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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #125 on: February 18, 2014, 07:17:48 pm »
So, the Pat Caddell story isn't as far-fetched as some would like to think that it is?

IMO, the Pat Caddell (and Doug Schoen) story isn't far fetched at all....  It is pretty much clear as day, if one chooses to really pay attention to what is going on, and not try to excuse away reality...

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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #126 on: February 18, 2014, 07:18:03 pm »
I agree!  IMHO Sink (Dave Carney) lives in an alternative universe not in any way connected to reality!

I agree, and like you I mean that in a GOOD way......Honest!!

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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #127 on: February 18, 2014, 07:23:25 pm »

Even when he's dead wrong, which is the case when we disagree.

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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #128 on: February 18, 2014, 07:26:53 pm »
Honestly, that advanced the discussion... how?

It is my HONEST opinion. Nothing more! I have sink on ignore and have had for quite some time now although I do click on an occasional post of his to see if anything has changed. Unfortunately it hasn't.
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #129 on: February 18, 2014, 07:27:22 pm »
Caddell has  not consulted for Democrats since the Carter administration.

Actually, Caddell and Schoen had a small polling/consulting practice going up until the point that the two of them started speaking out against and calling attention to the abuses of the current administration in its first term.  Soon there after ALL of their business dried up and they found themselves "blacklisted" (sound familiar??), and the recipients of not so thinly veiled threats.  (I don't have a link, this is my recollection from hearing them both telling Hannity about it all over the course of several appearances on his radio show somewhere around 2010-11.)

Caddell and Schoen are part of a dying breed of patriotic Americans that chose to support the Democrat Party as it existed when they came of age in politics.  What some may refer to as "Your Grandfather's Democrat Party" (at least much more so than it does at the present).  The only other person in this category that comes to mind is a fellow named Peter Johnson, Jr., an attorney that appeared often on the FNC morning show.  I am sure that more than 3 of these people exist, but they are the only ones that I come to mind.  What also comes to mind as I think of the three of them, is that they surely love their country much more than their party (especially as it has become corrupted over time, at an ever increasing rate, I may add).  In my opinion they are very patriotic Americans that are pretty much as disgusted and angry about what "both" parties have been doing to this country for quite some time.

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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #130 on: February 18, 2014, 07:33:04 pm »
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #131 on: February 18, 2014, 07:33:35 pm »
Dang Bigun.  I have been burned out for a long time so, accordingly, my posts have been non-substantive for some time.  I can understand ignoring me.  Sink?  No. 
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #132 on: February 18, 2014, 07:41:05 pm »

Dang Bigun.  I have been burned out for a long time so, accordingly, my posts have been non-substantive for some time.  I can understand ignoring me.  Sink?  No.

I understand the urge to ignore. Political passion is akin to madness. Look at what politics did to the German people in the 1930s. Only under the cover of politics could such madness grow.

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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #133 on: February 18, 2014, 07:47:50 pm »
Dang Bigun.  I have been burned out for a long time so, accordingly, my posts have been non-substantive for some time.  I can understand ignoring me.  Sink?  No.

Let me see if I can help you understand. Sink HATES Ted Cruz and always has! I think he is brightest ray of sunshine we've seen in the political realm in a LONG time! He is actually doing what he promised to do while campaigning. 

Sink thinks that surrender is victory. I think that you cannot possibly win a fight that you never have.

And mostly because he lies! Continually persists with the unmitigated BS that Ted Cruz shut down the government no matter how many times he's been corrected on the point.

We are never going to agree!
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #134 on: February 18, 2014, 07:52:00 pm »
Actually, Caddell and Schoen had a small polling/consulting practice going up until the point that the two of them started speaking out against and calling attention to the abuses of the current administration in its first term.  Soon there after ALL of their business dried up and they found themselves "blacklisted" (sound familiar??), and the recipients of not so thinly veiled threats.  (I don't have a link, this is my recollection from hearing them both telling Hannity about it all over the course of several appearances on his radio show somewhere around 2010-11.)

Caddell and Schoen are part of a dying breed of patriotic Americans that chose to support the Democrat Party as it existed when they came of age in politics.  What some may refer to as "Your Grandfather's Democrat Party" (at least much more so than it does at the present).  The only other person in this category that comes to mind is a fellow named Peter Johnson, Jr., an attorney that appeared often on the FNC morning show.  I am sure that more than 3 of these people exist, but they are the only ones that I come to mind.  What also comes to mind as I think of the three of them, is that they surely love their country much more than their party (especially as it has become corrupted over time, at an ever increasing rate, I may add).  In my opinion they are very patriotic Americans that are pretty much as disgusted and angry about what "both" parties have been doing to this country for quite some time.


excellent post.......
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #135 on: February 18, 2014, 08:00:21 pm »
The "old" Republican Party represented "gentleman" politics.  Gentleman politics, nominating the "next in line" and returning the same old politicians election after election has allowed the Democrats to run amok and it is destroying this country.  We need more Ted Cruz's elected to the Senate.  We  - The People - need to take the power back from DC, Wall and K and that is going to take hurting some feelings of those who still think we can play gentleman politics AND save this country.   We are beyond being able to do both.   

I get that some people here are comfortable with the status quo, I don't understand it, but I get it. I am so far past the status quo I'm in the next universe.  I am sick of watching the Mitch McConnell's, John McCain's, Lamar Alexanders, John Boehners, Eric Cantors and Darrell Issa's put K-Street and the Chamber of Commerce over the people who elect them election after election. 

We have so dumbed down out schools - and Common Core is making it even worse - that we don't have a majority of voters in this country with a flipping clue about what is going on and why our economy is stagnating and they are collecting food stamps, AFDC, Section-8 housing and more instead of having a good-paying job to help support their families.  We have allowed environmentalists to destroy a lot of that and again both parties are guilty - McCain is one of the biggest uninformed greenies out there.....
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #136 on: February 18, 2014, 08:01:22 pm »
A bit dramatic?

Very dramatic.  Got your attention, didn't it?
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #137 on: February 18, 2014, 08:04:13 pm »
I agree!  IMHO Sink (Dave Carney) lives in an alternative universe not in any way connected to reality!

If you want to fantasize that I'm Dave Carney, fine.  I'll take credit for Greg Abbott's victory in November...................that is not an insult, BTW. 

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« Reply #138 on: February 18, 2014, 08:09:31 pm »
Let me see if I can help you understand. Sink HATES Ted Cruz and always has! I think he is brightest ray of sunshine we've seen in the political realm in a LONG time! He is actually doing what he promised to do while campaigning. 

Sink thinks that surrender is victory. I think that you cannot possibly win a fight that you never have.

And mostly because he lies! Continually persists with the unmitigated BS that Ted Cruz shut down the government no matter how many times he's been corrected on the point.

We are never going to agree!

I don't hate Ted Cruz.  I think he's an opportunist who's main goal is to advance his own political prospects, and I find his trajectory to be eerily similar to that of one Barack Obama.

Cruz DID shut down government.  He had the insane idea that he could force Obama to defund his own healthcare law.  Then, when that didn't work, he thought he could get him to defer the individual mandate.  At that point, Obama knew he had him whipped and just had to wait out the GOP.

They ended up getting nothing and resolved that they would never again adopt the crazy shutdown strategy. 

If somebody tells you they're not going to do something, and you act as if they are going to do something, who's to blame when nothing happens?
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #139 on: February 18, 2014, 08:16:20 pm »
Once again.............

OBAMA shut down the government...............

OBAMA shut down the government..........

OBAMA shut down the government...............

OBAMA shut down the government..........

OBAMA shut down the government...............

OBAMA shut down the government..........

OBAMA shut down the government...............

OBAMA shut down the government..........

trying to save the country and follow the constitution is not "opportunism"



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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #140 on: February 18, 2014, 08:17:59 pm »
Let me see if I can help you understand. Sink HATES Ted Cruz and always has! I think he is brightest ray of sunshine we've seen in the political realm in a LONG time! He is actually doing what he promised to do while campaigning. 

Sink thinks that surrender is victory. I think that you cannot possibly win a fight that you never have.

And mostly because he lies! Continually persists with the unmitigated BS that Ted Cruz shut down the government no matter how many times he's been corrected on the point.

We are never going to agree!

I have a big problem when the label my opposition to Barack Obama's politics and policies as "hatred".

I have the same problem when it's done by our side.
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #141 on: February 18, 2014, 08:19:38 pm »
Good posts, katzenjammer and Rap! I agree with both of you. And Rap, I'm with you. I am a voter. Period! We voters don't have the luxury of calling the shots, and don't even have a voice. That is not what the FF intended. Our representatives sit in back rooms, discussing how they are going to win elections, and how far they can go with their constituents. They love their power, and how they can fool the people. So they sit and plot and create a false image of themselves. All we can do is write our displeasure, demonstrate, form groups, and vote. And, in so doing, we become the enemy of our own parties. And, as they sit back in their recliners, the media comes to their rescue, fabricating a persona about true conservatives. The GOPe  relish that the democrats, media, and republicans conspired in a sense to invalidate the true patriots.

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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #142 on: February 18, 2014, 08:23:53 pm »
I have a big problem when the label my opposition to Barack Obama's politics and policies as "hatred".

I have the same problem when it's done by our side.

Fact is he has been "fixated" on Cruz from the day he got in the race for Senate. Sink wanted Dewhurst and had nothing but very nasty things to say about Cruz throughout the campaign and even the general election... he has not let up since.... there really is no other term to apply to what he thinks of Cruz... and BTW before Cruz we went thought two years of the same fixation and nasty comments from him re Sarah Palin.   
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #143 on: February 18, 2014, 08:29:57 pm »
I have a big problem when the label my opposition to Barack Obama's politics and policies as "hatred".

I have the same problem when it's done by our side.

I agree! But he persists! You don't see me continually pushing Democrat talking points!

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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #144 on: February 18, 2014, 08:34:52 pm »
Once again.............

OBAMA shut down the government...............

OBAMA shut down the government..........

OBAMA shut down the government...............

OBAMA shut down the government..........

OBAMA shut down the government...............

OBAMA shut down the government..........

OBAMA shut down the government...............

OBAMA shut down the government..........

trying to save the country and follow the constitution is not "opportunism"

You and a phone booth full of other people believe that.  The rest of the country blamed the GOP.

You can like that or not like it, but there it is.
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #145 on: February 18, 2014, 08:36:38 pm »
Fact is he has been "fixated" on Cruz from the day he got in the race for Senate. Sink wanted Dewhurst and had nothing but very nasty things to say about Cruz throughout the campaign and even the general election... he has not let up since.... there really is no other term to apply to what he thinks of Cruz... and BTW before Cruz we went thought two years of the same fixation and nasty comments from him re Sarah Palin.   

Sink is old guard republican establishment to the end. The only human beings I can think of that would be this way at this time would be Boehner himself.

Does Sink have a tan? No wait, Sink would never cry at the drop of the hat lol so he has to be a republican party player or live in republican campaign headquarters. lol
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #146 on: February 18, 2014, 08:37:25 pm »
Fact is he has been "fixated" on Cruz from the day he got in the race for Senate. Sink wanted Dewhurst and had nothing but very nasty things to say about Cruz throughout the campaign and even the general election... he has not let up since.... there really is no other term to apply to what he thinks of Cruz... and BTW before Cruz we went thought two years of the same fixation and nasty comments from him re Sarah Palin.   

So what?  You guys trash Cornyn incessantly, and McConnell, and Boehner.  I guess that's OK.

By the way, I'm not supporting Dewhurst for Lt. Gov.   My vote went to Jerry Patterson, the man who brought concealed-carry to Texas.
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #147 on: February 18, 2014, 08:37:27 pm »
You and a phone booth full of other people believe that.  The rest of the country blamed the GOP.

You can like that or not like it, but there it is.

I don't think the rest of the country gives a flip and polls clearly showed both parties received equal blame..... once again you are projecting your own issues off on Cruz.
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #148 on: February 18, 2014, 08:38:37 pm »
You and a phone booth full of other people believe that.  The rest of the country blamed the GOP.

You can like that or not like it, but there it is.


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So who is it that Maxwell Smart Sink supports from his GOP phone booth?
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #149 on: February 18, 2014, 08:39:16 pm »
I don't think the rest of the country gives a flip and polls clearly showed both parties received equal blame..... once again you are projecting your own issues off on Cruz.

That is not true.  The Democrats got SOME blame, but most of it went to the Republicans.

More importantly, the shutdown wasted two weeks when the attention could have been focused on the botched rollout of the Obamacare.
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