Scott wrote above:
[[ Yes, because the only outcome is them doing just that to us.
You may be interested in suicide for the moral high ground. I am not. ]]Thanks, Scott, for being brave enough to speak the truth in a public forum. I sense that others in this forum believe as much, but "hold back" in their posts. Kudos to you for expressing the frankness that those of The West
-must- acquire if we are to win.
There is no moral high ground in an existential struggle for one's own life. One does what one must to survive.
So it will go with The West, even though we are both unwilling and unable to face up to that reality as of yet.
But make no mistake -- that time WILL arrive, eventually. It may be decades; or it may be only a few more years. Like a great wave before us, the reality of the enemy will rise up so high, that even someone like Dex will no longer be able to turn away from it, to cynically deny it as he does in most of his posts here.
We won in World War II because we were willing to do what was necessary to win. I daresay that even the threat of that time pales in comparison to that The West faces today.
There are many times when maintaining the "moral high ground" is essential to preserving western decorum and principles. But there are also those times when such high ground is without meaning, and when continuing to grasp it can result in nothing but defeat.
The struggle we are in was not and will not be defined by us, and we cannot arbitrarily set the rules of conduct. Our enemy will neither respect nor be hamstrung by moral restraints. It's (more correctly, I should use the term "his", because islam's putsch for world control is in the name of one man) goal is clear, was made clear by its creator 1400 years ago, and he established the means and methods by which such dominance would be achieved.
islam (not "islamic terrorists", but simply islam) will do whatever is necessary to win, use whatever tools it has at its disposal to win. And the "toolbox" available to them is soon going to become considerably more potent.
As to what will be required to defeat it, or at least dissuade it, I have my ideas.
Primary among them is that we must first demonstrate to them that their "god" is a false one, and that the idol they bow towards is false (and we must do so by physically destroying the "object" of such idolatry).
Next, we must find within the intestinal fortitude to realize that not all humans "are alike", and we must shuck off our misguided notions of "egalitarianism" and "equality", and once more embrace the superiority of Western culture and be willing to defend it as such. We must again become PROUD to defend it, without the "guilt" westerners have shed like rain since the victory of World War II.
Having achieved that, we must view the world "on islamic terms", and recognize the two "spheres" that exist from the islamic viewpoint: that of "dar al-harb" and "dar al-islam". And upon such recognition, we must then return all those who follow the precepts of muhammad to dar al-islam, where they belong, and where they can no longer poison The West.
Once accomplished, we must then prevent dar al-islam from threatening The West by cutting it off from the world, by building an effective "sarcophagus" around it as the Soviets built one around the exploded Chernobyl reactor. We must encase islam in such an enclosure until the hatred and fires of muhammed can burn themselves out within. If this takes centuries, so be it.
These actions are necessary if The West has a chance at "winning".
Do you recall a statement attributed to Abraham Lincoln before (or very early into) the War Between the States? I believe Mr. Lincoln said that if he could preserve the Union by freeing none of the slaves, he would do it. If he could do so by freeing some of the slaves, he would do so. Or if he could preserve the Union by freeing ALL of the slaves, he would do that too.
The point is, Lincoln knew what the goal must be -- the preservation of the Union. And he was prepared to do whatever was required to achieve it.
Told you that to tell you this:
Next time someone poses the question here (such as Dex is likely to raise), "how many muslims will we have to kill to win?" -- just remind them of Abraham Lincoln...
