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Dow Plunges 500 Points on Global-Slowdown Fears
« on: August 21, 2015, 03:49:32 pm »
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/21/us-markets-global-growth.html


S&P below 2K, Dow falls more than 325 points as growth concerns weigh
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U.S. stocks plunged on Friday, extending a recent rout, as concerns about slowing global growth continued to pressure investor sentiment. ( Tweet This )

"Right now there is a feeling of fear in the marketplace and all news is interpreted negatively and it's interpreted indiscriminately," said Tom Digenan, head of U.S. equities as UBS Global Asset Management.

The major averages accelerated selling in late morning trade to fall more than 1.5 percent. Earlier, the averages briefly attempted to halve losses in mid-morning trade.

"I think uncertainty about China (and) general negativity is weighing on the market. There's a lack of positive economic news to motivate buyers," said David Kelly, chief global strategist at JPMorgan Funds. He noted "there's nothing particularly negative in the U.S. economic outlook."

The Russell 2000 traded in correction territory. The S&P 500 fell through support levels to below 2,000, off more than 2.5 percent for the year so far. All 10 sectors of the index declined.

"It's more of the same," said Peter Boockvar, chief market analyst at The Lindsey Group. "From a technical perspective we broke" 2,040 on the S&P 500, the lower end of the trading range.

The Dow Jones industrial average fell more than 300 points. The Nasdaq Composite lost more than 2 percent, with Apple declining more than 3 percent and the iShares Nasdaq Biotechnology ETF (IBB) off about 2 percent.

Peter Cardillo, chief market economist at Rockwell Global Capital, noted some volatility due to options expirations.

"At one point or another you're going to see some bottom fishing," he said. "Again, the trend for now is lower."


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Re: S&P below 2K, Dow falls more than 325 points as growth concerns weigh
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2015, 03:53:53 pm »
Nowhere near the bottom yet!
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Re: S&P below 2K, Dow falls more than 325 points as growth concerns weigh
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2015, 06:42:45 pm »
Will team obama let the market crash before of after he leaves office? 


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Dow Plunges 500 Points on Global-Slowdown Fears
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2015, 09:10:48 pm »
http://www.newsmax.com/Finance/StreetTalk/Financial-Markets-stocks-dow-industrials-correction/2015/08/21/id/671272/

Friday, 21 Aug 2015 04:40 PM

Turbulence in financial markets gathered momentum amid intensifying concern over slowing global growth, pushing the Dow Jones Industrial Average into a correction and giving other stock gauges their worse losses since 2011.

More than $3.3 trillion has been erased from the value of global equities after China’s decision to devalue its currency spurred a wave of selling across emerging markets. The worries over slower economic growth come as a strong dollar and plunge in oil prices take a toll on corporate earnings at the same time the Federal Reserve is contemplating the first boost to interest rates since 2006.

“For much of this year, the glass was considered half full and now people the last 48 hours are thinking it’s looking more empty,” George Hashbarger, who oversees $224 million as chief executive officer and portfolio manager at Knoxville, Tennessee-based Quintium Advisors LLC, said by phone. “This is more like October than it is buy-the-dip.”

Volatility surged as Standard & Poor’s 500 Index capped the worst week in three years while Europe entered a correction and stocks from Hong Kong to Indonesia tumbled into bear markets. Junk bond yields rose to the highest since October 2012 and U.S. Treasurys had the largest weekly gain in five months. Oil sank below $40 a barrel for the first time since 2009 and was set for its longest losing streak since 1986.

The S&P 500 dropped 3.2 percent, the most since November 2011, to below 2,000. The index is down more than 7 percent from a record after sinking below a trading range that has supported it for most of the year. The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell more than 500 points, as is down 10 percent from its record high in May.

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Investors are selling the biggest winners of 2015. Companies that have come to be known as the Fab Five — Netflix Inc., Facebook Inc., Amazon.com Inc., Google Inc. and Apple Inc. — have seen $97 billion in market value erased over two days. Losses have pushed the Nasdaq 100 Index down 7 percent, the biggest two-day decline since 2008. Apple entered a bear market, dropping 20 percent from a February high.

Before this week, U.S. equities had held their ground throughout 2015. The S&P 500 had stayed within a range roughly tracking its 50-, 100- and 200-day moving averages, boosted by signs the economy is recovering and support from central banks. The benchmark index hadn’t had a decline of more than 5 percent all year.

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The selloff “simply means that all areas of the market are in gear now, and unfortunately it’s on the downside,” Bruce Bittles, chief investment strategist at Milwaukee-based Robert W. Baird & Co., which oversees $110 billion, said in an interview on Bloomberg Television’s “Market Makers” with Cory Johnson and Olivia Sterns. “Investors have to be much more careful now with that technical development.”

The week’s retreat from the riskiest assets picked up speed as data showing a gauge of China manufacturing at the lowest level in more than six years highlighted the challenges facing the nation’s economy.

The MSCI All-Country World Index tumbled 2.6 percent to the lowest since October. The MSCI Emerging Markets Index slid 2.3 percent, with the Malaysian ringgit and South Korean won leading currencies lower. Investors have sought safety in the yen, which strengthened for a third day against the dollar.

“This week’s selloff started from the yuan’s devaluation, which generated speculation about the true state of China’s economy,” Hertta Alava, who helps oversee the equivalent of $395 million as the head of emerging markets at FIM Asset Management Ltd. in Helsinki, said by e-mail. “China’s PMI was weak, so it is just adding fuel to this negativity.”

Hong Kong’s Hang Seng Index dropped 1.3 percent, taking declines since an April high beyond 20 percent. The Shanghai Composite Index slumped 4.3 percent, bringing the week’s loss to more than 10 percent and coming within one point of erasing all gains since the government began efforts to prop up the market in July.

“The whole world’s looking a little bit sad,” said Mark Lister, head of private wealth research at Craigs Investment Partners Ltd. in Wellington, which manages about $7.2 billion. “China still looks really worrying on a number of fronts.”

Europe Correction

The Stoxx Europe 600 Index lost 3.3 percent, as the selloff engulfed all western European markets and industries in the benchmark gauge. The index had its worst weekly loss since 2011, down 6.5 percent. It is down 13 percent from an April high, entering a correction.

Trading patterns show the declines are poised to slow. The 14-day relative strength index on the MSCI All-Country World Index closed below 30 on Thursday, a level that signals an asset is poised to rebound, according to some technical analysts.

Amid the selloff, the S&P 500 is trading at 17.5 times earnings. That’s down from 18.9 times a month ago, which was near a five-year high, though still exceeds the five-year historical average of 16.1 times profit.

U.S. Treasurys are poised for their biggest weekly gain in five months as demand for fixed income soared. Ten-year notes also drew support from signs the Federal Reserve will keep interest rates close to zero for longer, and from a decline in oil prices that helped push a gauge of inflation expectations toward its lowest since 2010.

Futures show that traders see a 34 percent chance the Fed will raise interest rates at its September meeting, down from a 48 percent probability at the end of last week.

Sovereign Debt

Government debt from Australia to Britain also gained this week, driving the average yield on developed-nation bonds to a three-month low.

Yields on junk bonds rose to an average 7.39 percent, the highest since October 2012, according to Bank of America Merrill Lynch bond indexes. The premium investors demand to hold junk bonds over investment-grade debt climbed to the most since December, the indexes show.

Oil briefly plunged below $40 a barrel in New York for the first time in more than six years on signs the supply glut will be prolonged. The U.S. pumped crude in July at the fastest pace for the month since at least 1920, the American Petroleum Institute reported Thursday. Prices dropped for an eighth week, the longest streak since 1986.

Copper extended its longest run of weekly declines since January, with aluminum, lead, nickel and zinc also dropping.


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Re: Dow Plunges 500 Points on Global-Slowdown Fears
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2015, 09:28:40 pm »
How far will team Obama let this happen? Will he let it crash before or after he leaves office?


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Re: Dow Plunges 500 Points on Global-Slowdown Fears
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2015, 09:47:33 pm »
What's the over and under on them suspending trading on Monday or Tuesday?    :whistle:
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Re: Dow Plunges 500 Points on Global-Slowdown Fears
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2015, 10:02:45 pm »
How far will team Obama let this happen? Will he let it crash before or after he leaves office?
If history's any indication, before.

1987, 2000, 2008, now 2015. In the last or penultimate year of a two-term presidency, a crash seems to be becoming the norm.
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Re: Dow Plunges 500 Points on Global-Slowdown Fears
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2015, 01:36:33 pm »
Emerging market worries prompt selloff, but bulls remain
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NEW YORK (Reuters) - The steep selloff that pushed down the benchmark Standard & Poor's 500 index five percent over three days may say more about the outlook for emerging markets than U.S. companies in the fourth quarter, fund managers and analysts say.

China's economic slowdown, recessions in Latin American countries such as Brazil and Chile, and a breakdown in commodity prices - combined with a thinly-traded market as many investors become more focused on tide charts than trading terminals - are prompting traders to overlook improving U.S. economic data, said Alan Gayle, portfolio manager at RidgeWorth Investments.

"There's a great deal of nervousness around the weakness in China, and that's overshadowing the fact that the U.S. economy is sound and the European Union economy is firming," he said.

Sales of existing U.S. homes rose in July to their highest level since 2007. U.S. auto sales, meanwhile, are on track for their best year in a decade.

Attention will return to those domestic metrics as the Federal Reserve begins its annual meeting in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, next week. Investors will be looking for any signs that the central bank is increasingly worried about global issues or whether it is going ahead with what had been a widely-expected interest rate hike in September.

The Fed has said its decision to raise rates will depend on data such as an improving jobs market and housing market. Should the Fed signal that it plans to raise rates, investor sentiment toward the United States and emerging markets may further diverge.

Minutes released Wednesday of the central bank's most recent meeting revealed Fed officials were concerned about "recent decreases in oil prices and the possibility of adverse spillovers from slower economic growth in China," a detail which helped spark the selling.

At the same time, North Korea put its troops on war footing Friday after South Korea rejected an ultimatum to halt anti-Pyongyang broadcasts. The prospect of war, or signs of more global worries, could further dampen U.S. stocks in the week ahead.

The slowdown in China and other emerging markets such as Brazil is hurting commodity-related companies, but it is not enough to affect either 2015 or 2016 earnings estimates for the S&P 500 as a whole, said Gina Martin Adams, equity strategist at Wells Fargo. Second-quarter earnings rose 0.1 percent from a year earlier, an improvement from the expected decline of 3.4 percent.

Low energy costs should benefit consumer discretionary companies, which Martin Adams expects to grow earnings by 12 percent for the year, up from her previous forecast of 8 percent.

Mutual fund managers are also making bets on U.S. companies that get the majority of their revenues from the domestic market. The average large-cap fund is overweight in U.S.-focused companies, including JPMorgan Chase & Co (JPM.N), railroad Union Pacific Corp (UNP.N), American Express Co (AXP.N), and Comcast Corp (CMCSA.O), according to research by Goldman Sachs.

Martin Adams estimates the S&P 500 will reach 2,222 over the next 12 months, an 11 percent gain from the 1,997 the index reached on midday Friday, after commodity prices bottom and earnings improve.

"The direction of the market is ultimately higher," she said.
Low energy costs? When Obama's EPA is making coal, oil and gas production so difficult?
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Re: Dow Plunges 500 Points on Global-Slowdown Fears
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2015, 01:53:04 pm »
Stevie Wonder could have seen this coming. The market has been flopping around for months going nowhere. This is actually healthy.
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Re: Dow Plunges 500 Points on Global-Slowdown Fears
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2015, 05:04:12 pm »
What's the over and under on them suspending trading on Monday or Tuesday?    :whistle:

Quite possible.  Bottom around 9000.  Maybe a bit lower.
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Re: Dow Plunges 500 Points on Global-Slowdown Fears
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2015, 06:45:00 pm »
Yesterday looked like a selling climax. The huge volume wasn't however matched by the size of the move v. Thursday. I can see the futures opening down some Sunday but stabilizing before retracing Mon or Tues.

The markets I think are trying to punk the Fed into not raising rates. The cover story is China, but the logic doesn't wash.

We'll likely retrace a good part of what was lost and then sit and wait on the Fed to see what they do.
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Re: Dow Plunges 500 Points on Global-Slowdown Fears
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2015, 01:33:25 pm »
Monday not going so well ...
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It's now a bull with claws, as traders await a washout
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The market owes us nothing – not even an explanation.

After rising for six-and-a-half years and reaching a generous valuation in a slow-growth world, big U.S. stocks had gone a long way toward pricing in a healthier corporate economy.

Perhaps the idea that the market owes us no more, that bullish investors were playing only for an “upside overshoot” beyond fair value, set the context for this nasty selloff of the past week. But that’s not very enlightening or helpful right now, as markets look to extend a sloppy selloff into a new week.

Yes, China’s currency devaluation and the disorderly descent of its stock market are the proximate culprits here. But emerging-market assets have been in a smothering decline, commodities were being liquidated and credit markets have been unsettled for months.

While the recent drop of more than 5% is quite “normal” in the grand scheme, it’s been rather sudden and feels more jarring because of the strange calm that preceded it during the flat seven-month “do-nothing” phase.

Now the broad market is making up for a monotonous plot by packing lots of drama into a brief period. Our market has gone from shrugging off global turmoil to throwing up hands in surrender to them.

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So here are a few things to consider as red fills quote screens this morning:

It’s now a bull with claws. We had gone a long while without at least a 5% decline in the S&P 500 (^GSPC) from its high. Now we got one in two days.

Note that we’ve had 48 5% pullbacks from an all-time high in the index since it was created in 1957. Seventeen of those deepened to 10%, and nine of the 48 turned into at least a 20% drop.

The odds still favor this being a bull market until proven otherwise. It’s not common to get more than a 20% drop in U.S. stocks – typically defined as a bear market – without a U.S. recession, and no such things appear imminent. But financial panics can cause swift damage near that magnitude, and the cycle of fear and flight from risk can be self-reinforcing for a while.

Looking at levels. The Shanghai Composite (000001.SS) cracked clear through the 3500 level that was once considered a place the government would try to defend strenuously.

The S&P 500 here laid waste to the 2040 level that had defined the lower border of its long trading range. It is likewise poised to slice through the 1970 mark, near December's low. Some see this move stretching down to 1880 or so before finding firmer ground. I’ve argued before that most of the upside from 1850 could be considered a typical bull-market overshoot, so maybe that’s where prices find stronger-handed buyers. Or maybe we don’t need to get down that far at all. No one should pretend to know.

The trend lines from the 2011 market lows and even the ’09 bottom are now appearing more vulnerable.

Fact is, levels are crucial until they’re not.

The real crucial thing is, we’ve gone from a market where prices change less than underlying circumstances to one where they’re changing faster than fundamental conditions. Can’t emphasize this enough: Nothing has changed as much as security prices in the past few days. When prices of assets fall, they become less risky for the longer term, not more.

Waiting for a washout. Now the would-be heroes are looking for signs that the selling has been too indiscriminate, and a washout is at hand that can be safely played for a ferocious bounce.

The makings are in place: We’ve never seen as fast a surge in the CBOE S&P 500 Volatility index (^VIX) of protective options prices as we have in the past five days. Tons of technical damage has been done. Market leadership for any new rebound will require battlefield commissions.

We’re relatively close to having the conditions for the kind of oversold bounce that will make investors wonder if another “V” bottom has been reached, as happened last October in the growth-Ebola scare. Seasonal forces are less friendly for a durable bottom in late August, though.

Sub-surface silver linings. Aside from the signs of severely oversold conditions, several nagging “divergences” have diminished. No longer are big stocks “ignoring” weak small-caps or sagging overseas markets or carnage in risky-credit markets. This is a net positive.

And most of the sectors most immediately affected by China, commodities and global industrial conditions have already been smoked. Finally, investors had already front-loaded a lot of anxiety, so sentiment is more conducive to a bounce.

The broad investor community never got truly giddy over stocks and has panicked over every 3% downside wiggle. In this context, a bad mood is a good thing, and in theory should insulate us from even more severe markdowns in prices.

Of course, even if the bull market survives this, certain core premises have still been rudely challenged: China as the provider of marginal growth in the world, Chinese authorities’ ability to steer the economy and markets there, the scripted transition by the Fed away from zero interest rates, the immunity of glamour growth stocks to broader market forces.

The adjustment to these shifts is necessarily jarring. But if you wanted that meaty market correction, the time has come to ask yourself what you want to do with it now as it approaches.
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Re: Dow Plunges 500 Points on Global-Slowdown Fears
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... TheStreet's Jim Cramer said in RealMoney columns published Friday and Sunday that the bigger-than-expected selloff was due to heightened fears about the Federal Reserve raising interest rates.

"I blame this selloff on James Bullard, the St. Louis Federal Reserve (CEO) who, amazingly, said in an interview (Friday): 'I know there are a lot of worries about global growth, a lot of it coming from China, I would probably be more sanguine than the market in that dimension,' " Cramer said in Friday's commentary.

He went further in Sunday's column: "If you look at the intraday chart on Friday you can see where the market was trying to rally and then Bullard came out with his incredibly insensitive comments.... It's obvious to even the most obtuse of observers that these silly comments would cause a huge selloff."

Still, Cramer said he was a buyer at Friday's close.

"With interest rates low, commodity inflation nil and the dollar weaker than I thought, I had no choice but to put something to work," he wrote in one of his Real Money columns Friday. "I will be back buying if the market drops another 2% next week."  ...
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Re: Dow Plunges 500 Points on Global-Slowdown Fears
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2015, 02:38:31 pm »
The market stabilized overnite like I thought but the China wild card stuck it's head in and knocked things down about double where I thought it'd bottom. Even so it's retraced most of that back as of this moment.

I'm still going with the market is trying to punk the Fed into changing it's mind about raising rates. Think we got a little caught off guard, but there's no real reason to be panicking this much over China's problems.

Even so, this is a good thing - this downdraft should've started months ago and I'm glad in some ways it's so dramatic so it'll shake people out of the apathetic stupor a bit.
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Re: Dow Plunges 500 Points on Global-Slowdown Fears
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2015, 06:46:58 pm »
The market stabilized overnite like I thought but the China wild card stuck it's head in and knocked things down about double where I thought it'd bottom. Even so it's retraced most of that back as of this moment.

I'm still going with the market is trying to punk the Fed into changing it's mind about raising rates. Think we got a little caught off guard, but there's no real reason to be panicking this much over China's problems.

Even so, this is a good thing - this downdraft should've started months ago and I'm glad in some ways it's so dramatic so it'll shake people out of the apathetic stupor a bit.

At present the market as a whole is so overvalued, due to many many months of "quantitative easing" , that it's going to take a long time and a LOT of pain to wring it all out.
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