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Obamacare Architect Jonathan Gruber Wants To Tax Fat People
« on: February 04, 2015, 11:06:15 am »
Obamacare Architect Jonathan Gruber Wants To Tax Fat People

By V. Saxena, February 3, 2015.

Remember Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber? If you recall, he got busted for making some startling revelations about how Obama basically lied to the American people to get them to support his royally screwed-up law.

Well, according to new info from the Daily Caller, the beloved Obamacare architect once wrote an essay for the National Institute for Health Care Management in which he argued that we ought to tax fat people:


Ultimately, what may be needed to address the obesity problem are direct taxes on body weight.

While it is hard to conceive of this approach being a common public policy tool in the near term, such taxation may be happening indirectly through health insurance surcharges. Currently, employers may charge up to 20 percent higher health insurance premiums for employees who fail to meet certain health-related standards, such as attaining a healthy BMI.

The new health reform legislation increases this differential to 30 percent, with the possibility of rising to 50 percent. Results of programs that use differential premiums to impose direct financial penalties for obesity will bear watching in the future.

 


Gruber’s goal is not necessarily to raise money, but rather to impose nanny-state governance via taxes. He wants to effectively punish fat people for practicing their guaranteed right to eat like a bunch of hungry-ass pigs.

These sorts of taxes are what Gruber calls “sin taxes”:


U.S. policymakers have long used taxes on tobacco products and alcoholic beverages – so called “sin taxes” – both to moderate consumption of these products and to generate revenue. There is a pronounced inverse correlation between cigarette tax rates and cigarette consumption, and numerous studies have credited tobacco taxes as being the single most effective strategy in achieving our country’s dramatic reductions in smoking.

So again, Gruber’s goal is to use taxes to moderate the behavior of Americans.

You can read the piece in full here.

Question: Does moderating negative behavior via taxes make sense, or does it constitute a slick violation of our liberties?
 
 
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Re: Obamacare Architect Jonathan Gruber Wants To Tax Fat People
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2015, 12:38:56 pm »
No, no. He's going about this all wrong. Tax at the point of purchase: the check-out line at the grocery store. Make it a weigh and pay station. That's where you change purchasing behavior.

After entering your PIN number in the combination card reader/weight scale, you enter your age and height. If you're in the obese range, certain of your purchases considered fattening by government bureaucrats are taxed at a much higher rate.

Then if you're thin, taxes on those "sinful" food items are proportionally lower. Let's really stick it to those fatties. Let them pay the "bulk" of healthcare costs.  :silly:

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Re: Obamacare Architect Jonathan Gruber Wants To Tax Fat People
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2015, 01:14:45 pm »
What big gubmint needs to do is get fat people on their feet and force them to exercise. Yes, that's the ticket. Just have exercise Nazis require the overweight to show up for calisthentics a certain number of times per week. Those who refuse are sent to reeducation camps (the ones with stationary bikes and treadmills). It's all so simple.     :whistle:
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Re: Obamacare Architect Jonathan Gruber Wants To Tax Fat People
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2015, 02:12:06 pm »
Or, since it's been shown that obesity rates among the poor are higher than among the wealthy, you could, you know…just stop handing them free food stamps.
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Re: Obamacare Architect Jonathan Gruber Wants To Tax Fat People
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2015, 02:15:23 pm »
Please, please do this. All those fat neck beards and sassy mommas who voted for Obama will squeal like stuck pigs. (Pun intended). I would enjoy that beyond words.


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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2015, 02:54:02 pm »
Wonder if Michael Moore will support this tax??    :smokin:
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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2015, 02:59:48 pm »
Well, it is coming..
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Re: Obamacare Architect Jonathan Gruber Wants To Tax Fat People
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2015, 03:09:53 pm »
Please, please do this. All those fat neck beards and sassy mommas who voted for Obama will squeal like stuck pigs. (Pun intended). I would enjoy that beyond words.

No. I'm afraid it won't do that at all as welfare queens don't pay taxes!
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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2015, 03:25:06 pm »
 
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Re: Obamacare Architect Jonathan Gruber Wants To Tax Fat People
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2015, 02:59:01 am »
[[ Obamacare Architect Jonathan Gruber Wants To Tax Fat People ]]

Jes' wait 'til he tries to slap his tax on the Moose's big behine'!"