.

So he's a half-way house fraud.  What a loser.

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Re: There’s a feminist civil war brewing over Caitlyn Jenner
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2015, 02:19:30 pm »
The crazy is strong in this one :silly:
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Re: There’s a feminist civil war brewing over Caitlyn Jenner
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2015, 01:18:54 pm »
November 04th 2015
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Have you noticed that men in frocks and women with whiskers are making the news all over the place? Well one thing you probably won't read in all the adulatory coverage of Caitlyn Jenner's "bravery" is that the US hospital which pioneered sex-change surgery now refuses to perform it.

Among the issues guaranteed to draw a volcanic eruption from the politically correct  is the  free and open discussion than transgenderism. Indeed, to talk these days about transgenderism other than lavish and unqualified praise for those who abandon the gender of their births is to invite the label of mean-minded bigot.

Caitlyn Jenner’s apotheosis from suffering patriarch of the Kardashian clan to the newly inaugurated Queen of the trans movement marks a fresh high-water mark for trans-mania. At the start of April this year, Caitlyn was a father, former Olympian and sordid reality TV star. Now, just over eight months later, Caitlyn has been crowned ‘Woman of the Year.’ Should you want to offer anything other than gushing adulation for Caitlyn’s putative heroism, expect to be exiled from polite society.

This is why it was so amusing when last week Germaine Greer, normally a stalwart of the left, bluntly confront the First Commandment of transgenderism: Thous shalt not deny that gender is ‘fluid.’

Here’s what she said:

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Just because you lop off your d— it doesn’t make you a woman… a man who get his d*** chopped off is actually inflicting an extraordinary act of violence on himself. I’ve asked my doctor to give me long ears and liver spots and I’m going to wear a brown coat, but that won’t turn me into a f***ing cocker spaniel.

Greer’s turn of phrase was perhaps gratuitously crass. But the media lynch mob now baying for her blood reveals just how narrow the bounds of reasonable discussion have become on all things trans. In achieving this iron grip on public opinion, the invention of the word ‘transphobia’ has been most useful. It is a convenient descriptor used to discredit anyone who expresses an alternative view to the trans-worship orthodoxy as an irrational bigot.

At this point you might be asking why there is any need to say anything critical about people who choose to change genders. After all, it’s their decision isn’t it? What good is achieved by sledging such a vulnerable group in the public square?

The hard truth is that the jury is still very much out on whether complex, expensive and radical medical procedures are the panacea for disillusionment with ones gender that trans-mania would have you believe. To start with, the suicide rate is just as high for people who have transitioned as it is for those yet to undergo treatment – a fact which of itself casts serious doubt over whether transitioning is really the ‘cure’ that it’s made out to be.

Moreover, hormone therapy is a publicly subsidized in Australia and prescribed to children wanting to avoid the puberty of their birth gender. And once a child has used hormones to forego puberty, going back the way you came isn’t all that easy. What’s more, a Monash Medical Centre Study has found that out of a cohort of children with gender identity disorder, the condition persisted into adolescence and adulthood in only 16% of cases. Children aren’t deemed to have the capacity to sign a contract, vote and, in many instances, commit crimes before the age of 18. So why should we deem them capable of changing their gender before they’re even teenagers?

And for those who think talking about these issues is nothing more than excuse for thinly veiled bigotry, it’s worth noting that these misgivings are widely shared amongst the medical profession. According to eminent former Psychiatrist in Chief at Johns Hopkins Hospital, Paul McHugh, the desire to change genders is a type of body dysmorphic disorder, which physical change will not cure. McHugh argues that wanting to switch genders is similar to that of anorexia or the desire to remove ones limbs, known as apotemnophilia, in the sense that they are all body-integrity identity disorders which produce a powerful urge to for radical physical transformation. McHugh’s colleagues agree. John Hopkins, which once did a booming sex-change business, now refuses to perform gender reassignment surgery.

To be sure, there is no shortage of scientific literature and sociological encyclicals on all things trans that directly rebut the views outlined here. The point however, is that there are good reasons to believe that changing gender is more complex than simply this heroic act of bravery it is popularly conceived to be. And when there are conflicting views on a difficult subject, offense and confected outrage are without doubt the worst reasons to silence those who challenge the status quo.
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