Removed from Office

[truth_seeker]

How about a quick and dirty straw poll, now after the House Intelligence has voted along party lines, to report an impeachment recommendation to the House Judiciary committee.

[Wingnut]

My choice isn't there.

Oh Hell NO.

[Cyber Liberty]

Not a chance in Hell.

[libertybele]

The possibility is always there, so I voted "yes".  The leftists and RINO's have wanted to remove him since day one.

[GrouchoTex]

Nope

[Jazzhead]

He won't be convicted and removed,  but the theater of impeachment will likely take its toll.    That's the Dem strategy - to soften up Trump for the first dozen rounds so that,  bloodied and battered,  he will fall at the end.   

There is no way that the drumbeat of anti-Trump hysteria, echoing from all manner of media, will not leave a mark.   His base will draw energy from the fight,  but my fear is that independent voters will just want to turn the page.   Even if to do so means voting for a socialist.

So many of us cheer the President's policies but are weary of the tit for tat struggle and the hostility it engenders in everyday folks as they go about their lives.    Lincoln changed his generals and won the war.  So can Republicans.    As fiercely as we must defend the President - and the millions who voted for him - against his arbitrary removal,  we must be realistic to recognize that, come next November, he is not going to win re-election the way things are going.   Trump must be persuaded to hand over the reins to a successor who, freed of distraction, can finish the job he started.     

[skeeter]

He won't be convicted and removed,  but the theater of impeachment will likely take its toll.    That's the Dem strategy - to soften up Trump for the first dozen rounds so that,  bloodied and battered,  he will fall at the end.   

There is no way that the drumbeat of anti-Trump hysteria, echoing from all manner of media, will not leave a mark.   His base will draw energy from the fight,  but my fear is that independent voters will just want to turn the page.   Even if to do so means voting for a socialist.

So many of us cheer the President's policies but are weary of the tit for tat struggle and the hostility it engenders in everyday folks as they go about their lives.    Lincoln changed his generals and won the war.  So can Republicans.    As fiercely as we must defend the President - and the millions who voted for him - against his arbitrary removal,  we must be realistic to recognize that, come next November, he is not going to win re-election the way things are going.   Trump must be persuaded to hand over the reins to a successor who, freed of distraction, can finish the job he started.     

Bless your heart but I always marvel at how you time after time doggedly recommend the one and only way the GOP could possibly lose the upcoming election.

[Smokin Joe]

He won't be convicted and removed,  but the theater of impeachment will likely take its toll.    That's the Dem strategy - to soften up Trump for the first dozen rounds so that,  bloodied and battered,  he will fall at the end.   

There is no way that the drumbeat of anti-Trump hysteria, echoing from all manner of media, will not leave a mark.   His base will draw energy from the fight,  but my fear is that independent voters will just want to turn the page.   Even if to do so means voting for a socialist.

So many of us cheer the President's policies but are weary of the tit for tat struggle and the hostility it engenders in everyday folks as they go about their lives.    Lincoln changed his generals and won the war.  So can Republicans.    As fiercely as we must defend the President - and the millions who voted for him - against his arbitrary removal,  we must be realistic to recognize that, come next November, he is not going to win re-election the way things are going.   Trump must be persuaded to hand over the reins to a successor who, freed of distraction, can finish the job he started.     

I think you underestimate the American people. Democrat perfidy, and that of a few RINOs, only irritates patriotic people who voted for Trump, and many who did not. Instead of doing the business of the Congress, Pelosi and others have been off on a partisan witch-hunt, and that doesn't go over well with any not marching in lockstep. Like Trump or not, the egregious crimes of the previous administration have gone unaddressed, while agencies formerly regarded as nonpartisan have engaged in questionable to illegal activity in an effort to unseat a duly elected president.
No more than Pearl Harbor causing Americans to back down, do I think that the Democrat (party of crazy) attacks will cause anything but an overwhelming response at the ballot box. Short of some real evidence of actual wrongdoing, I think the Dems will lose votes so fast the fraud won't be able to keep up.

[Jazzhead]

Bless your heart but I always marvel at how you time after time doggedly recommend the one and only way the GOP could possibly lose the upcoming election.

Well, time will tell whether I'm right that independents want a break from the reality show, or if you're right that independents are motivated as you are by anger to spite the Dems and continue on the contentious path we've been on.   The polls support my view, time after time,  but everyone knows that you're the brains in this outfit. 

One thing though - I sure as heck don't wish to be right.

[thackney]

Well, time will tell whether I'm right that independents want a break from the reality show, or if you're right that independents are motivated as you are by anger to spite the Dems and continue on the contentious path we've been on.   The polls support my view, time after time,  but everyone knows that you're the brains in this outfit. 

One thing though - I sure as heck don't wish to be right.

Trump’s impeachment opposed by more independents: poll
https://nypost.com/2019/11/21/trumps-impeachment-opposed-by-more-independents-poll/
November 21, 2019

Opposition to the House Democrats’ drive to impeach President Trump is growing, as 45 percent of national voters oppose the measure versus 43 percent who support it, according to a poll released Thursday.

The results from the Emerson College survey — which come after several days of open testimony by witnesses organized by Democrats — represent a 6-point swing from Emerson’s October poll released while the House impeachment probe was going on behind closed doors.

At the time, 48 percent of voters supported impeaching the president, compared to 44 percent who opposed....

[Cyber Liberty]

Well, time will tell whether I'm right that independents want a break from the reality show, or if you're right that independents are motivated as you are by anger to spite the Dems and continue on the contentious path we've been on.   The polls support my view, time after time,  but everyone knows that you're the brains in this outfit. 

One thing though - I sure as heck don't wish to be right.

You believe in polls a lot more than I.  The polls said Hillary had a 95% chance of winning on Election day, and we saw how that turned out, yet you persist in believe the fairy tales.

[Jazzhead]

You believe in polls a lot more than I.  The polls said Hillary had a 95% chance of winning on Election day, and we saw how that turned out, yet you persist in believe the fairy tales.

The polls weren't inaccurate.  It's just that Trump cashed in his 5% chance.   Remember, he lost the popular vote by over 3 million, and won primarily because of very narrow victories in a handful of battleground states.  Also, there was a deus ex machina in October 2016, if you'll recall - Comey's announcement that he was re-opening the Hillary e-mail investigation. 

In short,  Trump was damn lucky.   The polls - almost universally - show he hasn't grown his support much if at all beyond his base, even in the face of a healthy economy.   Now maybe the Dems can manage to paint themselves (the media won't do it for them) as worse and more obnoxious than Trump.   But I wouldn't count on it.   If Trump's the nominee, odds are he will be defeated,  and the Senate will go down with him.   Those are likelihoods I dearly wish to avoid.   

[skeeter]

Well, time will tell whether I'm right that independents want a break from the reality show, or if you're right that independents are motivated as you are by anger to spite the Dems and continue on the contentious path we've been on.   The polls support my view, time after time,  but everyone knows that you're the brains in this outfit. 

One thing though - I sure as heck don't wish to be right.

I’m glad you noticed. And I wouldn’t worry.

[Cyber Liberty]

The polls weren't inaccurate.  It's just that Trump cashed in his 5% chance.   Remember, he lost the popular vote by over 3 million, and won primarily because of very narrow victories in a handful of battleground states.  Also, there was a deus ex machina in October 2016, if you'll recall - Comey's announcement that he was re-opening the Hillary e-mail investigation. 

In short,  Trump was damn lucky.   The polls - almost universally - show he hasn't grown his support much if at all beyond his base, even in the face of a healthy economy.   Now maybe the Dems can manage to paint themselves (the media won't do it for them) as worse and more obnoxious than Trump.   But I wouldn't count on it.   If Trump's the nominee, odds are he will be defeated,  and the Senate will go down with him.   Those are likelihoods I dearly wish to avoid.   

Likelihoods you continue to speak of as if they were facts. 

[Jazzhead]

Likelihoods you continue to speak of as if they were facts.

No one can predict the future.  But when I see a car careening wildly toward almost certain disaster, I counsel applying the brakes.   

[Cyber Liberty]

No one can predict the future.  But when I see a car careening wildly toward almost certain disaster, I counsel applying the brakes.

By abandoning the field to the leftists.  No thanks.  You go right on predicting the future while declaring nobody can predict the future.

[sneakypete]

There is no way that the drumbeat of anti-Trump hysteria, echoing from all manner of media, will not leave a mark.   His base will draw energy from the fight,  but my fear is that independent voters will just want to turn the page.   Even if to do so means voting for a socialist.

Regular Dim voters are going to vote Dim regardless of anything else,and regular Republican voters are split between American and Party Pod people. I suspect most of the Party Pod People will just extend their hissy-fits and stay home and not vote so they can feel good about themselves,but there may be enough of these cretins to throw the election to the Dims.

If not,there will be enough of them the "undecided voters" added to the RINO vote numbers will probably be enough to put a Communist/idiot in the White House,and we well see ALL the gains Trump made in securing America revoked. The borders will be thrown wide open,and anybody not so white you can see through them will be given free housing,food,and medical care,right up to the point the nation goes bankrupt and is forced to become a board member on "World Wide Government,Inc". You will then have all the rights they think you need.

The Dims can't do this without the undecided voters though,and I am guessing most of them will be turned off by what they see and hear on tv.

So many of us cheer the President's policies but are weary of the tit for tat struggle and the hostility it engenders in everyday folks as they go about their lives.    Lincoln changed his generals and won the war.  So can Republicans.    As fiercely as we must defend the President - and the millions who voted for him - against his arbitrary removal,  we must be realistic to recognize that, come next November, he is not going to win re-election the way things are going.   Trump must be persuaded to hand over the reins to a successor who, freed of distraction, can finish the job he started. 

   


Yeah,why not just surrender to the Borg,right? Then we can call "losing" to be "winning". Good thinking. </S>

[sneakypete]

Bless your heart but I always marvel at how you time after time doggedly recommend the one and only way the GOP could possibly lose the upcoming election.

@skeeter

Amazing,ain't it?

[sneakypete]

I think you underestimate the American people. Democrat perfidy, and that of a few RINOs, only irritates patriotic people who voted for Trump, and many who did not. Instead of doing the business of the Congress, Pelosi and others have been off on a partisan witch-hunt, and that doesn't go over well with any not marching in lockstep. Like Trump or not, the egregious crimes of the previous administration have gone unaddressed, while agencies formerly regarded as nonpartisan have engaged in questionable to illegal activity in an effort to unseat a duly elected president.
No more than Pearl Harbor causing Americans to back down, do I think that the Democrat (party of crazy) attacks will cause anything but an overwhelming response at the ballot box. Short of some real evidence of actual wrongdoing, I think the Dems will lose votes so fast the fraud won't be able to keep up.

@Smokin Joe 

Don't worry about the DNC. They have a fool-proof (it would have to be,given all their supporters are fools) campaign slogan for 2020.

"Vote Dim because the Republicans are going to take away all your FREE STUFF if they win!"

This will work so well Dim voters will be climbing out of their graves in graveyards all over the country to go vote on election day. It will be like that election where  the Dim candidate won something like 112 percent of the vote in Philly,and nobody seemed to think that was anything to be worried about.

[sneakypete]

One thing though - I sure as heck don't wish to be right.

@Jazzhead

Do yourself  a favor and don't waste any time worrying about it.

[berdie]

I think Trump will be impeached in the House. They have painted themselves into a corner. But he won't be convicted in the Senate, jmho.

There will be so many pee'd off people on both sides...who knows what will happen during the election???

[Wingnut]

Which single moron voted "Yes"   

Must have been a "Quest"  or Once-ler.

[Hoodat]

A vote that will never take place.  I can't see the House impeaching after this Schiff/Nadler Show.

[libertybele]

Well, so far, I'm the only one that cast a 'yes' vote.   I don't trust the RINO's nor Roberts; anything can happen.

[Cyber Liberty]

Well, so far, I'm the only one that cast a 'yes' vote.   I don't trust the RINO's nor Roberts; anything can happen.

There's one in every crowd...LOL!