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Trump's GOP Critics Pushing for a Party-backed Takedown
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Trump's GOP Critics Pushing for a Party-backed Takedown
Wednesday, October 21, 2015 08:38 AM

By: By STEVE PEOPLES

Don't expect Democrats to take down Donald Trump. If the GOP's baffled establishment wants to dismiss their party's billionaire presidential front-runner, it appears they'll have to do it themselves.

Quietly pleased the brash real estate mogul and reality TV star has become the face of the modern-day GOP, Democrats who specialize in opposition research are holding their fire. Some leading Republicans, meanwhile, have grown increasingly concerned by Trump's staying power, leading to fresh calls for an organized takedown campaign to protect the party's image heading into 2016.

"At some point, the things he says go from being 'crazy old Donald Trump' to defining — this is how Republicans think and feel. And that's dangerous," said Katie Packer, who served as 2012 Republican nominee Mitt Romney's deputy campaign manager.

Packer says there is "some rumbling" about a well-funded anti-Trump campaign and offered a wake-up call to Republicans who assume Trump's candidacy will ultimately collapse. "Folks have to remember that lead changes don't just happen," she said. "Something causes them to happen."

Trump represents exactly the kind of party standard-bearer Republican officials wanted to avoid after a disastrous 2012 election in which minority voters — Hispanics in particular — overwhelmingly abandoned the GOP.

The Republican National Committee concluded in a postelection study the party must adopt a more welcoming and inclusive tone on immigration. Yet Trump's candidacy is built upon his disdain for immigrants who are living in the country illegally, whom he has repeatedly referred to as dangerous criminals who must be deported en masse.

Democrats couldn't be happier.

They're collecting reams of negative information about Trump's business background. Leading groups such as the Democratic-allied research firm American Bridge have dispatched staff to New York, New Jersey and Delaware in recent weeks to examine Trump-related bankruptcy cases, Security and Exchange Commission filings and the many lawsuits to which the litigious Trump has been a part.

But they're not planning to release any of it anytime soon. They want Trump around as long as possible.

"The longer Donald Trump is high-fiving Jeb Bush and forcing (Sens.) John McCain and Rob Portman to say they'd back him in a general election, the more he's making clear the Republican Party's priorities, and how out of touch they are with American values and middle-class families," said American Bridge spokesman Ben Ray.

Instead of attacking Trump, the Democratic National Committee is trying to paint the rest of the GOP field with his brush. The party has released a series of Web videos casting Trump's positions as representative of his competitors, including one in which Trump is shown high-fiving Bush, the former Florida governor.

"Trump may be running for president, but his ideas are running the party," says one DNC video entitled the "Retrumplican Party."

Republican officials have been careful not to attack Trump publicly for fear he may leave the party and launch an independent candidacy — despite winning from him a pledge not to do so. But there was evidence of Republican concern during a recent private gathering of top donors to the Republican National Committee at Washington's Mayflower Hotel.

Republican pollster Frank Luntz, whom Trump has criticized personally, asked a group of roughly 100 donors to raise their hands to indicate support for various candidates. Just one person did so for Trump, which prompted moans across the room, according to two people inside who spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to discuss the private gathering.

Luntz then showed a series of video clips of Trump, including the reality television star's criticism of women and past support for Democrats. Many donors believed they were watching a rough cut of prospective anti-Trump ads, according to the people in the room.

"They were very engaged in the idea that somebody has to do something, or Donald Trump will destroy the party," said one of the people who attended the meeting of the donors and was in the room.

Luntz told The Associated Press that he regularly uses video clips during presentations and did not suggest to the gathering the material would be used against Trump.

"They may look at the video and say, 'Aha, there's something there,'" Luntz said of the donors, explaining that he intended only to highlight the key talking points of the 2016 election.

Meanwhile, as the Republican establishment crosses its fingers that Trump fails, the real estate mogul is attacking the party's other 2016 prospects one by one. Trump has engaged in a particularly aggressive war of words with Bush, once considered the party's front-runner.

Most of the campaigns of his rivals fear that any efforts to confront Trump directly could backfire and energize his anti-establishment supporters. Even Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker didn't use Trump's name when exiting the race and calling on the party to rally against his potential ascendance to the GOP nomination.

Bush allies have gone further than most, with one recently describing Trump as a zombie candidate — suggesting that, with no realistic path to the presidency, he's already dead politically but doesn't know it.

Republican strategist Stuart Stevens countered that zombies on television don't die on their own: "Never saw one commit suicide," Stevens tweeted. "Takes killing."

 
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Re: Trump's GOP Critics Pushing for a Party-backed Takedown
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2015, 01:37:17 pm »

"Some leading Republicans, meanwhile, have grown increasingly concerned by Trump's staying power, leading to fresh calls for an organized takedown campaign to protect the party's image heading into 2016."

Protect the party's image!  :silly:  ...as what? The kinder, gentler statist party? "Vote for us! We drive over the cliff at a slower rate than democrats!"

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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2015, 01:48:10 pm »
"Some leading Republicans, meanwhile, have grown increasingly concerned by Trump's staying power, leading to fresh calls for an organized takedown campaign to protect the party's image heading into 2016."

Protect the party's image!  :silly:  ...as what? The kinder, gentler statist party? "Vote for us! We drive over the cliff at a slower rate than democrats!"

Talk about disconnected. I really can't imagine a political party with a worse image. My oldest son is 32, he says no one in his circle of friends would openly admit to voting Republican. To them, voting Republican is like admitting that you're a Nazi. My son is in tech, and doing very well. His friends are prosperous, this is not a bunch of basement dwellers talking politics between video game rounds.

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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2015, 01:51:23 pm »
The harder they want to take Trump down, the harder I want him to succeed.

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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2015, 02:07:41 pm »
"Some leading Republicans, meanwhile, have grown increasingly concerned by Trump's staying power, leading to fresh calls for an organized takedown campaign to protect the party's image heading into 2016."

Protect the party's image!  :silly:  ...as what? The kinder, gentler statist party? "Vote for us! We drive over the cliff at a slower rate than democrats!"

They seriously live in a bubble. 

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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2015, 02:42:41 pm »
The harder they want to take Trump down, the harder I want him to succeed.

And the STRONGER he gets because NO ONE owns him. They were suppose to take him out months ago? By now the race was suppose to be over and were to believe that BUSHIE is a conservative??? I guess TRUMP did not get the MEMO?? :patriot:

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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2015, 03:35:35 pm »
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Trump represents exactly the kind of party standard-bearer Republican officials wanted to avoid after a disastrous 2012 election in which minority voters — Hispanics in particular — overwhelmingly abandoned the GOP.

What?  Hispanics in particular?   I thought the general concensus was that CONSERVATIVE voters didn't vote.  Maybe I've been sleeping, but I don't remember a discussion of a mass exodus of hispanics.  In fact, the GOP has been working hard to court them, which says that whomever they're having to court wasn't in our camp to start with.

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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2015, 04:37:52 pm »
A primary reason Trump is so popular is that the donor class does NOT LIKE HIM. 

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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2015, 07:29:02 pm »
If they are STUPID enough to try this [and yes, they are that stupid], they can kiss their collective elephant asses goodbye for this election. And a whole bunch more...
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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2015, 12:51:06 am »
If they are STUPID enough to try this [and yes, they are that stupid], they can kiss their collective elephant asses goodbye for this election. And a whole bunch more...

The GOPe is besides themselves.  Trump was supposed to fade out long ago and their "golden boy" Jeb was supposed to all but walk away with the nomination by now. Jeb was supposed to be so far in the lead that no one would be able to catch him.  They need Jeb so that they can carry on with the corruption that is so prevalent in Washington.  Trump and Carson can't be bought or controlled and Cruz isn't about to budge on his stance against the 'Washington Cartel".  They can try to bring Trump down, but he has had a significant lead for months.

I will have no problem pulling that lever from Trump if need be.  The more the RINO's try to bring him down, the better I like him.
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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2015, 01:31:10 am »
A primary reason Trump is so popular is that the donor class does NOT LIKE HIM.

Trump is popular for the same reason Huey Long was popular, George Wallace was popular, Ross Perot was popular:  Here, finally (say their followers) is a sumbitch who's going to Washington and will kick everybody's asses.

Except nobody goes to Washington and kicks anybody's butt.  Our system doesn't work that way. And Donald Trump would have the LEAST Congressional support of any Republican president in our history.

Which means he would not get most of what he wants passed, and he'd get impeached at the drop of a hat.

Name one endorsement he's gotten from the people who have to pass his crap.
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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2015, 01:50:26 am »
Trump is popular for the same reason Huey Long was popular, George Wallace was popular, Ross Perot was popular:  Here, finally (say their followers) is a sumbitch who's going to Washington and will kick everybody's asses.

Except nobody goes to Washington and kicks anybody's butt.  Our system doesn't work that way. And Donald Trump would have the LEAST Congressional support of any Republican president in our history.

Which means he would not get most of what he wants passed, and he'd get impeached at the drop of a hat.

Name one endorsement he's gotten from the people who have to pass his crap.

"Our system doesn't work that way".  Unfortunately "that way" in today's world is full of corruption where GOP leadership sides time and time again with the left and the liberal agenda instead of working on behalf of conservatism and conservative principles.  Either the corruption is curtailed in Washington or we not only lose the Republican party but we will lose this country. We can't afford to lose another election nor can we survive on our current path of destruction.

I'm not so sure where you come up with the "fact" that Trump would have the least Congressional support.  I see it quite the opposite way.  If Trump is elected president as an "Outsider" he would certainly shake Washington up, obviously voter support would be huge AGAINST the establishment and voters would again  vote against the establishment candidates in Congress.  As for impeachment ... what "high crimes and misdemeanors", "unlawful activity", or "treasonous acts" do you think he has committed?  In addition, I would lay you odds that he is going to have one heck of a presidential cabinet.



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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2015, 02:22:13 am »
"Some leading Republicans, meanwhile, have grown increasingly concerned by Trump's staying power, leading to fresh calls for an organized takedown campaign to protect the party's image heading into 2016."

Had a thought about Trump and the Republican party today.
Just a thought -- don't mean nuthin'.

There was all the talk about Trump jumping ship and running as a third party candidate.

But he can't do that...
...Because this year, the GOPe Republican establishment -IS- "the third party".

According to some poll numbers I saw today (aside: we all know how reliable they are), Trump pulled 32% support amongst Republican voters and Republican-leaning independents. Next was Ben Carson with 22%, and Carly Fiorina was in there around 10%.

That's just shy of 2/3 of the voters in our camp who embrace the "outsider" candidates and totally reject "the party's" candidates. I sense the overall percentage may actually INCREASE in the coming months.

Again, if there is a "third party" this year, it's .... the Republican "establishment" candidate.

They are gettin' tossed out on their behinds!

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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2015, 02:35:28 am »
Nothing like the sight of a bunch of so-called conservative republicans pushing a dyed-in-the-wool democrat/liberal to the front of the GOP pack.

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« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2015, 03:20:25 am »
Nothing like the sight of a bunch of so-called conservative republicans pushing a dyed-in-the-wool democrat/liberal to the front of the GOP pack.

Yes indeed.  It's RINO hunting season.   :patriot:
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« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2015, 03:27:23 am »
Nothing like the sight of a bunch of so-called conservative republicans pushing a dyed-in-the-wool democrat/liberal to the front of the GOP pack.

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« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2015, 03:41:27 am »
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Why that is downright pragmatic isn't it??
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« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2015, 03:44:11 am »
Trump is popular for the same reason Huey Long was popular, George Wallace was popular, Ross Perot was popular:  Here, finally (say their followers) is a sumbitch who's going to Washington and will kick everybody's asses.

Except nobody goes to Washington and kicks anybody's butt.  Our system doesn't work that way. And Donald Trump would have the LEAST Congressional support of any Republican president in our history.

Which means he would not get most of what he wants passed, and he'd get impeached at the drop of a hat.

Name one endorsement he's gotten from the people who have to pass his crap.

Name ONE....just give me ONE name of any current candidate that can take on Hillary Clinton and whip her a$$ in a campaign or debate.  You can't.  All the rest are amateurs and/or have already been mortally wounded by the media complex.

His in your face style....his cunning...he's not going into a debate with her without a plan.

Excuse the pun but he will 'trump' anything she uses to attack him or any promise/guarantee that comes out of her pie hole.  He abhors political correctness.  It will work to his advantage.

Truth is, he cannot be stopped, so long as he's breathing on Election Day.  That scares the hell out of me...but that's another thread.

It's true that I predicted a landslide win for Romney, despite his being a limp wristed moron for listening to his handlers.

I get that you don't like him.  But, it's like you're on LSD for chrissakes.   Your eyes are opened, but your feelings for Donald Trump the man outweigh your usually pragmatic POV.

THE OBJECT IS TO KEEP HILLARY OUT OF THE OVAL OFFICE.

Of course Trump will have from time to time, an adversarial House and Senate.  Good!  Because we know he's a rogue outsider.

But he's laser focused on reviving our economy and bringing jobs....er, HOPE AND CHANGE to America.

Keep your eye on the prize my friend.  Put your personal feelings aside and  go with it. 

We all know the Feds will raise interest rates in 2017, so that the GOP will get the blame for a major economic downturn.  So he may only get one term as it is.

But if we're all going down...I'm getting in Trump's foxhole.

Because if Hillary wins, our country...our Republic is lost.
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« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2015, 03:50:09 am »

Except nobody goes to Washington and kicks anybody's butt.  Our system doesn't work that way. And Donald Trump would have the LEAST Congressional support of any Republican president in our history.

Which means he would not get most of what he wants passed, and he'd get impeached at the drop of a hat.

Name one endorsement he's gotten from the people who have to pass his crap.

Obama came to Washington and kicked everyone's ass.  He's turned the Republicans into whimpering wimps and the nation into his own personal plaything. He doesn't need anyone to pass his crap, he simply deems it so and everyone applauds - and his supposed opposition cowers in fear.  And no one dares impeach him, no matter WHAT he does.

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« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2015, 03:55:59 am »
Obama came to Washington and kicked everyone's ass.  He's turned the Republicans into whimpering wimps and the nation into his own personal plaything. He doesn't need anyone to pass his crap, he simply deems it so and everyone applauds - and his supposed opposition cowers in fear.  And no one dares impeach him, no matter WHAT he does.

The government of checks and balances that you are thinking of DOES NOT exist any longer. It is an artifact of the past.

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« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2015, 03:59:22 am »
Name ONE....just give me ONE name of any current candidate that can take on Hillary Clinton and whip her a$$ in a campaign or debate.  You can't.  All the rest are amateurs and/or have already been mortally wounded by the media complex.

His in your face style....his cunning...he's not going into a debate with her without a plan.

Excuse the pun but he will 'trump' anything she uses to attack him or any promise/guarantee that comes out of her pie hole.  He abhors political correctness.  It will work to his advantage.

Truth is, he cannot be stopped, so long as he's breathing on Election Day.  That scares the hell out of me...but that's another thread.

It's true that I predicted a landslide win for Romney, despite his being a limp wristed moron for listening to his handlers.

I get that you don't like him.  But, it's like you're on LSD for chrissakes.   Your eyes are opened, but your feelings for Donald Trump the man outweigh your usually pragmatic POV.

THE OBJECT IS TO KEEP HILLARY OUT OF THE OVAL OFFICE.

Of course Trump will have from time to time, an adversarial House and Senate.  Good!  Because we know he's a rogue outsider.

But he's laser focused on reviving our economy and bringing jobs....er, HOPE AND CHANGE to America.

Keep your eye on the prize my friend.  Put your personal feelings aside and  go with it. 

We all know the Feds will raise interest rates in 2017, so that the GOP will get the blame for a major economic downturn.  So he may only get one term as it is.

But if we're all going down...I'm getting in Trump's foxhole.

Because if Hillary wins, our country...our Republic is lost.

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« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2015, 04:14:33 am »
Name ONE....just give me ONE name of any current candidate that can take on Hillary Clinton and whip her a$$ in a campaign or debate.  You can't.  All the rest are amateurs and/or have already been mortally wounded by the media complex.

His in your face style....his cunning...he's not going into a debate with her without a plan.

Excuse the pun but he will 'trump' anything she uses to attack him or any promise/guarantee that comes out of her pie hole.  He abhors political correctness.  It will work to his advantage.

Truth is, he cannot be stopped, so long as he's breathing on Election Day.  That scares the hell out of me...but that's another thread.

It's true that I predicted a landslide win for Romney, despite his being a limp wristed moron for listening to his handlers.

I get that you don't like him.  But, it's like you're on LSD for chrissakes.   Your eyes are opened, but your feelings for Donald Trump the man outweigh your usually pragmatic POV.

THE OBJECT IS TO KEEP HILLARY OUT OF THE OVAL OFFICE.

Of course Trump will have from time to time, an adversarial House and Senate.  Good!  Because we know he's a rogue outsider.

But he's laser focused on reviving our economy and bringing jobs....er, HOPE AND CHANGE to America.

Keep your eye on the prize my friend.  Put your personal feelings aside and  go with it. 

We all know the Feds will raise interest rates in 2017, so that the GOP will get the blame for a major economic downturn.  So he may only get one term as it is.

But if we're all going down...I'm getting in Trump's foxhole.

Because if Hillary wins, our country...our Republic is lost.

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« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2015, 04:40:52 am »
Gotta love the GOPe. When their guy is winning, it's sit down, shut up, and vote as you're told. When their guy is not winning, it's plot, scheme and undermine at every turn.

I am to the point of either wresting control from these buffoons or letting it burn. If Trump is that guy then I'll vote for Trump. We cannot give Hillary an easy victory by letting them ramrod old Jebby down our throats.
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