How Socialist Has America Become? You Decide!

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How Socialist Has America Become? You Decide!

By Paul Dowling   / 6 September 2014   / 21 Comments   

 
 
“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”  —John Steinbeck

Remember Marx? Obama Does!

In the Communist Manifesto, Karl Marx outlines the ten steps necessary to bring about the destruction of a free civil society, so that it might be replaced by an all-powerful government apparatus.

President Obama is a socialist, because socialism/fascism is Islam-compliant, insisting on submission to an ideological State, where there is no individual freedom and where the government collective dictates.  Islamo-fascism is the same way.  Keep this in mind while perusing the Ten Planks of Marxism, as laid out by Marx in 1848:

The Ten Planks of Marxism

change1. The abolition of private property rights and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.  The courts have twisted the 14th Amendment to the Constitution to give government more right of eminent domain than originally intended.  Also, private property is now subject to taxation and can be taken from you, if you cannot afford to pay taxes on it—which begs the question: do you really own it, if it can be taken from you, despite the fact you paid in full?

2. A heavily progressive income tax.  The 16th Amendment of the Constitution, (which many Constitutional scholars insist was never properly ratified) and the Social Security Act of 1936, among other initiatives, established the diminishing ability of Americans to save and amass private wealth or to donate vigorously to the religious faiths of their choice.  Americans’ ability to tithe was diminished, as was their right to decide how to invest retirement savings.

3. Abolition of all inheritance rights.  The estate tax, also known as the “death tax,” has at least partially accomplished the abolition of inheritance, since the government takes 55% of your estate, currently, upon your death.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.  We call it government seizures, tax liens, forfeiture, et cetera.  There are tax laws and drug laws on the books allowing the government to seize your property or money, if it is suspected as being the fruit of a poison tree—tax cheating or drug dealing, for example.  The government need only suspect wrongdoing, and no due process is given, directly in violation to your due process rights in the Constitution!

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.  The Federal Reserve System, against which no private bank may compete, actually holds no reserves and allows the government to control the money supply by printing a currency that is not backed by any precious metal.  This currency holds a monopoly in the US as the only currency allowed for payment of all debts and has, due to government inflationary policy (some call this “legal counterfeiting”), lost 98% of its value between 1913 and 2013.  How much wealth has the government destroyed this way?

socialists-now6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the State.  In the US, communication and transportation are controlled and regulated by the Federal Communications Commission, the Department of Transportation, the Interstate Commerce Commission, and the Federal Aviation Administration.  There are also a number of onerous Executive Orders that claim centralized control for the Executive Branch.  There is the federal postal monopoly and AMTRAK, which are government-owned enterprises with unfair competitive advantages over the private sector.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.  The power-grabs are legion: the Department of Agriculture; the Department of Commerce and Labor; the Department of Interior; the Environmental Protection Agency; the Bureau of Land Management; the IRS control of business through corporate regulations; the Agriculture Adjustment Act of 1933 which says farmers will receive government aid only by relinquishing control of their private farming activities.

8. Equal liability of all to labor; establishment of industrial armies.  Social Security is a plan that takes the place of individual liability, or responsibility.  Running up the national debt, in order to enslave all Americans collectively is another strategy to enforce equal liability.  So is the minimum wage law, which disallows people the freedom to make individual agreements acceptable to both parties, since government is a party to every wage agreement, under penalty of law.  Government subsidization of union activities helps establish industrial armies.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.  Agenda 21 is a non-binding action plan of the United Nations with an eye to sustainable development.  It came out of the UN Conference on Environment and Development that was held in Rio de Janeiro, in 1992.  It is an agenda that can be executed at all levels of government, in the 21st Century.

 

 
10. Free education for all children in government schools; abolition of children's factory labor in its present form; combination of education with industrial production.  American public schools are increasingly, under the dictates of Common Core, turning into socialist government indoctrination centers.  Their purpose is to train students to submit to government power.  The idea of “majority-rules democracy” is valued over “republican democracy” (which protects the rights of minorities by making “natural rights” difficult to cancel).  Rather than teaching students “Work hard, so you can enjoy the fruits of your labor!” students are taught instead to pay their “fair share” to the collective, so government can better parent everyone.

The Question

So here is the question: Just how socialist has America become?  If you are concerned about keeping America free, you must vote for the Constitution every chance you get!

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[massadvj]

So here is the question: Just how socialist has America become?

Pretty damned socialist, I'd say.  More socialist than Canada or the UK, and only slightly less socialist than continental Europe.  We are also, unfortunately, irreversibly socialist.  The best we can hope for is that we don't go completely communist in our lifetimes.

[MACVSOG68]

So here is the question: Just how socialist has America become?

Pretty damned socialist, I'd say.  More socialist than Canada or the UK, and only slightly less socialist than continental Europe.  We are also, unfortunately, irreversibly socialist.  The best we can hope for is that we don't go completely communist in our lifetimes.

I think we've got a ways to go to catch up with Britain.  Over half the population lives in government authority council houses; they are stuck with their health care system; regulations totally control every aspect of their lives.  That and the growing Muslim immigration is what's expanding UKIP's influence.  France is heading in the same direction.  Suddenly their socialism isn't so great.  Now if only we can quit toying with it in time to save private enterprise and private property.

[massadvj]

I think we've got a ways to go to catch up with Britain.  Over half the population lives in government authority council houses; they are stuck with their health care system; regulations totally control every aspect of their lives.  That and the growing Muslim immigration is what's expanding UKIP's influence.  France is heading in the same direction.  Suddenly their socialism isn't so great.  Now if only we can quit toying with it in time to save private enterprise and private property.

On the other hand, Britain is more conservative in their management of the pound and they put far fewer restrictions on their multinational corporations such as BP and Unilever.  They also make it easier for these firms to repatriate funds and they tax them at a lower rate than their US counterparts are taxed.

Their taxes on individuals are onerous, though, so you may well be right. 

[alicewonders]

So here is the question: Just how socialist has America become?

Pretty damned socialist, I'd say.  More socialist than Canada or the UK, and only slightly less socialist than continental Europe.  We are also, unfortunately, irreversibly socialist.  The best we can hope for is that we don't go completely communist in our lifetimes.

Your outlook is probably correct Massadvj - although the optimist in me says that hope springs eternal.  The only thing that would drastically change things now would have to be some sort of revolution, hopefully bloodless.  That will only happen when things get much worse than they are now.  Such interesting times we've lived, our generation.  The highest highs, and now it looks like we'll be seeing the lowest lows as well. 

[alicewonders]

I think we've got a ways to go to catch up with Britain.  Over half the population lives in government authority council houses; they are stuck with their health care system; regulations totally control every aspect of their lives.  That and the growing Muslim immigration is what's expanding UKIP's influence.  France is heading in the same direction.  Suddenly their socialism isn't so great.  Now if only we can quit toying with it in time to save private enterprise and private property.

That's going to take a powerful message to convince the LIV that government isn't the all-knowing way to utopia.  And it's going to be as hard, if not harder, to get the politicians and bureaucrats weaned off of the government teat. 

   

[andy58-in-nh]

So here is the question: Just how socialist has America become?

Pretty damned socialist, I'd say.  More socialist than Canada or the UK, and only slightly less socialist than continental Europe.  We are also, unfortunately, irreversibly socialist.  The best we can hope for is that we don't go completely communist in our lifetimes.

I think we we are headed, and have been headed is not toward "Communism", at least as it is defined by the existence of naught but state-owned property and productive enterprises. Instead we are advancing (regressing) toward a form of state-run capitalism, in which private property is tolerated, but its use strictly regulated so as not to conflict with the goals of the state and its central planners. In such a system, individual rights are assumed to be conferred not by God or by nature, but by government and subsumed to the needs of the collective, as defined by state authorities and enforced by internal police power. In other words: we are headed headlong toward Fascism.

[Bigun]

So here is the question: Just how socialist has America become?

Pretty damned socialist, I'd say.  More socialist than Canada or the UK, and only slightly less socialist than continental Europe.  We are also, unfortunately, irreversibly socialist.  The best we can hope for is that we don't go completely communist in our lifetimes.

I think you are mostly right Victor with our only point of disagreement being that it cannot be reversed. I think it can but we only have a relatively short window and must start NOW to undo all 10 of those planks. Plank number two is first on my list!!

We will never again be a truly FREE people for so long as we continue to abide the Marxist income tax and the IRS!

http://fairtax.org

[Bigun]

I think we we are headed, and have been headed is not toward "Communism", at least as it is defined by the existence of naught but state-owned property and productive enterprises. Instead we are advancing (regressing) toward a form of state-run capitalism, in which private property is tolerated, but its use strictly regulated so as not to conflict with the goals of the state and its central planners. In such a system, individual rights are assumed to be conferred not by God or by nature, but by government and subsumed to the needs of the collective, as defined by state authorities and enforced by internal police power. In other words: we are headed headlong toward Fascism.

I couldn't agree more Andy!

And only REAL freedom will fix it!

[EC]

On the other hand, Britain is more conservative in their management of the pound and they put far fewer restrictions on their multinational corporations such as BP and Unilever.  They also make it easier for these firms to repatriate funds and they tax them at a lower rate than their US counterparts are taxed.

Their taxes on individuals are onerous, though, so you may well be right.

The taxes are pretty high on people, though we don't tax money earned abroard, and our taxes certainly don't take much to do. The average working stiff get's his pay with the deductions already done. Any overpayment, say from unemployment suddenly striking, is refunded in full. Underpayment, say from a massive promotion in February, is removed over the course of the financial year. Most tax credits for specially needed eguipment are automatically added to your tax code

Its the VAT that is the killer now, and the capital gains tax and deprecion rules keeps the accountants in business.

They are not fond of people in general trying to use off-shore accounts and will chase you thoroughly.

[Free Vulcan]

We are I believe in this country at that point where the engines have blown but we're still coasting on the momentum and have yet to start the downward path toward Earth, at least economically. Even though I realize the economy isn't that great, neither is it the Great Depression either. In the Midwest and South things are actually doing well.

That said, people and the LIV's are blissfully unaware of the socialism that is being forced on us by DC, simply because money is flowing and they aren't really feeling the consequences yet. The environmental, health care, immigration, deficits and other policies have yet to really bite hard on our lifestyles, though that is coming.

Even then, alot of people who haven't felt it see it and are not happy. Add to that many states have gotten their act together and are making things happen in spite of DC, which has also offset some of the pain of Federal policies. However in the polls you see the disparity, people love their state govt and hate DC, and it is from that I think we can divine the real trend at work.

Bluntly, this country is breaking apart and going separate ways. It will I believe take some time, but within 20 years we will not be the United States of America as we know it. If we aren't completely split apart, we will have a very weak Federal govt too mired in deficits to do much of anything, and de facto or outright nations within a nation that run their own affairs. To what extent that occurs and when I don't know, but I don't expect in my lifetime that the USA will exist as it is organized today.

That IMO is Obama's end game. Not dictatorship, martial law, or even inflicting his messed up vision on our country, but actually breaking it up. And at the moment I believe he's being very successful at it. I truly believe that the people Obama works for as their foreign agent want this country off the world state by any means necessary. Not even a socialist dictatorship would work for them because we'd still have too much power and influence. They simply want us off the chessboard regardless of the arrangement.