Obama Goes Beyond Mere Gun Control, Hints at Confiscation

[mystery-ak]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/03/obama-goes-beyond-mere-gun-control-hints-confiscation/

by AWR Hawkins3 Oct 2015

When President Obama spoke in reaction to the heinous October 1 attack on Umpqua Community College, he went beyond his usual calls for more gun control and suggested instead that America consider following the path blazed by Australia and Great Britain.

In the mid-1990s Australia and Great Britain both instituted what were virtually complete bans on firearm possession.

Obama referenced the bans thus:

    We know that other countries, in response to one mass shooting, have been able to craft laws that almost eliminate mass shootings.  Friends of ours, allies of ours — Great Britain, Australia, countries like ours.  So we know there are ways to prevent it.

And Obama is not the only one who suggested taking a gun-free approach to American life. The anti-Second Amendment message was also pushed by Slate, Vox, and Dan Savage.

For example, on October 1 Slate ran a story reminding readers that Australia enacted their gun ban in response to an attack on April 28, 1996, wherein a gunman “opened fire on tourists in a seaside resort in Port Arthur, Tasmania.” Thirty-five were killed and 23 others wounded in the attack. Twelve days later Australia’s government banned guns, period.

On October 2 Vox explained that Australia “confiscated 650,000 guns” via a “mandatory gun buyback” program which forced gun owners to hand their firearms over for destruction. Vox claims the result was that “murders and suicides plummeted’ and suggested such a path might be an option for America following “the murder of at least 10 people at Umpqua Community College.”

Vox did not mention that “firearm-related murder and non-negligent homicide” began plummeting in America in the mid-1990s as well. But in America, the decrease in violent crime did not correlate with a gun ban but with a rapid expansion in the number of guns privately owned. The Congressional Research Service reported that the number of privately owned firearms in America went from 192 million in 1994 to 310 million privately owned firearms in 2009. Subsequently, the “firearm-related murder and non-negligent homicide” rate fell from 6.6 per 100,000 in 1993 to 3.6 per 100,000 in 2000 and finally to 3.2 per 100,000 in 2011.

But none of this made any difference to Dan Savage, who responded to the attack on Umpqua Community College by calling for the Second Amendment’s repeal. Savage tweeted, “F**k the NRA, f**k the gun nuts, f**k the Second Amendment — better yet, repeal the Second Amendment.

[EC]

FFS. Guns are NOT banned here. I get sick of hearing that.

Hand gun licences are difficult to get. Shotgun and long gun, though?

http://content.met.police.uk/Site/firearmslicensingshotgunapplications

Not exactly an onerous process. Nor is it particularly slow as far as UK bureaucracy goes - you wait longer than that for your replacement drivers licence.

[alicewonders]

Obama's little angry speech after the shooting was filled with outright lies and no one dared question him.  He's got an agenda and he's going to implement it, just mark my words. 

[sinkspur]

Obama's little angry speech after the shooting was filled with outright lies and no one dared question him.  He's got an agenda and he's going to implement it, just mark my words.

No he's not going to implement it.  Gun control is going nowhere.  Obama can talk about it all he wants but you'll notice that only he and Pelosi are saying anything.  Even the Democrats don't want this to become an issue next year.

[Free Vulcan]

The angry little man may want it, but no one's going to implement it, and it can't be done by executive order.

[ABX]

FFS. Guns are NOT banned here. I get sick of hearing that.

It is probably just subjective comparison. Even in places where they are 'banned' like Chicago, one can still get a permit to have one, they are just almost impossible to get to the point only the elites have them. For an old, poor, African American grandmother in the bad side of Chicago who wants a handgun to protect her from the drug dealers who moved in next door, ownership is pretty much a crime as she can't jump through the legal loopholes the elite and connected can.

Where I am however, I can drive less than five minutes and buy pretty much what I want short of a Class III, unlicensed, just with a short background check (actually, due to my CHL, that is even expedited). That's what most of 'flyover' country is used to so highly restrictive licensing requirements are tantamount to banning for us. There is either liberty, or there isn't.

[ABX]

Obama's little angry speech after the shooting was filled with outright lies and no one dared question him.  He's got an agenda and he's going to implement it, just mark my words.

Notice how quick the media took his order to post comparison graphs of the number of people killed by terrorism versus firearms all over their reports. They started popping up within an hour (all using the same, highly questionable numbers as they accounted for accidental deaths, suicide, and even people who were killed attacking someone else (ie the gun was used for defense)).

[ABX]

No he's not going to implement it.  Gun control is going nowhere.  Obama can talk about it all he wants but you'll notice that only he and Pelosi are saying anything.  Even the Democrats don't want this to become an issue next year.

With over 60 Million plus gun-owning households in the US, it is political suicide to do more than talk, however, the President doesn't have another campaign to run but he does have a legacy he wants to build.

[DCPatriot]

Obama's little angry speech after the shooting was filled with outright lies and no one dared question him.  He's got an agenda and he's going to implement it, just mark my words.

...but we're the conspiracy nuts with tinfoil on our heads.     

[alicewonders]

Notice how quick the media took his order to post comparison graphs of the number of people killed by terrorism versus firearms all over their reports. They started popping up within an hour (all using the same, highly questionable numbers as they accounted for accidental deaths, suicide, and even people who were killed attacking someone else (ie the gun was used for defense)).

I did notice that!  After he ordered them to do that, he said it would then be coming from them and "not from me".  I can't stand that priggish little pr*ck!

[famousdayandyear]

Calling DEVGRU.  Red courtesy phone, please.

[PzLdr]

Moln Labe, motherf*cker!. And come and get them your little nancy self!

[DCPatriot]

Moln Labe, motherf*cker!. And come and get them your little nancy self!

      

[rangerrebew]

BREAKING: Obama Calls for Gun CONFISCATION
Sela TSunday, October 4, 2015
 
When President Obama spoke in reaction to the heinous October 1 attack on Umpqua Community College, he went beyond his usual calls for more gun control and suggested instead that America consider following the path blazed by Australia and Great Britain. He wants to take our guns away, without a second thought about it taking our God given right away….our God given freedom to protect ourselves. Who does he think he is?

    In the mid-1990s Australia and Great Britain both instituted what were virtually complete bans on firearm possession.

    Obama referenced the bans thus:

    We know that other countries, in response to one mass shooting, have been able to craft laws that almost eliminate mass shootings. Friends of ours, allies of ours — Great Britain, Australia, countries like ours. So we know there are ways to prevent it.

    And Obama is not the only one who suggested taking a gun-free approach to American life. The anti-Second Amendment message was also pushed by Slate, Vox, and Dan Savage.

    For example, on October 1 Slate ran a story reminding readers that Australia enacted their gun ban in response to an attack on April 28, 1996, wherein a gunman “opened fire on tourists in a seaside resort in Port Arthur, Tasmania.” Thirty-five were killed and 23 others wounded in the attack. Twelve days later Australia’s government banned guns, period.

    On October 2 Vox explained that Australia “confiscated 650,000 guns” via a “mandatory gun buyback” program which forced gun owners to hand their firearms over for destruction. Vox claims the result was that “murders and suicides plummeted’ and suggested such a path might be an option for America following “the murder of at least 10 people at Umpqua Community College.”

    Vox did not mention that “firearm-related murder and non-negligent homicide” began plummeting in America in the mid-1990s as well. But in America, the decrease in violent crime did not correlate with a gun ban but with a rapid expansion in the number of guns privately owned. The Congressional Research Service reported that the number of privately owned firearms in America went from 192 million in 1994 to 310 million privately owned firearms in 2009. Subsequently, the “firearm-related murder and non-negligent homicide” rate fell from 6.6 per 100,000 in 1993 to 3.6 per 100,000 in 2000 and finally to 3.2 per 100,000 in 2011.

    But none of this made any difference to Dan Savage, who responded to the attack on Umpqua Community College by calling for the Second Amendment’s repeal. Savage tweeted, “F**k the NRA, f**k the gun nuts, f**k the Second Amendment — better yet, repeal the Second Amendment.

There is an interesting movie about when only Police and Government have guns….it’s called… Shindler’s List.

Read more at http://patriotupdate.com/breaking-obama-calls-for-gun-confiscation/

[rangerrebew]

BOOM: Allen West Destroys Gun-Grabber Obama in 1 Question…”If Oregon Is About Gun Control, Then Explain…”

Americans were stunned on Thursday when a gunman opened fire on the campus of the Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon, killing nine and wounding at least seven others.

Americans were just as shocked when, just hours later and before hardly any of the facts had been revealed, President Barack Obama addressed the nation to rant against gun rights and the Second Amendment, calling for more useless gun control.

But former Florida congressman and retired Army Lt. Col. Allen B. West took exception to Obama’s “gun safety” rant, and, noting that a good leader waits for all of the facts before making proclamations, suggested he should be more concerned with “human safety.”

Referencing the concerns of a college professor friend in Pittsburgh who is compelled to go to work everyday in a gun-free zone, West pointed out how these zones do little more than disarm law-abiding citizens and give criminals a distinct advantage over their potential victims.

West also dismissed Obama’s claimed passion about “gun safety,” asking “if this is about new gun safety laws, then Mr. President, explain to us the immense gun violence in your hometown of Chicago,” or in Washington, D.C., or Baltimore, all of which have strict gun control laws.

He wondered why Obama consistently remains silent about the constant shootings in his hometown and decried the fallacious comparison Obama routinely makes between gun violence deaths and those caused by terrorism.

West went on to declare that had Obama spoke about Americans using their natural, God-given, Second Amendment-protected right to keep and bear arms to protect themselves and their loved ones, Americans would have rallied to his side in droves.

Instead, Obama chose to denigrate law-abiding citizens and speak about further infringing upon their rights, all the while completely ignoring the evil individual who actually pulled the trigger and took the lives of those innocent students and teachers.

http://conservativetribune.com/allen-west-oregon-gun-control/

[Longiron]

He wants to confiscate the guns of the law biding citizens because of the few nuts. So we should deport and stop all Muslims from the US immediately because of a radical Muslims? Sounds fair ? Both take lives.  :

[aligncare]

Just a few seconds Googling shows mass killings in Australia and England did not end with gun bans.

In China, mass killings in schools are carried out with knives, hatches, cleavers etc and can be just as deadly.

The deadliest mass murder to take place at a school in United States history was committed by arson - 44 killed, 58 injured in Bath Township Michigan.

Obama's a rabid ideological megalomaniac. Fear him, not mass murder.

[libertybele]

I for one will NOT surrender my rights under the 2nd Amendment period.  Without the 2nd Amendment we will have NO rights. It has been proven time and time again that disarming the public increases crimes.  With this administration allowing everybody and their brother through our open borders and the plan to allow over 200,000 terrorists into this country, to give up our weapons would be a death sentence for Americans.  Barry refers to Great Britain - what a crock of b.s.  Crime in Great Britain has increased dramatically since they become disarmed. 

 -- Remember that Barry also made a "small arms treaty" (and who knows what else) with the U.N. 

--  Remember, the chants from radical Muslims; "Death to America". 

Why in the heck would anyone want to surrender the RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS?

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/28-12-2012/123335-americans_guns-0/

https://www.facebook.com/MichaelSavageFanPage/videos/10151203469973285/

http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2012/07/english-warning-to-americans-dont-give-up-your-guns-2433544.html

[andy58-in-nh]

Just a few seconds Googling shows mass killings in Australia and England did not end with gun bans.

In China, mass killings in schools are carried out with knives, hatches, cleavers etc and can be just as deadly.

The deadliest mass murder to take place at a school in United States history was committed by arson - 44 killed, 58 injured in Bath Township Michigan.

Obama's a rabid ideological megalomaniac. Fear him, not mass murder.

Of the three largest firearms mass murders in history, two took place in Germany and one in Norway. The rate of such crimes per capita is not any different, statistically speaking, in the U.S. vs. the rest of the world, even though the rate of firearms ownership is higher in the U.S. than in most of the rest of the world because, well, we're still freer than most of the rest of the world.

And that is what Obama and his Progressive Democrats want to change.

There is not a single gun control law in place at the time or even imaginable that would have prevented the latest shooting.

If people who propose such restrictions want to talk about working to help better identify and treat those suffering from mental illness, that is entirely another matter, and could indeed be helpful in avoiding tragedies like the one that occurred at Umpqua Community College.

But gun control laws only ever affect the law-abiding, not criminals or crazies who always ignore them.

[Bigun]

The day they start trying to confiscate guns in America is the beginning of the first REAL civil war!

[aligncare]

Right on! andy!

More guns 🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫.

Less crime crime 🚓🚓🚓.

Simple as that.

[andy58-in-nh]

The day they start trying to confiscate guns in America is the beginning of the first REAL civil war!

Progressives will have to overturn the 2nd Amendment first. And the only way they can do that is to make a large segment of the American people so fearful and helpless that they'll voluntarily agree to be disarmed. After all, as someone once said, "a crisis is a terrible thing to waste"... even more so if you've created it for a purpose.

[DCPatriot]

Got myself all intimidated to give an opinion. 

Soon as I do, somebody posts that the link is not trustworthy or that my tin-foil hat is too tight.   

[libertybele]

    Absolutely without a shred of doubt!  We have absolutely NOTHING to gain by surrendering our 2nd Amendments rights and EVERYTHING to lose.  Remember; contrary to what some have been taught or believe,  a majority, NOT a minority of colonists supported the fight against Great Britain...

"If FREEDOM is what we want, it is ours for the taking.  Let the REVOLUTION begin".

   --- Dr. Ron Paul

[ABX]

Progressives will have to overturn the 2nd Amendment first. And the only way they can do that is to make a large segment of the American people so fearful and helpless that they'll voluntarily agree to be disarmed. After all, as someone once said, "a crisis is a terrible thing to waste"... even more so if you've created it for a purpose.

They'll do it like they did gay marriage and now are doing transgender rights. It will become a pop culture meme with bullies and victims. You are either a bully, a victim, or you stand for one of the two. No one wants to be a bully or be considered standing for a bully. Everyone roots for the under dog and the victim to triumph in the end. They have a pattern they found has been working. I suspect we'll start to see this come up in a lot of pop culture. Teen shows where someone accidentally gets shot so all the kids talk about how bad guns are. Sitcoms where the dad wants to buy a gun and all the family talks him out of it because they are scared of it. Crime dramas around mass shootings focusing on if the killer didn't have a gun, he could have turned his life around. Hollywood speeches. Music videos. The works.