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Muslim Author: The Koran is Guilty of the Paris Massacres
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Muslim Author: The Koran is Guilty of the Paris Massacres

Posted By Daniel Greenfield On January 16, 2015 @ 1:36 pm In The Point | 78 Comments




After every terrorist attack, Western liberals who have never read the Koran, but have read the polls, instantly rise to claim that Atrocity X has nothing to do with Islam and that the perpetrators aren’t even real Muslims. This freelance theology is as absurd as it is false.

In this intriguing article, a Muslim author contends that the truth is exactly the opposite. Unlike Anjem Choudary, he has no investment in such a narrative.


They are not enough, especially when what follows them amounts to no more than idiotic expressions suggesting that a crime like the Charlie Hebdo massacre is not an expression of “true Islam.” In an effort to divorce Islam from responsibility for other crimes, some have said that the Islamic State (ISIS), Jabhat al-Nusra, Asa’ib Ahl al-Haqq, Hezbollah, Boko Haram, Somalia’s Al-Shabab, the Taliban and hundreds of other armed groups also do not represent true Islam…

The people from the Sunni camp of contemporary Islam who carried out the Charlie Hebdo massacre, the Pakistani school massacre before it, the massacres by ISIS in Syria and Iraq, the 9/11 attacks and other atrocities all belong to true Islam. The same applies to the people in the Shiite camp of contemporary Islam who kidnapped and killed foreign journalists in Beirut, and issued and renewed the fatwa that said the blood of British writer Salman Rushdie could be spilt. They are a central part of true Islam and its many schools of jurisprudence.

It doesn’t matter which Islamic text, whether it is a Qur’anic or jurisprudential text, or a text recounting the sayings of the Prophet Mohammad; the killers do not kill for nothing, they kill in the name of books, fatwas, ayahs and age-old tradition. All of these things are inseparable parts of true Islam. They will remain Muslims as long as they pronounce the shahada and as long as the religious institution doesn’t dare to modernize the criteria for being a Muslim.

These killers are us. They are our religion at its most extreme. They are our true Islam taken to its furthest extent and they are not beyond the scripture. If the West says in one united voice “we are Charlie” we should say “we are ISIS.”

The arguments are impossible to refute. That’s why no one refutes them except by a thorough censorship of the subject.


As Muslims, what should we do with Ayat as-Sayf, the fifth verse of Surat at-Tawbah, one of the last Qur’anic chapters delivered to the Prophet in the city of Medina, and thus of central importance with regard to the structure of Islamic rulings and the system for the relationship with the other? The ayah says:

“Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! God is Forgiving, Merciful.”

With this in mind, was the ayah not instrumental in building Islam’s military glory? Didn’t Islam become a vast empire of might, dominion, high renown, money and power? Was this ayah not the central compass that directed the wars of the Muslims, from the preparations for the conquest of Mecca to jihadist pamphlet “The Neglected Duty,” by Muhammad abd-al-Salam Faraj, one of the clearest and most dangerous pieces of jihadist literature ever written? For those who are unfamiliar with Faraj, he was the emir of the Al-Jihad group that assassinated Anwar Sadat in the name of the very same true Islam.

Nadim goes into a number of examples from Islamic scripture and concludes that.


Islam as a whole stands accused in advance, and not only its extremist fringe. The original texts that form an inseparable part of true Islam and inspire the ongoing crimes committed in its name are also guilty. This will be true as long as there is no central authority to reorganize the relationship between the Islamic text, as a piece of history, and the necessities of the present day…

Of course there is no incentive for such an authority to transform Islam, since Islam has continued to successfully expand through violence, and while Muslims individually and as a culture continue to pay a high price for the Jihad, it still works.

And cultures don’t tend to change what works except under great pressure.


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Re: Muslim Author: The Koran is Guilty of the Paris Massacres
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2015, 02:19:54 pm »
Saying that the so-called "moderate Muslims" represent "True Islam" is like saying that the Unitarian Church represents true Christianity.

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Re: Muslim Author: The Koran is Guilty of the Paris Massacres
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2015, 03:29:24 am »
A selection from my archives:
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"Even if he WAS a Muslim, so what? 99.99% of all Muslims are good, peace-loving people"

In medieval times, people created fairy tales and magical creatures to make sense of their world. One of the most endearing is the unicorn, a horse with a single horn that symbolized purity and wholesomeness. In our modern times, people in Europe and the United States consider themselves more sophisticated and rational than people from the Middle Ages, but we still create myths, albeit more subtle ones.

Daily we hear reports of violent acts committed by Islamic terrorists on every inhabited continent. We try to wish it away with the myth of the "Moderate Muslim", telling ourselves the Islamic agenda has been "hijacked" by a "tiny minority of extremists" and that soon the huge, silent, "moderate" majority of Muslims will take charge and change things. However, post 9/11 very few Muslims have condemned terrorist actions. We are still waiting for moderates to stand and deliver, identifying and removing extremist thugs from their mosques and their communities. Waiting for this self-correction is our modern version of searching for unicorns.

"Moderate Muslims" will not be able to wrest control of the agenda for several reasons. First of all, Mohammed, the Messenger of Allah's eternal word, was not moderate. No moderate can legitimately tell another Muslim to stop doing the extremist things Mohammed himself did. Also, the Qur'an condones violence and coercion to further the Islamic agenda. People whom we call "moderates" are labeled hypocrites by Allah Himself in the Qur'an. Moderates will always lose the argument because, as ex-Muslim author Ibn Warraq says, "There may be moderates in Islam but Islam itself is not moderate."

Islamic expert Daniel Pipes and others estimate ten percent of the Islamic world to be militant. In 1933 when the Nazi party took control of Germany it had 2 million members, comprising only three percent of Germany's sixty-six million citizens. A tiny minority of extremists can control a vast number of moderates, making them irrelevant. Placing hope in "The "Moderate Muslim" is like searching for unicorns in the forest.

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Re: Muslim Author: The Koran is Guilty of the Paris Massacres
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2015, 03:38:45 am »
Saying that the so-called "moderate Muslims" represent "True Islam" is like saying that the Unitarian Church represents true Christianity.

"The militant Muslim is the person who beheads the infidel, while the moderate Muslim holds the feet of the victim."

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Re: Muslim Author: The Koran is Guilty of the Paris Massacres
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2015, 03:42:39 am »
I'd recommend one read the original article (at least, the English translation of the English article):  https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/commentary/564668-we-are-all-isis


If this is legit, then it is part of what the muslim world needs to start doing with itself and its sacred texts, because it rather bluntly sets out the issues and points at precisely the issues within islam that provide support for the terrorists and which must be dealt with authoritatively by muslims who wish to start living in the twentyfirst century.


I hope (trust) the author won't mind if I post the full text of the English translation:

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Condemnations are no longer sufficient. They were never enough in the first place and they never bore any weight except as an entry point to more advanced steps.

They are not enough, especially when what follows them amounts to no more than idiotic expressions suggesting that a crime like the Charlie Hebdo massacre is not an expression of “true Islam.” In an effort to divorce Islam from responsibility for other crimes, some have said that the Islamic State (ISIS), Jabhat al-Nusra, Asa’ib Ahl al-Haqq, Hezbollah, Boko Haram, Somalia’s Al-Shabab, the Taliban and hundreds of other armed groups also do not represent true Islam.

So what is this true Islam that those who condemn crimes committed in the name of Islam are supposed to be bestowing upon us? Beyond condemnation, what confrontation with the criminals have the proponents of true Islam been engaged in since the defeat of the Mu’tazila — the defeat of rationality in Islam 1,100 years ago?

Condemnation alone is not enough. The people from the Sunni camp of contemporary Islam who carried out the Charlie Hebdo massacre, the Pakistani school massacre before it, the massacres by ISIS in Syria and Iraq, the 9/11 attacks and other atrocities all belong to true Islam. The same applies to the people in the Shiite camp of contemporary Islam who kidnapped and killed foreign journalists in Beirut, and issued and renewed the fatwa that said the blood of British writer Salman Rushdie could be spilt. They are a central part of true Islam and its many schools of jurisprudence.

It doesn’t matter which Islamic text, whether it is a Qur’anic or jurisprudential text, or a text recounting the sayings of the Prophet Mohammad; the killers do not kill for nothing, they kill in the name of books, fatwas, ayahs and age-old tradition. All of these things are inseparable parts of true Islam. They will remain Muslims as long as they pronounce the shahada and as long as the religious institution doesn’t dare to modernize the criteria for being a Muslim.

These killers are us. They are our religion at its most extreme. They are our true Islam taken to its furthest extent and they are not beyond the scripture. If the West says in one united voice “we are Charlie” we should say “we are ISIS.”

As Muslims, what should we do with Ayat as-Sayf, the fifth verse of Surat at-Tawbah, one of the last Qur’anic chapters delivered to the Prophet in the city of Medina, and thus of central importance with regard to the structure of Islamic rulings and the system for the relationship with the other? The ayah says:

“Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! God is Forgiving, Merciful.”

With this in mind, was the ayah not instrumental in building Islam’s military glory? Didn’t Islam become a vast empire of might, dominion, high renown, money and power? Was this ayah not the central compass that directed the wars of the Muslims, from the preparations for the conquest of Mecca to jihadist pamphlet “The Neglected Duty,” by Muhammad abd-al-Salam Faraj, one of the clearest and most dangerous pieces of jihadist literature ever written? For those who are unfamiliar with Faraj, he was the emir of the Al-Jihad group that assassinated Anwar Sadat in the name of the very same true Islam.

What kind of ruling can there be against “idolaters” in the 21st century and what should we make of the ruling to slay them “wherever [we] find them” now that we have international law and the nation state? Where do today’s Muslims draw the line between Islamic jurisprudence and law?

As Muslims, what should we do with the 20th verse of Surat at-Tawbah, which is dedicated to our relationship with Christians and Jews? The text is as follows:

“Fight those who do not believe in God or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what God and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.”

Do these ayahs belong to the so-called ayahs of forgiveness that Muslims praise as evidence of Islam’s kindheartedness in conferences of flattery and social deception? Are they really all we have left of Islam in its latest incarnation?

What is the verdict on the fatwas of Sheikh ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah who still presides over the jurisprudence of jihad eight centuries after his death, from the Muslim Brotherhood to ISIS? What is his position, in view of who he is in the history of Islamic jihadist jurisprudence, in today’s Muslim world? Who will draw the borders between the jurisprudence of jihad as one of the Islamic sciences and the criminal jurisprudence that was practiced in Paris, especially as both of them are derived from the same original texts?

It was very telling that straight after the announcement of the Charlie Hebdo massacre people’s thoughts turned to Islamist extremists, despite the fact that the French magazine’s satire spared not Judaism, Christianity nor the French political establishment. This is because Islam’s relationship with the present is in crisis, and any group going through such a crisis is always the first suspect. In fact, Islam as a whole stands accused in advance, and not only its extremist fringe. The original texts that form an inseparable part of true Islam and inspire the ongoing crimes committed in its name are also guilty. This will be true as long as there is no central authority to reorganize the relationship between the Islamic text, as a piece of history, and the necessities of the present day, in the same way the Qur’anic text itself acclimatized as the ayahs were gradually sent down, with some new rulings replacing older ones.

The truth is that what the killers did in Paris has only reinforced the images drawn by the artists of Charlie Hebdo. The only difference between the actions of the artists and the killers is that the number of people who follow caricatures is far less than those who followed the international drama caused by the massacre. Nothing can insult Islam and Muslims as much as such crimes, and yet we still make do with saying that they do not represent true Islam, without providing a clear description of what true Islam is, beginning with our religious schools, some of which are factories for crime, to our constitutions which are rigged with the mines of Islamic jurisprudence and Sharia law.

Nothing insults Islam more than the Charlie Hebdo massacre, which says, from the belly of true Islam itself: Those of us who love the Prophet most are our greatest criminals.


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Re: Muslim Author: The Koran is Guilty of the Paris Massacres
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2015, 03:51:45 am »
We can sit around contemplating and pontificating about what islam ought to do.

I say islam ought to be made to fear that if they don't change very soon, they will reap the full measure of the military power the US has maintained for 70+ years, period.
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2015, 05:07:18 am »
Would it have been more appropriate to fight communist Russia and China without a thorough discussion of the ideas in the Communist Manifesto?  Would it have been better to confront Hitler without knowing, or misrepresenting, what was in Mein Kampf?

These radical Muslims haven't written any new books.  They are abiding by the words written in the existing ones.  Yet we in the west act as if the words in the book are beautiful and poetic, and that the radicals are misinterpreting those words.  It's an absolute lie.  I have read the Koran (English translation) from cover to cover.  I know from my reading that the radicals are practicing the religion in the manner it was designed to be practiced.  This is a reality we in the west simply refuse to acknowledge, and until we do, this war will never end.