Potential conservative rebellion fizzles

[mystery-ak]

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/228931-potential-conservative-rebellion-on-rule-fizzles

January 08, 2015, 02:23 pm
Potential conservative rebellion fizzles
By Cristina Marcos

A procedural vote sailed through the House Thursday afternoon despite threats from conservatives to derail it in a show of solidarity with GOP lawmakers punished for voting against Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio) as Speaker this week.

In a 244-181 vote, the House adopted a rule to set parameters for floor debate on a measure to redefine a full-time workweek under ObamaCare later Thursday, as well as a bill to approve the Keystone XL pipeline on Friday. No Republicans opposed the rule.

Standard House procedure requires members to adopt a rule before considering legislation that requires only a simple majority to pass. If a rule fails, the House cannot begin consideration of the underlying legislation.
Rep. Randy Weber (R-Texas), who supported Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) for Speaker instead of Boehner, urged fellow conservatives on Wednesday to oppose the rule after two fellow defectors were kicked off the House Rules Committee.

Florida Republican Reps. Dan Webster, who ran as an alternative candidate for Speaker, and Rich Nugent, who voted for Webster, were removed from the Speaker-selected panel Tuesday evening. The powerful committee decides how legislation will be considered on the floor and produces each rule.

"Two members taken off Rules Cmte yesterday after voting for a dif House speaker. Let's all vote "NO" on all rules until they're put back on!" Weber tweeted Wednesday.

Even Weber ultimately voted with all other Republicans to adopt the rule. The Texas Republican claimed Tuesday that he had also received retribution for voting against Boehner after original plans for him to introduce a noncontroversial bill this week regarding low-dose radiation research were canceled.

Nugent himself decided not to oppose the rule, citing a desire to debate the ObamaCare and Keystone bills.

"Thx for support, but Jobs & Keystone is more important to me than a committee slot. I’m voting Yes on Rule," Nugent tweeted.

Webster similarly opted to advance ObamaCare and Keystone legislation he favors instead of joining any protest.

"Jobs are a lot more important than the committee," Webster said off the House floor Thursday afternoon. "That's very, very important legislation."

Webster, who accrued 12 votes in the Speaker election, said he'd like to be reappointed to the House Rules Committee despite its reputation for wonkiness and long hours.

"It's not like people flock to get on that committee," Webster laughed. "It's a rough time and it takes a lot of time. I do enjoy it, though."

[truth_seeker]

So far 2010 was the high water mark, for the Tea Party movement.

Just getting back to that level would take some sober, mature, realistic assessment of their message (methods, tactics) and messengers.

Or the alternative is denial which is "I'm okay, you're not."

[libertybele]

So far 2010 was the high water mark, for the Tea Party movement.

Just getting back to that level would take some sober, mature, realistic assessment of their message (methods, tactics) and messengers.

Or the alternative is denial which is "I'm okay, you're not."

...and so...what is or has been the message of the GOPe?  Do nothing and allow Obama/Dems to fuflill their agenda of destroying America or is it we can play this ping-pong game back and forth and create the illusion that we are actually doing something.  It is the GOPe that needs to make some kind of sober, mature realistic assessment of what they actually stand for anymore.  The midterm elections weren't about the "love" for the GOPe, but rather the disdain for Obama policy.  Either the GOPe delivers or they will be voted out and have absolutely no chance of securing the oval office in 2016 ... IF this country actually holds on that long.  Say what you want about TEA, but THEY are the reason we even have a snowball's chance in hell of saving this country from economic and socioeconomic collapse. 

[truth_seeker]

...and so...what is or has been the message of the GOPe?  Do nothing and allow Obama/Dems to fuflill their agenda of destroying America or is it we can play this ping-pong game back and forth and create the illusion that we are actually doing something.  It is the GOPe that needs to make some kind of sober, mature realistic assessment of what they actually stand for anymore.  The midterm elections weren't about the "love" for the GOPe, but rather the disdain for Obama policy.  Either the GOPe delivers or they will be voted out and have absolutely no chance of securing the oval office in 2016 ... IF this country actually holds on that long.  Say what you want about TEA, but THEY are the reason we even have a snowball's chance in hell of saving this country from economic and socioeconomic collapse.

The GOP lacked the political power to pass anything, or to "fight" or "prevent" anything, because not enough voters chose their candidates in the marketplace of political ideas.

Recent gains in the House, and the Senate, give them more political power. At least enough to start making deals and compromises to get some of what conservatives want.

More thoughtful conservatives will give this congress some time to get underway, and then judge them based on their results, not by what entertainers have to say for their daily shows.

[Fishrrman]

libertybele wrote above:
[[ The midterm elections weren't about the "love" for the GOPe, but rather the disdain for Obama policy.  Either the GOPe delivers or they will be voted out and have absolutely no chance of securing the oval office in 2016 ...]]

Gee thanks Ms. Liberty for putting in the "...", I didn't even have to!

I was thinking about something earlier today.
Thinking back to the end of Desert Storm, it was 1991, right?

When Desert Storm was done, George H.W. Bush had an approval rating with the American people of 89%, I recall. I also recall reading a quip in either Time or Newsweek (remember them?) that said [to democrats], "look upon my poll numbers and weep!"

That was in early 1991.

The next year in November, Bush got 39% in the general election. And did not the democrats win both the Senate and House?

One of the greatest political "reversals of fortune" in American history.

Sure, the Pubbies have just won a smashing victory.
They won because the American people hope and expect them to do something.

They've got, say, six to eight months in which to demonstrate that they are capable of "doing something".

If it's "GOP-e business as usual", they'd better be watchin' out.

Fortunes can reverse in either direction...