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Re: Ferguson grand jury fails to reach decision on Darren Wilson indictment
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2014, 06:50:54 pm »
Obama and his black mafia minions are putting severe pressure on this process.  That you can take to the bank...if it's still standing after all this.  Obama is out to railroad this cop.
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Re: Ferguson grand jury fails to reach decision on Darren Wilson indictment
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2014, 06:54:26 pm »
Obama and his black mafia minions are putting severe pressure on this process.  That you can take to the bank...if it's still standing after all this.  Obama is out to railroad this cop.
Yes they are putting pressure on this. I wonder why they couldn't get them to lie and find him guilty?


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Re: Ferguson grand jury fails to reach decision on Darren Wilson indictment
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2014, 08:18:19 pm »
Is there such a thing as a hung grand jury?

Do they start over with a new jury or does this go into the legal books as a failure to indict?

(I really wish I had paid more attention in school   :whistle: )

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Re: Ferguson grand jury fails to reach decision on Darren Wilson indictment
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2014, 08:24:32 pm »
Is there such a thing as a hung grand jury?

Do they start over with a new jury or does this go into the legal books as a failure to indict?

(I really wish I had paid more attention in school   :whistle: )

I am noticing at TOS some read this as they were not done, just went home for the weekend. I read it as they are done so I don't know. CNN just has headline done for Friday.


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Re: Ferguson grand jury fails to reach decision on Darren Wilson indictment
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2014, 08:32:55 pm »
I am noticing at TOS some read this as they were not done, just went home for the weekend. I read it as they are done so I don't know. CNN just has headline done for Friday.

Hmmm... I wonder how many on the GJ will receive a visit from the IRS this week. 

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Re: Ferguson grand jury fails to reach decision on Darren Wilson indictment
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2014, 09:37:46 pm »
Hmmm... I wonder how many on the GJ will receive a visit from the IRS this week.

Not to mention the black panthers.

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Re: Ferguson grand jury fails to reach decision on Darren Wilson indictment
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2014, 09:56:26 pm »
Did I hear someone mention:


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Re: Ferguson grand jury fails to reach decision on Darren Wilson indictment
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2014, 10:42:28 pm »
Is there such a thing as a hung grand jury?

Do they start over with a new jury or does this go into the legal books as a failure to indict?

(I really wish I had paid more attention in school   :whistle: )

In New York, the Grand Jury has an odd number of Grand Jurors [23]. 16 are needed for a quorum to hear a case. Normally, it takes just a majority, 12 [of 23], to indict. Apparently, this Grand Jury has only 12, per the Missouri Constitution. In NY, a grand Jury can't hang. It can indict, no bill, or issue a report [in certain instances]. what Missouri will do if there is a split of 6/6, Ican't tell you.
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Re: Ferguson grand jury fails to reach decision on Darren Wilson indictment
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2014, 02:23:50 am »
Right_in_Viginia asks:
[[ Is there such a thing as a hung grand jury? ]]

The Ferguson grand jury isn't hung.
They have a "decision", but are afraid to make it public.
The decision is that there will be no bill against Darren Wilson.

I sense the struggle in the grand jury chambers is between the jury and the prosecutors as to how to craft their findings in order to make them more palatable for release.

They realize what they must do is going to cause considerable pain and damage in their community and in the nation-at-large, and can't seem to find the intestinal fortitude to "do what must be done", like it or not.
(Aside: in some ways this parallels the incoming Republican Congress, which like the grand jurors will struggle between doing what is right and what is expedient.)

If they had decided to indict officer Wilson, it would over and done, just like that, and they'd be walkin' right outta there.

I'm not a lawyer (though a long long time ago I had some legal training, mostly forgotten), but I don't think there can be such thing as a "hung grand jury" in any case. The grand jury either recommends an indictment, or it does not. If this grand jury doesn't indict, I don't think it's possible to convene another, at least using the same evidence. That might constitute "double jeopardy", clearly against the Constitution.

So my guess is they know they can't indict the officer on what was both proper police procedure AND self-defense.

They just can't find the words to say that...

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Re: Ferguson grand jury fails to reach decision on Darren Wilson indictment
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2014, 03:05:12 am »
Did I hear someone mention:



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Re: Ferguson grand jury fails to reach decision on Darren Wilson indictment
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2014, 03:18:04 am »
I don't think a grand jury can be a hung jury.  They vote to indict or not, and generally that's a majority vote.