A top US general picked apart Donald Trump's ISIS policy

[aligncare]

What makes you think given Trump's record that he would solve any of them and not just create more?  Might as well just choose a candidate randomly.

Because skyscrapers don't just spring up on their own. Because solving the hundreds of legal/governmental issues and the inevitable thousands of obstacles that crop up in completing a Trump skyscraper is the responsibility of just one person: Donald Trump. He has a history of getting the job done. He's a doer.

[bkepley]

Because skyscrapers don't just spring up on their own. Because solving the hundreds of legal/governmental issues and the inevitable thousands of obstacles that crop up in completing a Trump skyscraper is the responsibility of just one person: Donald Trump. He has a history of getting the job done. He's a doer.

So he's a doer.  Obama is a doer.  Trump is also a liberal and he would be a liberal doer.

[aligncare]

Grab them by the balls, their hearts and minds will surely follow.

I love this analogy! (At least, I hope it's an analogy?)

[truth_seeker]

Your right TS... I never understood that, and then to go get involved in Iraq without having Afghanistan under control was a real disaster.
Not sure that was Rumy or directly from Bush, but it was bad.....

Colin Powell advised more troops, Rumsfeld opposed using enough troops to gain decisive victory and then be able to hold, old fashioned occupation style.

Of course to mention Powell is one of the many "no-nos" that ruin the discussion. But he was correct, like him or not, as events proved.

[bkepley]

Colin Powell advised more troops, Rumsfeld opposed using enough troops to gain decisive victory and then be able to hold, old fashioned occupation style.

Of course to mention Powell is one of the many "no-nos" that ruin the discussion. But he was correct, like him or not, as events proved.

It might sound crazy but I think Rand Paul is unintentionally the most hard line.  If we required a declaration of war it would mean real total war if necessary.  What we are seeing is what we always see with limited war outside of a few mis-matches such as Grenada.

[musiclady]

Because skyscrapers don't just spring up on their own. Because solving the hundreds of legal/governmental issues and the inevitable thousands of obstacles that crop up in completing a Trump skyscraper is the responsibility of just one person: Donald Trump. He has a history of getting the job done. He's a doer.

But being President of the United States is not the same as building skyscrapers, no matter how successfully one does it.

The quality of being a bully is not an adequate qualification for being President.  We've had that in Obama, haven't we?

A second successive egotistical bully who doesn't listen to anyone but the voices in his own head is NOT what we need right now.

[truth_seeker]

What we are seeing is what we always see with limited war outside of a few mis-matches such as Grenada.

That is why I qualified my remark by stating "major conflict." The "military-industrial" complex thrives on perpetual unsettled situations. Doing so with few troops, avoids the unpopular political necessity of the draft.

Crony-defense industry capitalism, thrives on such permanent status. But we left Korea, Vietnam, the Cold War, and many smaller conflict unsettled. Look closely at Iran, today. We could have finished them off many times over had we wished to do so.

But to do so would have meant really going to war, winning the war, occupying a far-away culturally challenging enemy, etc. Better to just joust a bit, perpetually.

[DCPatriot]

Maybe but one can imagine disciplined military leaders having to deal with a train-wreck like Trump.  It's a dark comedy.

First of all, Trump will immediately sack EVERY military head appointed or promoted by Barack Obama.  "YOU'RE FIRED!!"

While he's a hands-on kind of guy, the one successful trait all entrepreneurs have is the ability to delegate responsibility..something for example, Jimmy Carter found impossible to do. 

Trump's ego will not allow him to fail.  Him OR the American People. 

[DCPatriot]

Maybe it's just me, but I want a President that when asked what he would do about anything to do with the military, responds by saying that he will consult with his Generals, his Joints Chiefs of Staff and his conscience, then he will decide what course to take.

Of course he'd do that, Luis.  Right after he replaces all the existing bullsh*t Obama people in the Pentagon and in the field.

[bkepley]

First of all, Trump will immediately sack EVERY military head appointed or promoted by Barack Obama.  "YOU'RE FIRED!!"

While he's a hands-on kind of guy, the one successful trait all entrepreneurs have is the ability to delegate responsibility..something for example, Jimmy Carter found impossible to do. 

Trump's ego will not allow him to fail.  Him OR the American People.

Oh boy...here we go with the strange hero worship again....

[DCPatriot]

So he's a doer.  Obama is a doer.  Trump is also a liberal and he would be a liberal doer.

Personally, I don't give a rat's a$$ if Trump shows liberal tendencies.  He's not beholden to any Lobbyists at this time, and he's not a Washington insider.

He's going to pi$$ off millions of people....who need pi$$ing off.

But, I'm not going to be one of them.   Not after 8 years of this treasonous nonsense.

[musiclady]

Personally, I don't give a rat's a$$ if Trump shows liberal tendencies.  He's not beholden to any Lobbyists at this time, and he's not a Washington insider.

He's going to pi$$ off millions of people....who need pi$$ing off.

But, I'm not going to be one of them.   Not after 8 years of this treasonous nonsense.

This is a bit scary coming from you, DC.  Are you really saying that you don't care........ don't CARE.......... if Trump is a liberal?  If he doesn't share the overall ideals or principles of conservatism??

I don't get that.  Not at ALL!

[NavyCanDo]

So that's Trump's strategy is we go into Iraq and take the oil?   That's about as realistic as Mexico paying for and building a great wall.


Its populist language like that, that gets him the numbers he has,  But its NOT ACHIEVABLE.

[bkepley]

This is a bit scary coming from you, DC.  Are you really saying that you don't care........ don't CARE.......... if Trump is a liberal?  If he doesn't share the overall ideals or principles of conservatism??

I don't get that.  Not at ALL!

The further one moves right the closer one gets to the left.  DC is moving into Bernie Sanders territory.  It's not a straight line left to right.  It's a circle.

[DCPatriot]

This is a bit scary coming from you, DC.  Are you really saying that you don't care........ don't CARE.......... if Trump is a liberal?  If he doesn't share the overall ideals or principles of conservatism??

I don't get that.  Not at ALL!

I'm merely saying that if Trump is the GOP Nominee, I'll gladly vote for him.

If he runs as a 3rd party, and he dwarfs the GOP Nominee in ALL the major polls that I trust (which I'd be hard pressed to name even one), I'd have to consider it.

I'm not voting for another 'Nice Guy'.  I'm not voting for 'Decent'.   At this point, I'm not even voting for 'Moral'.

I'm looking for somebody to kick a$$ and take names.

Washington is a cesspool. 

Was thinking today, that any college graduate from 2008 to the present has already 'lost' a great deal of their career potential.

They've been weaned on accepting a lower quality of life and earning power.  That's a huge part of the millennial generation.

Back in the days following the attack on Pearl Harbor, people from all stripes came together and participated in making the USA a great super power.  A Phoenix out of the ashes of the Great Depression.

I'd fully expect that to happen very quickly AGAIN if the right business-minded person gets to occupy the White House.

Trump displays a sense of urgency.  Name one other GOP candidate that has his drive, flair.

Truth is, they all put me to sleep.   

[DCPatriot]

The further one moves right the closer one gets to the left.  DC is moving into Bernie Sanders territory.  It's not a straight line left to right.  It's a circle.

I disagree, bkeley.  I believe in the individual.  Not the village.

Trump understands there are winner and losers in life.  He doesn't lay awake at night worrying about the losers.

It's time for some tough love, my friend. 

[DCPatriot]

So that's Trump's strategy is we go into Iraq and take the oil?   That's about as realistic as Mexico paying for and building a great wall.


Its populist language like that, that gets him the numbers he has,  But its NOT ACHIEVABLE.

Come on, we all know Trump isn't going to literally "take their oil".

But he's going to kill the bad guys, who want to hurt us, dead.  He will keep it flowing and perhaps, skim the profits realized by the host countries to pay for our saving their a$$.

[bkepley]

I disagree, bkeley.  I believe in the individual.  Not the village.

Trump understands there are winner and losers in life.  He doesn't lay awake at night worrying about the losers.

It's time for some tough love, my friend. 

Well I definitely do give a rats ass if the one I vote for is conservative.  I'll probably stop voting all together otherwise.

[bkepley]

Come on, we all know Trump isn't going to literally "take their oil".

But he's going to kill the bad guys, who want to hurt us, dead.  He will keep it flowing and perhaps, skim the profits realized by the host countries to pay for our saving their a$$.

Right..right..right..you are soooo easy.

[DCPatriot]

Well I definitely do give a rats ass if the one I vote for is conservative.  I'll probably stop voting all together otherwise.

Today, the word "Conservative" has become a pejorative. 

Better to realize that the Democrat leadership aren't "liberals".  They are out and out Socialists who believe the USA needs to be cut down in size and stature.  All, in trying to create a dependent class who will vote for them to keep the freebies flowing.

My point is that an honest liberal who loves my country and believes in free market capitalism is acceptable at this point.

Social issues be damned.

[musiclady]

I'm merely saying that if Trump is the GOP Nominee, I'll gladly vote for him.

If he runs as a 3rd party, and he dwarfs the GOP Nominee in ALL the major polls that I trust (which I'd be hard pressed to name even one), I'd have to consider it.

I'm not voting for another 'Nice Guy'.  I'm not voting for 'Decent'.   At this point, I'm not even voting for 'Moral'.

I'm looking for somebody to kick a$$ and take names.

Washington is a cesspool. 

Was thinking today, that any college graduate from 2008 to the present has already 'lost' a great deal of their career potential.

They've been weaned on accepting a lower quality of life and earning power.  That's a huge part of the millennial generation.

Back in the days following the attack on Pearl Harbor, people from all stripes came together and participated in making the USA a great super power.  A Phoenix out of the ashes of the Great Depression.

I'd fully expect that to happen very quickly AGAIN if the right business-minded person gets to occupy the White House.

Trump displays a sense of urgency.  Name one other GOP candidate that has his drive, flair.

Truth is, they all put me to sleep.

The urgency to get his face in the news every day and be the most powerful person on the planet, that is......

It takes a whole heck of a lot more than "drive' and 'flair' to be a strong President, DC.  And you most certainly don't have to have 'flair' to be a good one.  It's not in the job description.

Whatever happened to the cry that "character matters" when Clinton was philandering in the Oval Office?  Did some of us change our minds about that?  Or was it a complaint of Bubba based on conviction?

Of course I will vote for Trump if he is the only choice I have.  But I pray to God that it doesn't come down to that.

If it does, I'll pretty much know He's given up on us entirely.......

(I think standing up against Planned Parenthood may be our last chance..... and Trump is on the WRONG side of the debate.  Very, VERY bad, DC!)

[musiclady]

Today, the word "Conservative" has become a pejorative. 

Better to realize that the Democrat leadership aren't "liberals".  They are out and out Socialists who believe the USA needs to be cut down in size and stature.  All, in trying to create a dependent class who will vote for them to keep the freebies flowing.

My point is that an honest liberal who loves my country and believes in free market capitalism is acceptable at this point.

Social issues be damned.

"Social issues" like hacking apart living babies and selling their body parts for profit?

[DCPatriot]

"Social issues" like hacking apart living babies and selling their body parts for profit?

I'm a outspoken critic of abortion.  Also, think it's outrageous that fetal organs and tissue are sold as commodities.

But, we can't expect to outlaw that.  However, it's the funding of such activities by any government that is truly despicable.

He indicated that he would not allow that.  But he's not going to go on record 1-1/3 years out alienating women claiming that PP needs to be shut down entirely. 

[musiclady]

I'm a outspoken critic of abortion.  Also, think it's outrageous that fetal organs and tissue are sold as commodities.

But, we can't expect to outlaw that.  However, it's the funding of such activities by any government that is truly despicable.

He indicated that he would not allow that.  But he's not going to go on record 1-1/3 years out alienating women claiming that PP needs to be shut down entirely.

His statement on PP was a weak regurgitation of their own propaganda about how much 'women's healthcare' they actually do.

If he's going to make statements about issues, he should know the heck what he's talking about.

And he doesn't.

[Luis Gonzalez]

The further one moves right the closer one gets to the left.  DC is moving into Bernie Sanders territory.  It's not a straight line left to right.  It's a circle.

That's incorrect.

Political ideology is not a circle. It's a straight line.

If we accept that the core tenet of conservatism is individualism and the core tenet of socialism is collectivism  then you have to accept that the extreme manifestation of individualism in government is anarchy with the opposite extreme being communism. So then Fascism and Communism are both manifestations of differing degrees of leftist ideological governing.

Collectivism, on the other hand, is a circular model in governmental societal engeneering with both secular and moral collectivist vying for control of societal development by use of government force.