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House GOP leader confirms role at white-supremacist event
« on: December 30, 2014, 01:02:09 am »
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/house-gop-leader-confirms-role-white-supremacist-event


Rep. Steve Scalise, R-La. speaks to reporters on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C., June 19, 2014. J. Scott Applewhite/AP

House GOP leader confirms role at white-supremacist event
12/29/14 04:33 PM—UPDATED 12/29/14 04:42 PM


By Steve Benen

Earlier today, the Huffington Post reported that House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) is “facing questions about allegations that he was a featured speaker” at a white-supremacist event in 2002. According to the allegations, first reported by blogger Lamar White Jr., Scalise “spoke at an international conference of the European-American Unity and Rights Organization headed by Nazi and former Klan leader David Duke.”
 
There’s apparently no recording of the remarks from the Louisiana Republican, who was a member of the state legislature at the time, but a neo-Nazi website documented Scalise’s role at the gathering 12 years ago.
 
Soon after, Politico noted that the congressman’s office “cannot definitively say whether he spoke to a white supremacist group.” The Washington Post’s Robert Costa had more luck getting a confirmation.

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Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.), the House majority whip, acknowledged Monday that he spoke at a gathering hosted by white nationalist leaders while serving as a state representative in 2002, thrusting a racial controversy into House Republican ranks days before the party assumes control of both congressional chambers.
 
The 48-year-old Scalise, who ascended to the House GOP’s third-ranking post earlier this year, confirmed through an adviser that he once appeared at a convention of the European-American Unity and Rights Organization.

In a written statement issued by the Republican leader’s office, the congressman’s spokesperson said, “Throughout his career in public service, Mr. Scalise has spoken to hundreds of different groups with a broad range of viewpoints,” said Moira Bagley, Scalise’s spokesperson. “In every case, he was building support for his policies, not the other way around. In 2002, he made himself available to anyone who wanted to hear his proposal to eliminate slush funds that wasted millions of taxpayer dollars as well as his opposition to a proposed tax increase on middle-class families.”
 
The statement added, “He has never been affiliated with the abhorrent group in question. The hate-fueled ignorance and intolerance that group projects is in stark contradiction to what Mr. Scalise believes and practices as a father, a husband, and a devoted Catholic.”
 
As explanations go, this one might need a little work.
 
If these reports are accurate, and there are no important, exculpatory details, one of the top leaders of the House Republican majority appeared at a white-supremacist gathering. Scalise’s office insists the far-right congressman “has never been affiliated with the abhorrent group in question,” but when a politician agrees to speak to white nationalists, at an event organized by a group led by a neo-Nazi, denying an “affiliation” is inherently problematic.
 
Indeed, it raises a host of related questions, which Scalise will probably have to try to answer fairly soon. Was he aware of the white supremacist group’s ideas when he agreed to speak at their event? During his remarks, did he make any effort to reject their racist views or agenda? At what point, exactly, did the Republican lawmaker realize who he was speaking to? Did this lead him to leave immediately or did he welcome these voters’ support for his campaign?
 
Two years later, Scalise was one of only a handful of Louisiana lawmakers to vote against the creation of a Martin Luther King Day. Did he discuss this during his appearance at the racist event?
 
It’s not unrealistic to think a story like this one puts Scalise’s leadership role in real jeopardy. The other House Republican leaders are reportedly “aware of” this story and “are monitoring” developments, and it’s fairly easy to imagine Speaker John Boehner and his team deciding that the Louisiana congressman will need to step down before the leadership elections next month.
 
Republicans have invested a fair amount of energy in recent years, claiming that they’re committed to improving their outreach to minority communities. Having a House GOP leader who spoke at a white-supremacist event arguably undermines that outreach in an obvious and hard-to-explain way.
 
Note, the same year that Scalise spoke to the white nationalists, Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) ultimately lost his leadership post in the U.S. Senate after he said the nation would have been better off electing Strom Thurmond president in 1948 – the year Thurmond ran on a segregationist platform.
 
Republican leaders decided the racial element of Lott’s comments was simply too much for the party to support. Scalise’s participation in a white-supremacist gathering is every bit as serious, if not more so.
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Re: House GOP leader confirms role at white-supremacist event
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2014, 01:25:38 am »
We have a President who was raised by communists.

What's the point?
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Re: House GOP leader confirms role at white-supremacist event
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2014, 01:52:48 am »
Democrats looking for anything to take the heat off Obama and Sharpton trying to start a race war.
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Re: House GOP leader confirms role at white-supremacist event
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2014, 02:35:36 am »
andy wrote above:
[[ We have a President who was raised by communists.
What's the point? ]]


The point is that the leftists have their own "one drop" rule.

That rule is:
Anyone on the right who can be associated with the concept of "white rights" or white interests in any way, shape or form is automatically deemed to be "racist" and unworthy of any credence or respect and unworthy of public office or any position of responsibility anywhere.

And.... anything that person might speak or write that suggests that blacks carry even a smidgeon of blame for their conditions and behavior brands them as "haters", "bigots", or you-name-it.

Look at Dr. James Watson.

I for one would appreciate someone like Mr. Scalise representing MY interests in Congress.
If that makes me "a hater", or a "racist", I no longer care.
I no longer respond to such accusations.

I hope Mr. Scalise doesn't back down.
If he steels himself to hold firm and stay the course, this will disappear when next week's blast of leftist outrage springs up from the trash heap.

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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2014, 03:37:33 am »
andy wrote above:
[[ We have a President who was raised by communists.
What's the point? ]]


The point is that the leftists have their own "one drop" rule.

That rule is:
Anyone on the right who can be associated with the concept of "white rights" or white interests in any way, shape or form is automatically deemed to be "racist" and unworthy of any credence or respect and unworthy of public office or any position of responsibility anywhere.

That is an interesting analogy, insofar as it compares the simple-minded (and culturally unacceptable) determinism of racial bigotry with the more "intellectual" (and hence culturally acceptable) determinism of the Progressive ethic. 

Practically, it appears as a double standard: people on the political Right are held to a standard of absolute perfection, judged only by their flaws and worst examples. Leftists conversely are judged only by their promises and intentions, and are thus held to no standard at all.

Consequently, it is now held as true that every living Conservative is tarnished by even the inadvertent behavior or unthinking action of a single one of their number, but the entire Left is absolved by virtue of their mere intentions from culpability for the more than 100 million dead 20th Century victims of collectivism for which they still apologize and pretend they can someday perfect.   
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Re: House GOP leader confirms role at white-supremacist event
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2014, 04:30:10 am »
I thought Buckley purged most of these idiots to fringe parties decades ago.
There is no room for this on the Right. Identity politics is the nature of the Left. We *should* be about individualism.

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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2014, 07:33:16 am »
As an American of half Portuguese, and half Italian descent, the question is when did an Italian [Capone had a button man named Scalise - he was Sicilian] become an Aryan?
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2014, 03:53:23 pm »
As an American of half Portuguese, and half Italian descent, the question is when did an Italian [Capone had a button man named Scalise - he was Sicilian] become an Aryan?

Portuguese and Italian would be far more likely to have North African ancestors.

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Re: House GOP leader confirms role at white-supremacist event
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2014, 05:00:37 pm »
I'm fine with this as long as every Democrat who have ever spoken before the NAACP likewise resigns.

These fools do remember Senator Robert Byrd (D), that fine KKK-recruiter, member and Exalted Cyclops for his local unit...


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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2014, 05:40:08 pm »
Love all the buzzwords they throw in.

I wonder then, what of the representatives and senators that speak before other racial groups? And just what is the CBC or La Raza or any of the hundreds of ethnic identity groups lobbying congress and getting an audience?

Consistency has never been the left's fort.

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Re: House GOP leader confirms role at white-supremacist event
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2014, 06:42:52 pm »
Abraxas wrote above:
[[ I thought Buckley purged most of these idiots to fringe parties decades ago.
There is no room for this on the Right. Identity politics is the nature of the Left. We *should* be about individualism. ]]


Somebody should have reminded Mr. Buckley (before he started tampering with what the meaning of "conservatism" should be and who should be permitted to speak out) that:
Reality is what it is. It is not what we believe it to be.

As such, "individualism" is yet one more ideal -- a product of imagination, not reality.

The entire history of Man can be viewed as the contest between one "group" vis-a-vis another. Without such "identity", the nations of The West could never have taken shape as they did. Without identity as a nation, they couldn't have withheld attempts by others to invade or overthrow them.

I would also like to remind Abraxas that until 1965 or so, it was the express policy of The United States (insofar as immigration was concerned) to admit (to the numbers of nearly 100%) only those who conformed (in ethnicity, which also implies "identity") to a certain standard -- that is, European ancestry.

Of course in 1965, the entire paradigm of who was permitted to enter the US and stand for citizenship changed. The immigration (and ridiculous refugee) policies we see today are a result of that.

Are you truly satisfied with how the character of the nation has changed since then?
Aye or nay?
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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2014, 06:54:16 pm »
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I would also like to remind Abraxas that until 1965 or so, it was the express policy of The United States (insofar as immigration was concerned) to admit (to the numbers of nearly 100%) only those who conformed (in ethnicity, which also implies "identity") to a certain standard -- that is, European ancestry.

The Chinese didn't build the railroads?

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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2014, 07:55:37 pm »

I would also like to remind Abraxas that until 1965 or so, it was the express policy of The United States (insofar as immigration was concerned) to admit (to the numbers of nearly 100%) only those who conformed (in ethnicity, which also implies "identity") to a certain standard -- that is, European ancestry.

Of course in 1965, the entire paradigm of who was permitted to enter the US and stand for citizenship changed. The immigration (and ridiculous refugee) policies we see today are a result of that.

Are you truly satisfied with how the character of the nation has changed since then?
Aye or nay?

1. The decline started happening long prior to 1965 and the correlation to removing the European higher quotas had little to do with that (and it wasn't close to 100% European).

2. Prior to 1965, immigration was not restricted to that from Europe. The Immigration Act of 1920 (Woodrow Wilson's bill) and 1924 (inspired by Wilson's bill) limited immigration to no more than 2% of each nation. It was biased toward European immigration because it limited it to the population numbers of the 1890 census. It did restrict immigration from Asia, but not Latin America or Africa, or other regions which had the same 2% based on population restrictions.  Latin American legal immigration during this period was rather high as a percentage of the whole, on par with Europe. African Immigration was not high due to population.

3. The change of the character of the nation has zero to do with the Immigration and Control Act of 1965. The change started happening long prior to this.

4. American culture is not European culture. We are very distinct. European culture, especially prior to 1965, is highly class based, almost a caste system in all but name. There is little movement outside ones class. Prior to the past few decades, you rarely heard of a major company starting in a garage. It is the type of system our forefathers and many after looked to leave.

5. Sure individualism is an ideal- it is an ideal we were founded on. It is the ideal that you are not bound by your families national origin, your class, your race, your religion. You can achieve based on your own individual merits. This is the opposite of European culture, Latin culture, Asian culture, African culture, or any culture. We have failed not because of immigration but because we reject that. We box everyone up based on all those labels and tell them they can't make it, they can't achieve because of they are XYZ race or their parents are from XYZ country. Therefore the government has to ride in on their white horse and help the oppressed(sic).

Whether it is Conservatives doing it or Liberals doing it, racial boxing of people is the anthesis of what makes our nation great.

If you want to know what has been changing the character of our nation- it isn't immigration change in 1965 but the long rejection of the individual and the desire to put everyone in boxes and tell them they are defined by that box and limited by that box- it allows the government and those in power to step in to 'help'.

Someone decrying 'white power' is as bad as someone decrying 'black power' is as bad as someone decrying 'la raza' and so on. Its just a means to subjugate the individual. As long as you are told you are a victim, yes even the 'white' person being told he is a victim of XYZ group, is just an opening for someone to be the savior of that victim. It is a means of control that tickles the ears of whatever group is being played to.

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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2014, 08:07:41 pm »
Blacks are far, far more trouble than all the other minority groups combined.

American blacks commit murder at over seven times the rate of the rest of us.

They are overrepresented on virtually every welfare and crime statistic.

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« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2014, 08:25:58 pm »
Blacks are far, far more trouble than all the other minority groups combined.

American blacks commit murder at over seven times the rate of the rest of us.

They are overrepresented on virtually every welfare and crime statistic.

...and yet their families have been here for generations longer than most of ours.  It may not be a popular sentiment but I feel sorry for them. They are the primary victims of liberalism. To put it bluntly, the black community has been raped by liberals. Prior to LBJ's Great Society, black in this country were the fastest growing economic group. Their rates of new business creation was even trending higher than whites. They had less divorce, more in-wedlock births. The change wasn't due to the Civil Rights act as these trends were nationwide.

What changed was the Great Society and leftists moving in on the civil rights movement to highjack it themselves.

A reminder that the modern Civil Rights movements started under Eisenhower. It was JFK who initially stalled it and his own justice department under RFK who were the ones cracking down on it. They only turned when they saw the opportunity to hijack it for political purposes (and later it was closely tied to groups behind the anti-war movements).

LBJ wasn't even secret about it. He was going to keep those n* voting Democrat for 200 years- in his own words.

Within a generation of the Great Society you saw a complete collapse of the black family. You saw black business ownership crash. You saw black culture change from being part of America to trying to be an African culture instead. Radical leftist organizations raped the black community, putting the back under the government plantation and they have been indoctrinated since then to not be Exceptional American Individuals but to be Oppressed Africans. Crime skyrocketed, poverty skyrocketed, education plummeted, culture declined.

Like I said, it may not be popular, but I feel sorry for the once great and strong black community in this country. They are like an abused wife going back to an abusive husband over and over even though it just gets worse for her, all because of mental conditioning.

The Democrat party and other liberals are society's rapists. All so they can bask in their own ill gotten power over those they rape.

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« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2014, 08:32:42 pm »
Very well said AbaraXas!  I'd like to copy your entire quote to give to some of my liberal friends that keep blaming conservatives for being racists!  I could not say it better myself!

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« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2014, 08:54:32 pm »
Abraxas wrote above:
[[ 1. The decline started happening long prior to 1965 and the correlation to removing the European higher quotas had little to do with that (and it wasn't close to 100% European).
2. Prior to 1965, immigration was not restricted to that from Europe. ]]


Source for the following:
http://cis.org/1965ImmigrationAct-MassImmigration
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"This bill we sign today is not a revolutionary bill. It does not affect the lives of millions. It will not restructure the shape of our daily lives."

So said President Lyndon Johnson at the signing of the Hart-Celler Immigration Bill thirty years ago next month, on Oct. 3, 1965. The legislation, which phased out the national origins quota system first instituted in 1921, created the foundation of today's immigration law. And, contrary to the president's assertions, it inaugurated a new era of mass immigration which has affected the lives of millions.

Under the old system, admission largely depended upon an immigrant's country of birth. Seventy percent of all immigrant slots were allotted to natives of just three countries — United Kingdom, Ireland and Germany — and went mostly unused, while there were long waiting lists for the small number of visas available to those born in Italy, Greece, Poland, Portugal, and elsewhere in eastern and southern Europe.

The new system eliminated the various nationality criteria, supposedly putting people of all nations on an equal footing for immigration to the United States. The new legislation (P.L. 89 236; 79 Stat. 911; technically, amendments to the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952) substituted a system based primarily on family reunification and needed skills.
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(considerably more info at the above URL)

You are trying to bend historical reality to serve your own narrative.

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« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2014, 11:37:44 am »
The Democrat party and other liberals are society's rapists. All so they can bask in their own ill gotten power over those they rape.
Great posts AbaraXas. 

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Re: House GOP leader confirms role at white-supremacist event
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2014, 02:08:50 pm »
But you can be a former Grand Wizard of the KKK and that's just fine.
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« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2015, 01:10:57 am »
I'm copying your post, AbaraXas! I couldn't agree more, and you said it all so well. I know several people who will sputter when they read it  :patriot: