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The US believes Russia has launched its first airstrikes in Syria just hours after the country’s Parliament approved Vladimir Putin’s request for military intervention.

No further information was given but activists in Homs and Hama provinces have posted images and video online claiming to show Russian planes bombing groups of non-Isis rebels who are fighting Bashar al-Assad’s forces.

The death toll could not be verified but dozens of fatalities were reported, including civilians, and footage showed injured children being treated in Talbiseh, a Free Syrian Army (FSA) stronghold.

An audio recording was also published by Qasion News, claiming to show communication between Russian pilots flying over Syria.

As the footage spread on social media, American officials told journalists they believed Russia had started carrying out airstrikes near Homs.

An anonymous US official told Reuters that Moscow gave Washington a one-hour notice of its operations but could give no further details.

Read more (speculation): http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/russia-launches-first-airstrikes-in-syria-us-says-as-non-isis-rebels-claim-they-are-being-targeted-a6673621.html
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This will be interesting to watch. 

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The official said airstrikes targeted fighters in the vicinity of Homs, located roughly 60 miles east of a Russian naval facility in Tartus, and were carried out by a "couple" of Russian bombers. It was not clear if the strikes targeted ISIS, Al Qaeda or other forces opposed to Assad, who Moscow is aiding.  According to a Twitter handle belonging to the Syrian government, the Russian strikes were initiated at the request of Assad.

The development came after Pentagon officials brushed aside an official request from Russia to clear air space over northern Syria, where Moscow intends to conduct airstrikes against ISIS on behalf of Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad, according to sources who spoke to Fox News.

The request was made by a Russian three-star general who spoke with U.S. officials at the American embassy in Baghdad, sources said. The general, who was not identified, used the word "please" when delivering the verbal request, known as a "demarche," according to the written transcript of the exchange.

"If you have forces in the area we request they leave," the general said.

A senior Pentagon official said the U.S., which has also been conducting air strikes against ISIS, but does not support Assad, said the request was not honored.
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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/09/30/boots-on-ground-russian-lawmakers-back-putin-sending-troops-to-syria/?intcmp=hpbt1

Russia launches airstrikes in northern Syria, senior military official says

By Jennifer Griffin and Lucas TomlinsonPublished September 30, 2015

Russian warplanes began bombarding Syrian opposition targets in the war-torn nation's north Wednesday, following a terse meeting at which a Russian general asked Pentagon officials to clear out of Syrian air space and was rebuffed, Fox News has learned.

A U.S. official said Russian airstrikes targeted fighters in the vicinity of Homs, located roughly 60 miles east of a Russian naval facility in Tartus, and were carried out by a "couple" of Russian bombers. The strikes hit targets in Homs and Hama, but there is no presence of ISIS in those areas, a senior U.S. defense official said. These planes are hitting areas where Free Syrian Army and other anti-Assad groups are located, the official said.

The development came after Pentagon officials, in a development first reported by Fox News, brushed aside an official request, or "demarche," from Russia to clear air space over northern Syria, where Moscow said it intended to conduct airstrikes against ISIS on behalf of Assad, according to sources who spoke to Fox News. The request was made in a heated discussion between a Russian three-star general and U.S. officials at the American Embassy in Baghdad, sources said.

"If you have forces in the area we request they leave," said the general, who used the word "please" in the contentious encounter.

A senior Pentagon official said the U.S., which also has been conducting airstrikes against ISIS, but does not support Assad, said the request was not honored.

"We still conducted our normal strike operations in Syria today," the official said. "We did not and have not changed our operations."

The move by Moscow marks a major escalation in ongoing tensions between the two countries over military action in the war-torn country and comes moments after Russian lawmakers formally approved a request from the country's president, Vladimir Putin, to authorize the use of troops in Syria. Putin said previously that Russia would strike ISIS targets.

The Federation Council, the upper house of Russia's parliament, discussed Putin's request for the authorization behind the closed doors. Sergei Ivanov, chief of Putin's administration, said in televised remarks that the parliament voted unanimously to approve the request.

Ivanov said the authorization is necessary "not in order to achieve some foreign policy goals" but "in order to defend Russia's national interests."

Putin is obligated to request parliamentary approval for any use of Russian troops abroad, according to the Russian Constitution. The last time he did so was before Russia annexed Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula in March 2014.

Putin's request comes after his bilateral meeting with President Barack Obama on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly meeting in New York, where the two were discussing Russia's recent military buildup in Syria.

A U.S. official told Fox News Monday the two leaders agreed to discuss political transition in Syria but were at odds over the role that Assad should play in resolving the civil conflict. The official said Obama reiterated to Putin that he does not believe there is a path to stability in Syria with Assad in power. Putin has said the world needs to support Assad because his military has the best chance to defeat ISIS militants.

Putin said the meeting, which lasted slightly more than 90 minutes, was “very constructive, business-like and frank".

“We are thinking about it, and we don’t exclude anything,” Putin told reporters at the time

The Kremlin reported that Putin hosted a meeting of the Russian security council at his residence Tuesday night outside of Moscow, saying that they were discussing terrorism and extremism.

On Tuesday, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius called on Russia to make a real contribution to the fight against ISIS, telling reporters at the United Nations that Moscow "is against the terrorists, it's not abnormal to launch strikes against them."

"The international community has hit (ISIS). France has hit (ISIS), Bashar al-Assad very little, and the Russians not at all. So one has to look at who does what," Fabius added.

Russia has been a staunch supporter of Assad during Syria's bloody civil war, and multiple reports have previously indicated that Russian troops are aiding Assad's forces. Israel's defense minister also said earlier this month that Russian troops are in Syria to help Assad fight the ISIS terror group.

On Wednesday, Reuters reported that Russia's Foreign Ministry told the news agency Interfax that a recently established operations center in Baghdad would help coordinate airstrikes and ground troops in Syria. Fox News first reported last week that the center had been set up by Russian, Syrian and Iranian military commanders with the goal of working with Iranian-backed Shia militias fighting ISIS.

Over the weekend, the Iraqi government announced that it would begin sharing "security and intelligence" information with Russia, Syria and Iran to help combat ISIS.

Meanwhile, intelligence sources told Fox News Friday that Iranian Quds Force commander Qasem Soleimani met with Russian military commanders in Baghdad September 22. Fox News reported earlier this month that Soleimani met Putin in Moscow over the summer to discuss a joint military plan in Syria.

"The Russians are no longer advising, but co-leading the war in Syria," one intelligence official said at the time.
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I think what the Russians get the Americans don't?  Sometimes you need alliances with people with questionable morals.
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I think what the Russians get the Americans don't?  Sometimes you need alliances with people with questionable morals.

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I think what the Russians are saying is that they know that we are assisting the rebels and if we don't want our forces destroyed, they should leave now.

WWIII is heating up...


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I simply do not understand why we are so adamant in our insistence that Assad must go.  Why are we, in essence, backing ISIS.  (I ask this question of Obama AND McCain).  We should be assisting Russia (and France) rid the region of ISIS mutants.  Instead, Russia asks us to stand down.

Has the world truly turned inside out? 

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I simply do not understand why we are so adamant in our insistence that Assad must go.  Why are we, in essence, backing ISIS.  (I ask this question of Obama AND McCain).  We should be assisting Russia (and France) rid the region of ISIS mutants.  Instead, Russia asks us to stand down.

Has the world truly turned inside out?

You don't see ISIS attacking Israel, now do you...


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You don't see ISIS attacking Israel, now do you...

I'm not quite sure what you mean--but you may be raising a very interesting point.  Can you clarify?

Thanks.

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I'm not quite sure what you mean--but you may be raising a very interesting point.  Can you clarify?

Thanks.

The U.S. created ISIS, that is known.  ISIS only attacks other moslem countries, that is also known.

I'm not smart enough to figure it out after that...   

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The U.S. created ISIS, that is known.  ISIS only attacks other moslem countries, that is also known.

I'm not smart enough to figure it out after that...

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So can anyone explain the precise difference between an ISIS Islamic Radical and a Non-ISIS Islamic Radical?  Is there a different interpretation of the Koran involved?  Or is it merely a different a paycheck from a different source?
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The U.S. created ISIS, that is known.  ISIS only attacks other moslem countries, that is also known.

I'm not smart enough to figure it out after that...

You are watching far too much MSM. ISIS goes back a long time. We may have fertilized them with the support of the Arab Spring and bailing out of Iraq before a strong regional security force was in play, but we did not create them. Their root is the Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party that goes back to the late 40s. They have had a long goal of creating a single, unified Arab state (the United Arab Republic).