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 By Robert Costa November 20 at 1:22 PM

Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) winced as he listened to comments from Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) in reaction to President Obama’s plans to protect undocumented immigrants from deportation.

“Unfortunate, unfair, unnecessary, unwise,” Graham said.

Earlier Wednesday, Bachmann, a retiring tea-party firebrand, had declared that those immigrants covered by the policies that the president would announce Thursday would become “illiterate” voters.

For Republicans the roiling debate over the president’s decision is not only a fight with the White House, but a test of whether they can contain some of the unhelpful passions among their swelling majorities in both chambers. The task is keeping on-message and away from the controversial and sometimes offensive comments that have traditionally hindered attempts to bolster support for the party among Hispanics.

Coupled with the desire to avoid the heated rhetoric is an effort to avert another showdown over government funding, weeks after the GOP made gains in the midterm elections and a year after a 16-day shutdown significantly damaged the party’s brand.

Ahead of the president’s prime-time address Thursday, House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) and Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who will be the majority leader in the next Congress, were grappling with these swirling issues, urging calm in their ranks and considering several moves they believe would be forceful responses to the president, while also keeping the government funded.

Filing a lawsuit over the president’s executive authority, pursuing standalone legislation on immigration policy and removing funding for immigration agencies are some of the ideas that have been floated by aides to Republican leaders.

“We are considering a variety of options,” McConnell said Thursday in a floor speech. He suggested that his preference would be for Republicans to avoid becoming mired in a fiscal clash during the lame-duck session, shortly before the GOP takes control of the Senate.

Many conservative lawmakers, however, are shrugging off those pleas from leadership. Furious with the president, they are planning a series of immediate and hard-line actions that could have sweeping consequences. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) said Wednesday that Obama’s executive action should be met with a refusal to vote on any more of his nominees, and on Thursday compared the action to the ancient Catiline conspiracy, a plot to overthrow the Roman Republic.

Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), likely to be the next chairman of the budget committee, has advocated for a series of stopgap spending bills, with the intent of pressuring the president to relent. And Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) has hinted at possibly bringing up impeachment measures.

But amid the chatter over strategy, it is the tone of outraged rank-and-file members that most worries GOP elders. Ahead of the 2016 presidential election, they do not want to see Republicans tagged by Democrats as hostile toward Hispanics. Even as they battle the president on legal and legislative grounds, they would like to see Republicans shore up support with immigrants and their families.

“We’ve had numerous discussions about that it is necessary,” said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.). “It only takes a couple” of comments for an unflattering narrative to build about the Republican response. “That’s the trouble with having some of these new young punks around here. They ought to listen to us old geezers.”

In the House, Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-Fla.), who has been a prominent backer of comprehensive immigration reform, has been counseling House Republicans about the need to show empathy for undocumented workers as the party rails against the Obama administration, according to GOP aides familiar with his deliberations.

Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.), a moderate from the Philadelphia exurbs and a Boehner ally, said the leadership is asking his colleagues to “not play into the president’s hands.”

“The president wants to see an angry and intemperate response, thinking the Republicans will do something that leads to a shutdown,” Dent said. “Don’t take the bait and don’t have a hysterical reaction. We can be strong, rational and measured.”

Yet the firestorms have continued to flare, with some Republicans, encouraged by grass-roots activists and conservative media personalities, eschewing the party’s more incremental line and making contentious statements.

Speaking with reporters, Bachmann had said the “social cost” of Obama’s immigration policies would be extensive, with “millions of unskilled, illiterate, foreign nationals coming into the United States who can’t speak the English language.”

When pressed on why she used the term “illiterate,” Bachmann said, “I’m not using a pejorative term against people who are non-American citizens. I’m only repeating what I heard from Hispanic Americans down at the border.”

In a Thursday interview with CNN, King said, “We have constitutional authority to do a string of things. [Impeachment] would be the very last option, but I would not rule it out.”
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McCain: "That’s the trouble with having some of these new young punks around here. They ought to listen to us old geezers.”
 
Surely you meant to say "old losers", right, John?
 
The old go-along-to-get-pulverized GOP you so dearly love would never be so rude as to actually seriously challenge your Democrat betters.
 
Not like those little "punks" who actually dare to stand up not only to the idiot Dems, but who also have the temerity to challenge so-called "Republicans" who in acutality are wholly-owned Congressional subsidiaries of Big Business; people who think that cheap labor is good labor, even if it no habla ingles, lives on SSI and eats food stamps.
 
What none of the Chamber of Commerce types understand is that in fifteen years, we're all going to be out of work, and our Senator's lawns will be trimmed by robots.
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This is what happens when you re-elect the GOPe..what a bunch of spineless old men...
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This is what happens when you re-elect the GOPe..what a bunch of spineless old men...

It won't happen too many more times. Many of them will die off, and in about 4 years, Republicans won't be able to get elected to dog catcher.

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[[ Republican leaders hope to contain outrage in the ranks over Obama immigration moves....]]

Ah, so now we see what concerns the Republican leaders.

They're not concerned about stopping Obama's immigration moves and reining in his Constitution-destroying behavior.

Nope.
What they ARE concerned about stopping the outrage of the voters -- against THEM!!

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[[ Republican leaders hope to contain outrage in the ranks over Obama immigration moves....]]

Ah, so now we see what concerns the Republican leaders.

They're not concerned about stopping Obama's immigration moves and reining in his Constitution-destroying behavior.

Nope.
What they ARE concerned about stopping the outrage of the voters -- against THEM!!

I think that you and I, and most people here, knew that all already before reading the article....

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This is what happens when you re-elect the GOPe..what a bunch of spineless old men...

The only hope is in the new blood coming into the party.

IF we can survive until January........
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Obama plays conservatives like Nero played his fiddle.

Let him have his "amnesty", then walk into Congress in January and let the American people know that the Congress they elected is in session and ready to work for the American people, and not for the people here illegally, and that they're certainly NOT there to abide by Obama's mandates.

Tell black Americans that this Congress will work to try and better the lives of the millions of jobless blacks in the country, and not to legitimize competition for those jobs for political gain. Remind them that Treyvon Martin and Michael Brown and thousands of young black men and women died during the Obama Presidency, and he did nothing. 

In fact, remind the 92% of unemployed Black youngsters in Chicago as well as all the unemployed Blacks in the US, that the Senator they helped elect to the highest office in the land riding on the back of a promise for "change" and better days ahead TWICE, spent more political capital and worked harder in a week to secure jobs for illegal aliens, than he has worked at bettering their lives in six years.

DO NOT LET BARACK OBAMA SET THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

The GOP needs to assert the power of Congress and keep Obama on the ropes.

Pass legislation that creates jobs, cut taxes, increases energy independence and cuts down the debt, then shove it in Obama's face and dare him to veto anything.
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[[ Republican leaders hope to contain outrage in the ranks over Obama immigration moves....]]

Ah, so now we see what concerns the Republican leaders.

They're not concerned about stopping Obama's immigration moves and reining in his Constitution-destroying behavior.

Nope.
What they ARE concerned about stopping the outrage of the voters -- against THEM!!

Isn't it the voters they're supposed to be working for?
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Isn't it the voters they're supposed to be working for?

Stop that!

STOP IT!

This is not time for clear-headed sense!
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Obama plays conservatives like Nero played his fiddle.

Let him have his "amnesty", then walk into Congress in January and let the American people know that the Congress they elected is in session and ready to work for the American people, and not for the people here illegally, and that they're certainly NOT there to abide by Obama's mandates.

Tell black Americans that this Congress will work to try and better the lives of the millions of jobless blacks in the country, and not to legitimize competition for those jobs for political gain. Remind them that Treyvon Martin and Michael Brown and thousands of young black men and women died during the Obama Presidency, and he did nothing. 

In fact, remind the 92% of unemployed Black youngsters in Chicago as well as all the unemployed Blacks in the US, that the Senator they helped elect to the highest office in the land riding on the back of a promise for "change" and better days ahead TWICE, spent more political capital and worked harder in a week to secure jobs for illegal aliens, than he has worked at bettering their lives in six years.

DO NOT LET BARACK OBAMA SET THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

The GOP needs to assert the power of Congress and keep Obama on the ropes.

Pass legislation that creates jobs, cut taxes, increases energy independence and cuts down the debt, then shove it in Obama's face and dare him to veto anything.

Do you think the current crop, infused with some new blood have the courage to do all of that, Luis?

That's the only hope I have right now.......
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Obama plays conservatives like Nero played his fiddle.

Or maybe they don't fall for it.
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Or maybe they don't fall for it.

They don't fall for it?

Are you serious?

This Congress hasn't even gone into session and conservatives are already threatening to revolt over what exactly?

Something Obama is threatening to do.

The next thing he's going to do is threaten to legalize same-sex marriage via memos.

Then he moves on to the next hot-button issue that makes everyone foam at the mouth, and after spending six years running Congress, he'll spend the next two running this Congress by proxy and theater.

What are the options here?

To drop any semblance of a legislative agenda concerning things like a budget, and the debt, and the pipeline, and jobs, and spend it trying to fight this immigration move?

What happens if we win?

Are the millions of illegal aliens on our soil going to go POOF! and disappear?

They'll still be here and we'll go back to the current status quo of nothing being done.

Really?

I have news for you.

They've already fallen for it.
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They don't fall for it?

Are you serious?

This Congress hasn't even gone into session and conservatives are already threatening to revolt over what exactly?

Something Obama is threatening to do.

The next thing he's going to do is threaten to legalize same-sex marriage via memos.

Then he moves on to the next hot-button issue that makes everyone foam at the mouth, and after spending six years running Congress, he'll spend the next two running this Congress by proxy and theater.

What are the options here?

To drop any semblance of a legislative agenda concerning things like a budget, and the debt, and the pipeline, and jobs, and spend it trying to fight this immigration move?

What happens if we win?

Are the millions of illegal aliens on our soil going to go POOF! and disappear?

They'll still be here and we'll go back to the current status quo of nothing being done.

Really?

I have news for you.

They've already fallen for it.

That is the unfortunate truth.  In 2007 Republicans had the best shot at good immigration reform, and none of the legalizations would have taken place until the borders were declared secure and a fraud-proof id system was in place.  Additionally, chain migration was ended as was the diversity lottery.  And the legalization process was specific concerning criminal history, job requirements and no use of welfare.  English was mandatory, as was a series of fines and penalties.  But the Republicans shot it down, and now where are we seven years later?

It's time the Republicans lick their wounds, recognize they've lost the Latino vote for generations to come, and get back to some reasonable legislative agenda. 
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McCain: "That’s the trouble with having some of these new young punks around here. They ought to listen to us old geezers.”
 
Surely you meant to say "old losers", right, John?
 
The old go-along-to-get-pulverized GOP you so dearly love would never be so rude as to actually seriously challenge your Democrat betters.
 
Not like those little "punks" who actually dare to stand up not only to the idiot Dems, but who also have the temerity to challenge so-called "Republicans" who in acutality are wholly-owned Congressional subsidiaries of Big Business; people who think that cheap labor is good labor, even if it no habla ingles, lives on SSI and eats food stamps.
 
What none of the Chamber of Commerce types understand is that in fifteen years, we're all going to be out of work, and our Senator's lawns will be trimmed by robots.

Someone should slap the belligerence out of that old phuckers mouth.
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That is the unfortunate truth.  In 2007 Republicans had the best shot at good immigration reform, and none of the legalizations would have taken place until the borders were declared secure and a fraud-proof id system was in place.  Additionally, chain migration was ended as was the diversity lottery.  And the legalization process was specific concerning criminal history, job requirements and no use of welfare.  English was mandatory, as was a series of fines and penalties.  But the Republicans shot it down, and now where are we seven years later?

It's time the Republicans lick their wounds, recognize they've lost the Latino vote for generations to come, and get back to some reasonable legislative agenda.

I called it a Phyrric victory then, and this proves me right.

Had Obama done nothing last night, today those millions of illegal aliens would have gone to work (those who have jobs), gone to school (those who are attending school) and gone about their lives undisturbed just as they have for years and decades even.

So Obama's "memos" are little more than smoke and mirrors cementing in a status quo, but (brilliantly) he's secured a new long-term voter base for the left. Their tent gets bigger while we're busy throwing people out of ours.

Here's a sad statement.

Harry Reid and Geraldo Rivera are right.

Republicans will not undo this Executive "amnesty".

They can't because of the Gruber Factor.

The majority of the people will buy this hook, line and sinker based on the emotional argument in favor of those "hard-working immigrant families chasing the American Dream". The right wing of the GOP will attack the GOP for not winning an unwinnable war and probably (to one degree or another), assist the left in winning elections for years to come.

American voters, by and large, are uninformed, lazy and (yes!) stupid and vote based on emotions rather than logic.

Bright days ahead.
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That is the unfortunate truth.  In 2007 Republicans had the best shot at good immigration reform, and none of the legalizations would have taken place until the borders were declared secure and a fraud-proof id system was in place.  Additionally, chain migration was ended as was the diversity lottery.  And the legalization process was specific concerning criminal history, job requirements and no use of welfare.  English was mandatory, as was a series of fines and penalties.  But the Republicans shot it down, and now where are we seven years later?

It's time the Republicans lick their wounds, recognize they've lost the Latino vote for generations to come, and get back to some reasonable legislative agenda.

Pardon me for correcting you but it was none other than Senator Harry Reid who killed that bill! NOT the republicans!

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Pardon me for correcting you but it was none other than Senator Harry Reid who killed that bill! NOT the republicans!

Bigun.

We were all on the net watching the conservatives revolt against that bill, or as conservatives, revolting against the bill.

The conservative wing of the GOP killed that bill just as much as Reid and the Democrats killed that bill.

Rush, Hannity and Savage spent more time on the air calling for the defeat of the bill than on any other news.

Don't re-write history.
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Bigun.

We were all on the net watching the conservatives revolt against that bill, or as conservatives, revolting against the bill.

The conservative wing of the GOP killed that bill just as much as Reid and the Democrats killed that bill.

Rush, Hannity and Savage spent more time on the air calling for the defeat of the bill than on any other news.

Don't re-write history.

Harry Reid personally killed that bill in the Senate! That is a FACT!

I won't and don't you do it either!
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Harry Reid personally killed that bill in the Senate! That is a FACT!

I won't and don't you do it either!

And conservatives wanted it killed Bigun.

Just like they wanted the 2013 bill killed.

Come on.

I've been through it all for almost fifteen years.

The primary obstacle to any form of legislation that dared identify itself as "immigration reform" has always been from the right wing of the GOP.

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And conservatives wanted it killed Bigun.

Just like they wanted the 2013 bill killed.

Come on.

I've been through it all for almost fifteen years.

The primary obstacle to any form of legislation that dared identify itself as "immigration reform" has always been from the right wing of the GOP.

Since when has Harry Reid ever done the bidding of conservatives Luis???

Conservatives like me objected to the path to citizenship provisions in the bill and I still object to that to this very moment but we didn't have the power to kill the bill!

I'm thinking that perhaps a good exercise for us here would be to try to lay out what we think would make a good immigration bill!

I'll start!

1. Turn off the magnets that attract people to come here illegally! ALL of them!

2.  CLOSE the borders!  Nothing comes in unless through legal and proper means!  Nothing following that language can proceed until those two things are accomplished and verified!

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Since when has Harry Reid ever done the bidding of conservatives Luis???

Conservatives like me objected to the path to citizenship provisions in the bill and I still object to that to this very moment but we didn't have the power to kill the bill!

I'm thinking that perhaps a good exercise for us here would be to try to lay out what we think would make a good immigration bill!

I'll start!

1. Turn off the magnets that attract people to come here illegally! ALL of them!

2.  CLOSE the borders!  Nothing comes in unless through legal and proper means!  Nothing following that language can proceed until those two things are accomplished and verified!

I'm sorry but the biggest magnet is opportunity.  You stop the ability to "write your own ticket", you may as well shut down the country.

Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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I'm sorry but the biggest magnet is opportunity.  You stop the ability to "write your own ticket", you may as well shut down the country.

You know damned well what I'm talking about!
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You know damned well what I'm talking about!

The magnet is the opportunity to come here, find work and garner benefits - without going through a legal process - without the worker or the employee having to suffer severe consequences for the illegal act. 

My sister went to England when she was young, that's where she wanted to live.  She got some kind of temporary Visa or something to stay there for awhile and be able to work.  When the temporary time period ran out - they kicked her out of the country!  She begged them to let her stay - but they said NO.  She ended up marrying a man that she met there so that she could stay.  That man is now my brother-in-law - and after they married, he wasted no time in coming over here to find a better opportunity.  He is highly educated and wasn't making much over there - here in America - he makes a couple hundred thousand dollars a year!

He became a US citizen - the legal way - and I love him like a brother.  America sure was the land of opportunity for him - but he had a valuable skill (he's a physicist) and has become an asset to this country.

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Since when has Harry Reid ever done the bidding of conservatives Luis???

Conservatives like me objected to the path to citizenship provisions in the bill and I still object to that to this very moment but we didn't have the power to kill the bill!

I'm thinking that perhaps a good exercise for us here would be to try to lay out what we think would make a good immigration bill!

I'll start!

1. Turn off the magnets that attract people to come here illegally! ALL of them!

2.  CLOSE the borders!  Nothing comes in unless through legal and proper means!  Nothing following that language can proceed until those two things are accomplished and verified!

The same stances that killed both the 2007 and 2013 bills. How did that work out for you?

When has Harry Reid done the bidding of conservatives?

When it suits his purposes.

Are you trying to convince someone that conservatives openly did not revolt against both the 2007 and the 2013 bills? 

I watched Sean Hannity in 2007 and 2013. I listened to Limbaugh and Savage and their anti-reform rants in 2007 and 2013.

I heard them all say that the bills needed to be defeated and call any Republican who supported immigration reform a RINO.

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Day late and dollar short dude.

Obama started last night.

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Get out the old Teddy Kennedy tapes

Anything McCain and Graham or the other members of the gang of eight tyrants concoct will be subterfuge for a replay of the Kennedy / McCain immigration plan that was blown away by national consensus and was ready to be finished off in the US House of Representatives six years ago.

http://www.conservativeactionalerts.com/2014/02/gang-of-eight-tyrants-like-mccain-kennedy/

Conaservatives can't both claim title to defeating the bills and accuse Reid of killing them.
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