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Apes may be closer to speaking than many scientists think
« on: August 14, 2015, 02:19:35 pm »
http://news.wisc.edu/23941

Koko the gorilla is best known for a lifelong study to teach her a silent form of communication, American Sign Language. But some of the simple sounds she has learned may change the perception that humans are the only primates with the capacity for speech. In 2010, Marcus Perlman started research work at The Gorilla Foundation in California, where Koko has spent more than 40 years living immersed with humans — interacting for many hours each day with psychologist Penny Patterson and biologist Ron Cohn. "I went there with the idea of studying Koko's gestures, but as I got into watching videos of her, I saw her performing all these amazing vocal behaviors," says Perlman, now a postdoctoral researcher in the lab of University of Wisconsin-Madison psychology Professor Gary Lupyan.

The vocal and breathing behaviors Koko had developed were not necessarily supposed to be possible. "Decades ago, in the 1930s and '40s, a couple of husband-and-wife teams of psychologists tried to raise chimpanzees as much as possible like human children and teach them to speak. Their efforts were deemed a total failure," Perlman says. "Since then, there is an idea that apes are not able to voluntarily control their vocalizations or even their breathing." Instead, the thinking went, the calls apes make pop out almost reflexively in response to their environment — the appearance of a dangerous snake, for example. And the particular vocal repertoire of each ape species was thought to be fixed. They didn't really have the ability to learn new vocal and breathing-related behaviors. These limits fit a theory on the evolution of language, that the human ability to speak is entirely unique among the nonhuman primate species still around today. "This idea says there's nothing that apes can do that is remotely similar to speech," Perlman says. "And, therefore, speech essentially evolved — completely new — along the human line since our last common ancestor with chimpanzees."

However, in a study published online in July in the journal Animal Cognition, Perlman and collaborator Nathaniel Clark of the University of California, Santa Cruz, sifted 71 hours of video of Koko interacting with Patterson and Cohn and others, and found repeated examples of Koko performing nine different, voluntary behaviors that required control over her vocalization and breathing. These were learned behaviors, not part of the typical gorilla repertoire. Among other things, Perlman and Clark watched Koko blow a raspberry (or blow into her hand) when she wanted a treat, blow her nose into a tissue, play wind instruments, huff moisture onto a pair of glasses before wiping them with a cloth and mimic phone conversations by chattering wordlessly into a telephone cradled between her ear and the crook of an elbow.

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Re: Apes may be closer to speaking than many scientists think
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2015, 04:04:21 pm »
Strange article.

Pretty much every vertebrate has at least some voluntary control over their breathing, so why should the great apes be any different? The sole difference in terms of vocal ability between humans and the rest of the animal kingdom is in the placement of our larynx - which allows us to have extremely fine control of our mouth noises and also allows us, uniquely in the animal kingdom, to choke to death while eating. A case of "It's not a bug, it's a feature" for the evolutionists or "God got lazy and half assed the design" for the creationists.
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As to assigning different sounds to different actions voluntarily - ever had a cat or a dog? They do it, both using specific sounds for various things (an "I'm bored" meow is substantially different from a "feed me now, minion" meow.) and responding to specific sounds with specific actions (look at the whistle language used for sheep dogs). The great apes are FAR more intelligent than dogs and cats (see "In the Shadow of Man - Jane Goodall") so it also stands to reason they would have a greater associative capacity.

Throw in the very rich and complex body language apes use and there is no doubt at all that they can speak. Hold conversations even. Just not really with us - we've got nothing much to talk to each other about.
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Re: Apes may be closer to speaking than many scientists think
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2015, 04:14:16 pm »
dumb article