BREAKING: Shooting during live TV report in Virginia; reporter and cameraman dead

[GourmetDan]

No. If I believe in something, I fight for it. But, I can't get on this hoax bandwagon because I don't believe it.

I think what you did was to reveal just how much the 'normalcy bias' affects your opinions.  You and your social group don't believe that gov't and media would conspire to produce a fake on-air shooting to advance the gun-control agenda, so you don't believe it when it happens.   

Think about it.  Nobody really gets killed, participants get well paid for their efforts, a concept they all believe in (gun-control) gets advanced in society and everybody feels all warm and fuzzy.  No harm, no foul.

[EdinVA]

It was the theme song of an old show (Harrigan and Sons?), but I remember it better from the movie "Yankee Doodle Dandy" with James Cagney playing George M. Cohan. (It was a Cohan song.......... and I can sing every word!)  I also have the sheet music for it.

I love songs from the late 19th and early 20th centuries.   I'm kinda weird that way.  ^-^

20th century... plz don't say it that way... makes my knees hurt.. :)

[musiclady]

I remember now. The show was called Harrigan. H-A-double R-I---G-A-N-spells Harrigan, was the theme song.

Just checked it out.  It was Harrigan and Son about a father and son lawyer team, and Pat O'Brien played the father.

I'm pretty sure I watched the show, but it actually was on the air more than 50 years ago, so it's a faded memory.  ^-^

[DCPatriot]

I think what you did was to reveal just how much the 'normalcy bias' affects your opinions.  You and your social group don't believe that gov't and media would conspire to produce a fake on-air shooting to advance the gun-control agenda, so you don't believe it when it happens.   

Think about it.  Nobody really gets killed, participants get well paid for their efforts, a concept they all believe in (gun-control) gets advanced in society and everybody feels all warm and fuzzy.  No harm, no foul.

Reminds me of 'Doubting Thomas'...who Jesus asked to come and put his hands into his wounds.

If you saw the bodies, would you change your mind?  Or, in your opinion, would they be wax figures?   

[GourmetDan]

Reminds me of 'Doubting Thomas'...who Jesus asked to come and put his hands into his wounds.

If you saw the bodies, would you change your mind?  Or, in your opinion, would they be wax figures?   

Reminds me of Jim Jones followers who drank the Kool-Aid because they were told that's what they should do.

You seriously don't think that your gov't and media would fake an on-air shooting where nobody actually gets hurt to advance the gun-control agenda.

Recognizing that they absolutely would do that shouldn't be difficult...

[musiclady]

Reminds me of 'Doubting Thomas'...who Jesus asked to come and put his hands into his wounds.

If you saw the bodies, would you change your mind?  Or, in your opinion, would they be wax figures?   

I have a feeling that Dan could even go to an open casket funeral viewing and still think it was a one-world-government hoax with the 'victims' being given a drug to make them look dead.......   

[aligncare]

I don't buy into ancient aliens, either.

But, how to explain Bernie Sanders, then?

[musiclady]

I don't buy into ancient aliens, either.

But, how to explain Bernie Sanders, then?

It was his recording of "This Land is Your Land" that catapulted him to fame....     

Have you heard it?  It's splendid! 

[aligncare]

A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. - Sir Winston Churchill

[bkepley]

A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. - Sir Winston Churchill

Churchill would know.  He was pretty notorious for getting fixated on something.  Never conspiracies though.

[GourmetDan]

I don't buy into ancient aliens, either.

Your gov't has a huge incentive to stage something like this.  They definitely want to disarm Americans and eliminate the 2A.

You didn't even see the reporter fall down.  She ran off after allegedly taking 3 hollow-points in the chest at point-blank range.

Father and fiance immediately give an interview promoting gun-control and a website.  White Hut immediately agrees.

BBC crew is ordered by police to delete video because it might be 'evidence'.

Ask yourself why you need to believe that this 'shooting' is true.  Because it was 'live' and on TV?

[andy58-in-nh]

I don't buy into ancient aliens, either.

But, how to explain Bernie Sanders, then?

Socialists in Space.
 
Boldly going where no person of indeterminate sexual preference has gone before.

[GourmetDan]

I don't buy into ancient aliens, either.

But, how to explain Bernie Sanders, then?

Socialists in Space.
 
Boldly going where no person of indeterminate sexual preference has gone before.

At last we get to the two best arguments against this being a staged event...

[aligncare]

At last we get to the two best arguments against this being a staged event...

Dan, I'm trying to be polite here. I respectfully decline to entertain the notion that this was a staged event.

[GourmetDan]

Dan, I'm trying to be polite here. I respectfully decline to entertain the notion that this was a staged event.

Yes, I know you do.

You refuse to consider that your gov't and media might stage an event designed to encourage further erosion of your constitutional right to defend yourself.

You apparently have no other reason for doing so other than it was on T.V. and you trust the media...

[EC]

Here. You've run out.

[musiclady]

Dan, I'm trying to be polite here. I respectfully decline to entertain the notion that this was a staged event.

ac............ it might be helpful for you to know that Dan thinks the British lost our Revolutionary War because of a one world government order.

He's not going to be dissuaded from this hoax thing, no matter what is said to refute it.

[musiclady]

And he's going to continue to attack you for disagreeing with him......

[GourmetDan]

Here. You've run out.

Ah, here's another one who trusts the gov't and media to always tell him the truth because it has trained him to believe everything he sees on T.V.

Makes excuses to support the official narrative even though he never saw any blood or anyone even fall down.

Swallows the entire story without realizing just how much he 'believes' happened that he didn't actually see happen because it was 'live T.V.'.

Ridicules anyone who points these things out to him...

[alicewonders]

I'm certainly up for conspiracy theories - but, like the Sandy Hook theory - I just don't think they could get away with something like this for very long.  To pull it off, it would have to have been put together long ago - to establish these "actors" in long-held jobs, schoolmates, neighbors, family, etc.  Especially in a place like a small town outside of Roanoke, Va.  People know everybody in these places - you can't just come in with a new cast of characters and act like they've been around for awhile.

Now, if you ask me if I think a person that is being counseled and/or medicated by a mental health professional with an agenda - if they would be capable of planting a seed of violence in a disturbed person's psyche for the purpose of instigating a violent event which could be used to sound the battle cry against guns - or to stir up racial hate.........

I've been open to that theory for a long time.

[andy58-in-nh]

Yes, I know you do.

You refuse to consider that your gov't and media might stage an event designed to encourage further erosion of your constitutional right to defend yourself.

You apparently have no other reason for doing so other than it was on T.V. and you trust the media...

Conspiracies fail - always - because of math, as much as due to essential human nature. For each proposed plan, the number of people who would need to be involved, permanently purchased, and perfectly coopted far exceeds the marginal propensity for any one of them to talk about it, or be caught in a lie and found out.
 
And as time goes on, that number increases, as evidence inadvertantly leaks out and also, as human nature militates against keeping any secret for very long.
 
Besides, in this case you only have to see the parents of the murdered girl to know that they are not faking anything. 

[aligncare]

I like Dan. We agree on a couple of issues. But, I can't go where he insists I go. I'll do a great big mia culpa should I be proven wrong ... but, I'm not going there!

[GourmetDan]

I like Dan. We agree on a couple of issues. But, I can't go where he insists I go. I'll do a great big mia culpa should I be proven wrong ... but, I'm not going there!

I'm not insisting that you go anywhere.

Lots of things that really happened have never been proven.

If you want to believe that your gov't and media tell you the truth about alleged events that benefit them while eroding your constitutional rights because of what they told you you saw (not what you actually saw) on T.V., you are certainly free to do that.

[GourmetDan]

Besides, in this case you only have to see the parents of the murdered girl to know that they are not faking anything.

Her father has been pimping gun-control since the day this happened.  How convenient.

He's also an actor having appeared on Broadway from '79 to '85.  Andy Parker

Better hurry before he edits his LinkedIn profile...

[musiclady]

I like Dan. We agree on a couple of issues. But, I can't go where he insists I go. I'll do a great big mia culpa should I be proven wrong ... but, I'm not going there!

He's not 'insisting' you go there, but he's basically calling you stupid and gullible if you don't.

No way to win this, or break even.  He's a true believer in whatever group he belongs to.....