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Boehner Won't Commit to Defunding Executive Amnesty Next Year
« on: December 04, 2014, 11:03:56 pm »
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Boehner Won't Commit to Defunding Executive Amnesty Next Year
Michael Warren
December 4, 2014 12:25 PM

John Boehner said he would not commit to bringing up a bill to strip critical funding from the Department of Homeland Security in the next Congress. Instead, the speaker of the House says there are "lots of options" for blocking President Obama's executive order on immigration. At a Thursday press conference in the Capitol, Boehner did not guarantee the House would vote to block or cut off funding from DHS once Republicans had control of both houses of Congress in 2015.

“There are a lot of options on the table,” said Boehner in response to a question from THE WEEKLY STANDARD. “I’m not going to get into hypotheticals of what we could or couldn’t do. But I do know this. Come January, we’ll have a Republican House and a Republican Senate, and we’ll be in a stronger position to take actions.”

Boehner and House Republican leaders are pushing to pass a short-term funding package before the end of the current budget resolution next week. The package would allow Congress to revisit the funding for DHS, which is implementing the order, early next year. The Ohio Republican emphasized the current plan to address the immigration executive order in the next Congress gives the GOP the best chance for “keeping our leverage.” But, Boehner said, “we have limited options in how we can deal with this.”

The speaker's remarks came on the day the House is expected to vote for a bill, sponsored by Florida Republican Ted Yoho, that would bar the administration from exempting certain categories of unlawful residents from deportation. Some conservatives have argued the bill can do little to roll back the executive order because it fails to target any funding. Homeland Security has already secured office space and is currently hiring full-time employees and contractors dedicated to processing cases falling under President Obama’s executive order.

The House will return for the final days of its lame-duck session next week to vote on the funding package before the December 11 deadline. Failing to pass the short-term spending bill will result in a government shutdown, but a small number of Republican House members have expressed their opposition to the plan and support cutting off funding from DHS during before next week's deadline. To pass his bill, Boehner will likely need Democratic votes.

“I expect that we’ll have bipartisan support to pass the omnibus appropriations bill,” Boehner told reporters Thursday.
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Re: Boehner Won't Commit to Defunding Executive Amnesty Next Year
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2014, 03:22:41 am »
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Failing to pass the short-term spending bill will result in a government shutdown, but a small number of Republican House members have expressed their opposition to the plan and support cutting off funding from DHS during before next week's deadline.
By refusing to work with Boehner those house members just prove their votes are unreliable.  It forces Boehner to move to the left, to capture a majority, or buy rat votes with favors...and that proves those fringe right votes are unnecessary.

What kind of committee assignments do you think they will get next year? :laughingdog:

I think it is time the GOPe starts targeting the real Republicans In Name Only.

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Re: Boehner Won't Commit to Defunding Executive Amnesty Next Year
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2014, 04:06:06 am »
By refusing to work with Boehner those house members just prove their votes are unreliable.  It forces Boehner to move to the left, to capture a majority, or buy rat votes with favors...and that proves those fringe right votes are unnecessary.

What kind of committee assignments do you think they will get next year? :laughingdog:

I think it is time the GOPe starts targeting the real Republicans In Name Only.

In other words, all you want in Congress are a bunch of Obama kissing liberals, like yourself.
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Re: Boehner Won't Commit to Defunding Executive Amnesty Next Year
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2014, 04:14:52 am »
By refusing to work with Boehner those house members just prove their votes are unreliable.  It forces Boehner to move to the left, to capture a majority, or buy rat votes with favors...and that proves those fringe right votes are unnecessary.

What kind of committee assignments do you think they will get next year? :laughingdog:

I think it is time the GOPe starts targeting the real Republicans In Name Only.

Sorry - even though I agree with Boehner as a purely tactical matter, I do not blame some members for being skeptical.

The truth is, they've been hosed before. Moreover, there are Republicans in the Senate who would vote enthusiastically for amnesty because they believe the Chamber of Commerce's bullshit, fueling their cheap labor dreams. None of them get it - not only will our hapless illegal immigrants wind up out of work, but so will much of the native-born middle class, unless we start creating new small industries here at home, ones whose labor cannot easily be outsourced to China or run by robots.

And the only way we do that begins with scrapping the obscenity known as the US Federal Tax Code, and legislatively stripping the executive powers currently granted to hundreds of Federal bureaucracies largely run by people informed by a radical Progressive ideology.

We also need to stop the Federalization of our schools and return control of education to parents. We need to promote a reform of the culture that encourages the family, and not government as the central organizing principle of our society.

We need to promote a set of coherent values around which people of good will can rally - beginning with honor and personal responsibility. We need to restore the central role of neighborhoods and communities and faith-based charities in mediating social problems.

We need to rediscover America, and once more unleash the entrepreneurial genius that once moved us to greatness by recognizing that our rights are not a gift from government but from God; by embracing the blessings of freedom and acting upon them not as a mass of warring tribes, but as a nation of vastly diverse individuals united by a sense of purpose and faith in something greater than ourselves alone.

And to do that, we need a real conservative as President  - not some dead-eyed Progressive GOP apparatchik who embraces slow socialism instead of the faster version that is now plainly devouring our Republic and our future.

And finally, to do that, we need a man or woman who can articulately and sincerely explain not what we must do, so much as why.
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Re: Boehner Won't Commit to Defunding Executive Amnesty Next Year
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2014, 05:30:49 am »
In other words, all you want in Congress are a bunch of Obama kissing liberals, like yourself.
You keep on believing that AC.  Never change. 

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Re: Boehner Won't Commit to Defunding Executive Amnesty Next Year
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2014, 06:14:14 am »
Sorry - even though I agree with Boehner as a purely tactical matter, I do not blame some members for being skeptical.

The truth is, they've been hosed before. Moreover, there are Republicans in the Senate who would vote enthusiastically for amnesty because they believe the Chamber of Commerce's bullshit, fueling their cheap labor dreams. None of them get it - not only will our hapless illegal immigrants wind up out of work, but so will much of the native-born middle class, unless we start creating new small industries here at home, ones whose labor cannot easily be outsourced to China or run by robots.

And the only way we do that begins with scrapping the obscenity known as the US Federal Tax Code, and legislatively stripping the executive powers currently granted to hundreds of Federal bureaucracies largely run by people informed by a radical Progressive ideology.

We also need to stop the Federalization of our schools and return control of education to parents. We need to promote a reform of the culture that encourages the family, and not government as the central organizing principle of our society.

We need to promote a set of coherent values around which people of good will can rally - beginning with honor and personal responsibility. We need to restore the central role of neighborhoods and communities and faith-based charities in mediating social problems.

We need to rediscover America, and once more unleash the entrepreneurial genius that once moved us to greatness by recognizing that our rights are not a gift from government but from God; by embracing the blessings of freedom and acting upon them not as a mass of warring tribes, but as a nation of vastly diverse individuals united by a sense of purpose and faith in something greater than ourselves alone.

And to do that, we need a real conservative as President  - not some dead-eyed Progressive GOP apparatchik who embraces slow socialism instead of the faster version that is now plainly devouring our Republic and our future.

And finally, to do that, we need a man or woman who can articulately and sincerely explain not what we must do, so much as why.

Thank you for your meaty reply.  I don't really disagree with any of what you wrote except immigration and the need for a real conservative as President.  I'll pass on arguing immigration but let us talk about how we scrap the tax code, or stop federal school interference, or promoting family and God.

I think you do it incrementally...the same way the rats F'd up the country when they held the US House for 40 years straight and 60 out the previous 64 years. 

As far as a "real conservative as President," conservatives always think that if they can just find a charming articulate candidate with a strong conservative message they can win the White House.  but if conservative arguments persuaded the middle or left they would be conservative.  The left has heard your message and rejected it.  They don't want to give up their Affirmative Action and Obama phones.  The middle mostly doesn't care if it doesn't affect them personally.

The problem isn't the candidate.  It is never the candidate.  The problem is the people.  They don't want conservatism and you can't force it down their throat.  Move the people to the right and they will vote for the real conservative candidate.

How do you do that?  again...incrementally turning the flame up under the pot of water with the frog.  Don't let them get scared of you.

Even Reagan didn't run as a conservative in 1980.  He ran as the twice elected president of his union and a former rat whose heroes were JFK and FDR.  His stump speech talked about his father getting laid off before Christmas by an evil corporation.  His record as Gov of CA was not exactly conservative either. 

When Reagan got into office he made friends with Tip O'Neil and Mikhail Gorbachev.

That is what you do when you need a majority of voters to get into office and stay their for the long term to fix the country.