Flesh eating drug ("krokodil") makes appearance in Joliet, Ill.

[Ford289HiPo]

Gotta have a reason to keep the war on drugs going and pay for turning the police into a domestic military.

For some reason, that comment, even though I can see the sarcasm, strikes me more as a conservative comment than a liberal one.

[aligncare]

Gotta have a reason to keep the war on drugs going and pay for turning the police into a domestic military.

For some reason, that comment, even though I can see the sarcasm, strikes me more as a conservative comment than a liberal one.

Our young lad is growing up. But is still not sure he's ready to let go of youthful pride. He still craves peer acceptance. Pop cultural elitists have branded conservatives as racist, sexist and homophobes. So he is yet unwilling to take up the mantle. Give him time.

How did Churchill phrase it? If you are not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you are not a conservative at forty you have no brain. Liberal_Spy is in transition. Why do you think he even bothered to enter our plainly conservative house? To change our minds? Or, acquire his?

[Rapunzel]

Our young lad is growing up. But is still not sure he's ready to let go of youthful pride. He still craves peer acceptance. Pop cultural elitists have branded conservatives as racist, sexist and homophobes. So he is yet unwilling to take up the mantle. Give him time.

How did Churchill phrase it? If you are not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you are not a conservative at forty you have no brain. Liberal_Spy is in transition. Why do you think he even bothered to enter our plainly conservative house? To change our minds? Or, acquire his?

He's playing everyone here like a banjo.

[olde north church]

He's playing everyone here like a banjo.

Yet people keep picking up his sh*t wherever he drops it.  He's been on my ignore since second one.

[Lipstick on a Hillary]

Yup.  I tried putting Liberal_spy on ignore, but the ignore feature doesn't seem to work for me. 

I've never put anyone on ignore before.  I don't think I'm doing it wrong--you just put in the name on the Ignore list, but it won't "take."

[musiclady]

He's playing everyone here like a banjo.

Yep.

'Honest troll' is an oxymoron.

It was obvious on Day One what he was doing, and he's still doing it......

[olde north church]

Yep.

'Honest troll' is an oxymoron.

It was obvious on Day One what he was doing, and he's still doing it......

I don't even refer to it.  These will be the last I ever do.

[EC]

Yup.  I tried putting Liberal_spy on ignore, but the ignore feature doesn't seem to work for me. 

I've never put anyone on ignore before.  I don't think I'm doing it wrong--you just put in the name on the Ignore list, but it won't "take."

Weird. Got the case right? - it is case sensitive. If you type lib in the box and let it auto complete, that might work better.

I only ever put one person on ignore for a couple days once (he made me real mad, totally by accident, so it was the polite thing to do. We're cool now.) When I did it, it didn't take first time. Had to log out and log back in for it to work.

[aligncare]

You can't "play" someone who already knows the tune.

[olde north church]

You can't "play" someone who already knows the tune.

A song that I don't comes on the radio, I change the station.  I can be more proactive here, so I am.

[EC]

You can't "play" someone who already knows the tune.

Agreed.

Most of us are fairly set in our ways. Spent a long time thinking about life, living it and struggling with it. That wisdom is hard won, was painful to gain and we paid for it in cash. So having it challenged is irritating.

I treat L_S more as a whetstone. Sharpening my own ideas and beliefs against his. Same as the wife - she is far more lefty that L_S could ever attempt to be! Still, different strokes and all that.

The only downside of ignore is you can still see posts if they are quoted.

[alicewonders]

You can't "play" someone who already knows the tune.

I don't mind his comments as long as he is polite.  He can learn much from us, he put himself in here, we should use it as an opportunity to be able to hone our ability to defend our idealogy to the other side.   Who knows, we might even be able to "turn" him.   

[EC]

I don't mind his comments as long as he is polite.  He can learn much from us, he put himself in here, we should use it as an opportunity to be able to hone our ability to defend our idealogy to the other side.   Who knows, we might even be able to "turn" him.

Idealist!!! 

[alicewonders]

Idealist!!! 

Idealist AND Dreamer!   

[aligncare]

Exactly, alice. Where's the challenge in conversing with yourself? It's best to get a little pushback. Even though it hurts my head, makes one think a little harder.

[Lipstick on a Hillary]

Weird. Got the case right? - it is case sensitive. If you type lib in the box and let it auto complete, that might work better.

Yes, that's exactly what I did.   

[Lipstick on a Hillary]

I don't mind his comments as long as he is polite.  He can learn much from us, he put himself in here, we should use it as an opportunity to be able to hone our ability to defend our idealogy to the other side.   Who knows, we might even be able to "turn" him.

He has already asked folks here to post reams of explanations of conservatism, and they have obliged.   He doesn't budge an inch.  He is a time waster.

[EC]

Yes, that's exactly what I did.   

 

Only other suggestion is the standard "clear your cookies and your cache." It certainly is an odd problem.

[musiclady]

He has already asked folks here to post reams of explanations of conservatism, and they have obliged.   He doesn't budge an inch.  He is a time waster.

If people want to post to him, that's their call, but the only assumption that should be made about him is that the only honest thing he's done is to select his name.

Trusting anything he says beyond that is, to me, being naïve.

We've all been around the block enough times to know to be skeptical about anyone who trolls conservative websites as a liberal.  There's no reason to think this one is any different than all the rest.

Some have the art of being more polite than others, but none of them hangs around to learn.  Only to disrupt and deceive.

[EC]

On a complete and total side note - thank you for reminding me of Hildegarde! Been reading and Hypatia has competition now! 

[musiclady]

On a complete and total side note - thank you for reminding me of Hildegarde! Been reading and Hypatia has competition now! 

Not sure if this was for aligncare or me, but if it was for me, you're welcome!

Hildegarde is a personal hero.

Looking forward to meeting her in Glory and chatting about music.  ^-^

[LambChop]

I am going to agree and disagree, my friend. This applies to hard core addicts, not casual users.

It's a fairly open secret that I am an alcoholic. Different drug, same mechanism. Addiction isn't something that may be cured. Only controlled, and only if the sufferer wants to do so. Most, simply, do not. My friends at AA/NA say the same thing. The impulse is always there. Sometimes it sleeps for a while, but the bugger always wakes up again, usually at the worst possible time.

Now, should we criminalize drug users? I do not think so, unless they are an active danger to themselves and those around them. Will they consent to learn to control their addiction? Not until they are ready.

Casual users, the ones who can take it or leave it - who cares? Let them take the odd hit if it makes them feel better.

Funny you say that.  My mother, who had been an ex-smoker for nearly 20 years had very strong desires for a cigarette when my father passed away.   Between the stress and the grief, a little voice in her head told her if she just smoked one, she could get through it easier.  She didn't smoke, but still.  Amazing how an addiction can come after you from so long ago, at a time when you are most vulnerable.

P.S my father died of lung cancer.  Which makes it even stranger.  The thing that caused her pain was now calling to her.

[truth_seeker]

I don't mind his comments as long as he is polite.  He can learn much from us, he put himself in here, we should use it as an opportunity to be able to hone our ability to defend our idealogy to the other side.   Who knows, we might even be able to "turn" him.

That is the attitude which is required, to change minds, change votes, and win.

(I personally changed from an idealistic 20 something liberal veteran, to a staunch Reagan conservative during my mid-late 20s) Exposed to life, and to men and women who argued the case effectively.

[EC]

Funny you say that.  My mother, who had been an ex-smoker for nearly 20 years had very strong desires for a cigarette when my father passed away.   Between the stress and the grief, a little voice in her head told her if she just smoked one, she could get through it easier.  She didn't smoke, but still.  Amazing how an addiction can come after you from so long ago, at a time when you are most vulnerable.

P.S my father died of lung cancer.  Which makes it even stranger.  The thing that caused her pain was now calling to her.

Oh yes - it sneaks up on you.

There are others here who have been dry for a lot longer, but they'll agree. Sometimes from stress, sometimes totally out of no where, that little voice pipes up. "Go on. You can have one."

[LambChop]

I believe I'm consistent, Cincinnatus.

Tobacco has always been legal in America.  Alcohol has been, all but for a short time when what was legal suddenly became illegal.

Hard drugs have always been illegal because they are so harmful (the greater negative impact of alcohol and tobacco is due to greater use because they are legal).   If we now legalize harmful drugs, their use will increase, and they will most likely create an even greater negative impact than alcohol and tobacco.

They're already having problems in Colorado with DUI violations regarding the use of marijuana.

Legalizing harder drugs is a very bad idea on any level, IMO.

Unless one wants a greater consumption of them and greater harm to the individuals who will use them because they have become legal.

Actually, marijuana and cocaine didn't become illegal in the US until the early 1900's. (less than 100 years ago)  Along with opium and heroine being legal until regulated/illegal in the late 1800's early 1900's