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GOP to elect Speaker next week; conservatives skeptical of Ryan
« on: October 21, 2015, 10:00:24 pm »
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/257567-gop-to-elect-speaker-next-week

By Scott Wong and Mike Lillis - 10/21/15 09:38 AM EDT

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) is getting a cool reception from House conservatives, whom he said must endorse him before he’ll agree to run for Speaker.

Leaders of the House Freedom Caucus and their conservative allies said Wednesday they’re turned off by the list of conditions Ryan said must be met before he launches a bid for the top post.

In addition to backing from three major GOP caucuses, Ryan wants assurances he could cut back on fundraising trips so he can spend more time with his family and promises that conservatives won’t try to oust him from power.

“It’s like interviewing a maid for a job and she says, ‘I don’t clean windows, I don’t do floors, I don’t do beds, these are the hours I’ll work.’ It’s rubbing a lot of people the wrong way,” Rep. Matt Salmon (R-Ariz.), a co-founder of the Freedom Caucus, told The Hill.

Ryan, the chairman of the powerful tax-writing Ways and Means Committee, is expected to meet Wednesday with both the Freedom Caucus and the 170-member Republican Study Committee (RSC). He’s also expected to meet with the centrist Tuesday Group at 10 a.m. Thursday.

Rep. John Fleming (R-La.), a Freedom Caucus member, said Ryan was asked during the RSC meeting about changing the rules for a motion to vacate the chair. That motion forces a referendum vote on the Speaker.

Ryan did not offer specifics, according to Fleming, but indicated he wouldn't do away with the motion entirely.

"He just said he would like to see the threshold changed," Fleming said.

Republicans will hold an internal election to nominate a new Speaker on Oct. 28, two days before Speaker John Boehner plans to resign from Congress, the Ohio Republican told GOP lawmakers in a closed-door meeting Wednesday. If the conference picks a nominee, a formal floor vote will take place Oct. 29.

Rep. Daniel Webster, who was the first GOP Speaker of the Florida state House, is the only other declared candidate for Speaker. Oversight Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) dropped out of the race and endorsed Ryan after he announced his bid Tuesday night.

But if Ryan’s demands aren’t met by Friday and he drops out, it could set up a free-for-all for the job and throw the 247-member GOP conference back into turmoil.

Asked if there's a Plan B if Ryan doesn't run, Boehner paused before replying: "Don't know." But he expressed confidence that Ryan could secure endorsements from each of the major GOP factions.

"He has a good relationship, I think, with all the wings of the party," Boehner told reporters Wednesday.

Winning an endorsement from the Freedom Caucus will be a high hurdle for Ryan. The bloc of roughly 40 conservative hard-liners already has thrown its support behind Webster. For the group to switch allegiances, Ryan will need to win backing from four-fifths of Freedom Caucus members, according to internal rules.

Yet, some Freedom members are keeping an open mind and are waiting to hear directly from Ryan on Wednesday afternoon.

Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R-Kansas), a vocal leadership critic who chairs the Tea Party Caucus, said one red flag is Ryan's warning he won't sacrifice time away from his young family for lengthy fundraising tours.

"I don't think the Speakership is a 9 to 5 job," said Huelskamp, a Freedom Caucus member.

"You've got to work on weekends. John Boehner worked very hard … and I'm very concerned if you're not going to work weekends in this job, which is primarily fundraising, then that could hurt the Republican majority."

Conservatives also don't want to lose any of their power to challenge the Speakership, Huelskamp warned — a shot at Ryan's call for rule changes that "ensure we don’t experience constant leadership challenges and crisis."

"I don't think we should change that," Huelskamp said, referring to the power of individual members to call a vote on vacating the Speakership. "And visiting with conservative members this morning, I think they generally agree."

After Wednesday's meeting, a number of conservatives who are not members of the Freedom Caucus signaled they would not back Ryan.

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) said he's still supporting Webster. Rep. Walter Jones (R-N.C.) said he's leaning strongly against supporting Ryan.

"It seems like to me that he apparently is the choice of John Boehner, [and] that's not what the people of America want." Asked if he can be convinced to come around to Ryan, Jones said, "I doubt it very seriously."

Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) said of Ryan's conditions: "I think that might have been a polite way of saying, 'I don't want the job.' "

Rep. Raúl Labrador (R-Idaho), another co-founder of the Freedom group, said it's possible that Ryan can lay out a vision that allows members to get behind him.

"It's fair to say that a number of people are open to him, yes, but it's with some reservations," Labrador said.

Labrador acknowledged that no member of the Freedom Caucus is a viable alternative to Ryan, but he insisted that was never the goal.

"This has never been about electing a member of the Freedom Caucus, we know we can't get one of our members elected. But I think it's pretty presumptuous to think that Paul Ryan is the only person who can win this." 

He mentioned Webster and Rep. Rob Bishop, the former speaker of the Utah state House, as good candidates.

— Cristina Marcos contributed. This story was last updated at 1:42 p.m.
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Re: GOP to elect Speaker next week; conservatives skeptical of Ryan
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2015, 10:01:09 pm »
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/257627-ryan-pushes-back-at-conservative-criticism

Ryan pushes back at conservative criticism

 By Scott Wong - 10/21/15 03:07 PM EDT

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) pushed back Wednesday on criticism from some conservative House colleagues who say he shouldn’t take the Speaker’s job if he isn’t willing to work weekends and sacrifice time with his young family.

“Hey look, I’m here four days a week as it is,” Ryan said Wednesday when asked by The Hill whether he was surprised by the blowback. “I’m not going to spend the other three days a week running around America.”
 
“I guess that’s just Washington for you,” he added as he left a meeting with the conservative Republican Study Committee.

Ryan, the Ways and Means Committee chairman, wants a number of conditions met before he agrees to run for Speaker. One is that the leadership post would not cut into time with his wife and three school-age children, meaning he’d forgo some fundraising trips around the country.

But several conservatives scoffed at that request, arguing that he shouldn’t run if he’s not fully committed to the job.

“More people would apply for the position if they thought it didn’t include weekends,” Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) told The Hill.

Added Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R-Kansas), chairman of the Tea Party Caucus: "I don't think the Speakership is a 9 to 5 job.”

"You've got to work on weekends,” Huelskamp added. “John Boehner worked very hard … and I'm very concerned if you're not going to work weekends in this job, which is primarily fundraising, then that could hurt the Republican majority."
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Re: GOP to elect Speaker next week; conservatives skeptical of Ryan
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2015, 10:50:12 pm »
In Ryan's shoes I'd do exactly the same.

It's not like he needs the job - in a lot of ways the Committee he chairs has more clout than the Speaker, and becoming Speaker would be the kiss of death for any further aspirations he may have.

So, the Liberty Caucus has a choice now - do they go with Ryan and at least get their feet under the table, or do they howl outside again? I'm betting on howl outside again, myself. There aren't enough of them to force the issue, but will they admit it?
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Re: GOP to elect Speaker next week; conservatives skeptical of Ryan
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2015, 11:34:01 pm »
Ryan's not gonna take it because bottom-feeders like Tim Huelskamp is a consistent "NO, NO, NO" on everything.

These right-wing nuts are going to force Ryan to step aside, and Boehner, in return, will pass a continuing resolution and raise the debt limit, with Democrat help.

  Ryan's got the job he wants.  He doesn't need the aggravation of a bunch of hair-on-fire naysayers who really aren't FOR anything.

They just want to trash anybody who is.
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Re: GOP to elect Speaker next week; conservatives skeptical of Ryan
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2015, 11:37:47 pm »
"You've got to work on weekends,” Huelskamp added. “John Boehner worked very hard … and I'm very concerned if you're not going to work weekends in this job, which is primarily fundraising, then that could hurt the Republican majority."

LOL!  Yeah. Boehner worked hard but you wanted him gone anyway.  YOU don't run the House, cornpone. You are hell-bent to force a situation where Democrats help pick the House speaker.

You want this so you can bitch and bellyache MORE and LOUDER.  Which is all you friggin' do.
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