Removed from Office

[Hoodat]

Well, so far, I'm the only one that cast a 'yes' vote.   I don't trust the RINO's nor Roberts; anything can happen.

Torches and pitchforks are in your future.

[libertybele]

Torches and pitchforks are in your future.

Sadly, you don't know how true that is these days...story of my life!

[Applewood]

My vote is "meh."

[montanajoe]

No..

But historically the party the POTUS who was impeached/resigned belonged to....lost the next election...

[Cyber Liberty]

No..

But historically the party the POTUS who was impeached/resigned belonged to....lost the next election...

This is a good point I think of from time to time.  Bush the Younger (R) won in 2002, Jimmah (D) in 1976 and Grant (R) in 1868.  Andrew Johnson lists as "National Union" then "Democrat."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States#Presidents

[RetBobbyMI]

Since the Senate can make its own rules for the conduct of the trial, the GOP can and should start with a motion to summarily dismiss the accusations for insufficient evidence.

[Cyber Liberty]

Since the Senate can make its own rules for the conduct of the trial, the GOP can and should start with a motion to summarily dismiss the accusations for insufficient evidence.

Should they?  That would leave all the ridiculous complaints untested and frozen in place, and the press will run with that. 

[aligncare]

Should they?  That would leave all the ridiculous complaints untested and frozen in place, and the press will run with that.

At this point I’m rooting for a senate trial because that’s where democrat corruption will be brought to light.

[Axeslinger]

Should they?  That would leave all the ridiculous complaints untested and frozen in place, and the press will run with that.

@Cyber Liberty
Yep.  Screw that!   I want this trial to take 6months and call every damn member of the swamp as a witness.  Let’s let the American people see what the swamp and the media has wrought. 

I keep being reminded of a quote I read...I think it was when W handed over the reins to Obama...Bush said he told Obama something to the effect of “you’re not going to be able to do much because the mechanisms here in Washington prevent anyone from rocking the boat”

Seemed to be clearly speaking of what we now call the deep state.   I’ve looked at length for that quote but haven’t been able to find it.

[Cyber Liberty]

@Cyber Liberty
Yep.  Screw that!   I want this trial to take 6months and call every damn member of the swamp as a witness.  Let’s let the American people see what the swamp and the media has wrought. 

I keep being reminded of a quote I read...I think it was when W handed over the reins to Obama...Bush said he told Obama something to the effect of “you’re not going to be able to do much because the mechanisms here in Washington prevent anyone from rocking the boat”

Seemed to be clearly speaking of what we now call the deep state.   I’ve looked at length for that quote but haven’t been able to find it.

This is why I think McConnell will chicken out, and pass a Motion to Dismiss if he has 50 votes (Pence would vote to dismiss).

[XenaLee]

Should they?  That would leave all the ridiculous complaints untested and frozen in place, and the press will run with that.

The problem with dismissing it is... the rats would just restart the impeachment process all over again.   They can (and will) keep doing it.   So let's have the trial and at least have a chance of ending it so the nations' business can actually get done, finally.   Won't hold my breath for the obstructionist rats to actually do their jobs of passing legislation, however....

even then.

[MajorClay]

Name 67 Senator who vote Yea.

[sneakypete]

Should they?  That would leave all the ridiculous complaints untested and frozen in place, and the press will run with that.

@Cyber Liberty

I'm with ya 100 percent on that one. For one thing,it would give the Dims grounds for claiming everything they claimed was true,and the Republicans were afraid to challenge them. For another,these devious schemes need to be exposed for the corrupt lies they are.

One place where the Dims are having a problem is they are used to dealing with cowardly fools,like the Bushes and the other RINO's. They fully expect the Republicans to cave and leave them looking Golden.  Trump is made from sterner stuff,and he IS going to fight and expose them once and for all as the party of liars,thieves,and traitors.

They say they want this,so I say "Let's give it to them."

[sneakypete]

This is why I think McConnell will chicken out, and pass a Motion to Dismiss if he has 50 votes (Pence would vote to dismiss).

@Cyber Liberty

You may very well be right. McConnell and his wife are both corrupt to their rotten core,and almost certainly doesn't want anyone to rock his financial boat.

[libertybele]

@Cyber Liberty

You may very well be right. McConnell and his wife are both corrupt to their rotten core,and almost certainly doesn't want anyone to rock his financial boat.

Exactly.  He and other GOP members belong to the same country club as Pelosi and Chucky and that is what I find concerning.

[Cyber Liberty]

Exactly.  He and other GOP members belong to the same country club as Pelosi and Chucky and that is what I find concerning.

I'd bet a C-note that McConnell will pull it, Trump be damned.  It might cost him his own seat, but the Country Club is more important than us serfs.  I dearly want to lose than hunnert bucks.

[Cyber Liberty]

I'm moving this thread to the Impeachment Category.

[catfish1957]

Nope

(1) Only the loony left wants this.
(2) Getting 20 out of 53 GOP Senators to vote for conviction?  LMAO... 

 

[sneakypete]

I'd bet a C-note that McConnell will pull it, Trump be damned.  It might cost him his own seat, but the Country Club is more important than us serfs.  I dearly want to lose than hunnert bucks.

@Cyber Liberty

He won't lose a dime. National  politicians pull in so much money under the table each year they can easily afford to pay both him and his wife enough cash to cover any potentional losses,as well as a tidy bonus on top of that.

"Do NOT rock the boat!" is their national theme song.

[GrouchoTex]

Name 67 Senator who vote Yea.

Right?
I wouldn't hold my breath.

[RetBobbyMI]

@Cyber Liberty
Yep.  Screw that!   I want this trial to take 6months and call every damn member of the swamp as a witness.  Let’s let the American people see what the swamp and the media has wrought. 

I keep being reminded of a quote I read...I think it was when W handed over the reins to Obama...Bush said he told Obama something to the effect of “you’re not going to be able to do much because the mechanisms here in Washington prevent anyone from rocking the boat”

Seemed to be clearly speaking of what we now call the deep state.   I’ve looked at length for that quote but haven’t been able to find it.

That’s assuming Lindsay Graham would actually do anything as Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

[Jazzhead]

This is why I think McConnell will chicken out, and pass a Motion to Dismiss if he has 50 votes (Pence would vote to dismiss).

I fail to see how dragging out this farce helps the country or Trump.   I favor a motion to dismiss, especially if the impeachment vote is straight-down-the-line partisan.   The run-up to the election needs to be about the economy and how to sustain economic growth.  Let the Senate initiate its own investigations over swamp issues.   

[Right_in_Virginia]

I'd bet a C-note that McConnell will pull it, Trump be damned. 

A good defense attorney will always choose the motion to dismiss over a trial.  Juries are notoriously unreliable as are witnesses.

[Cyber Liberty]

A good defense attorney will always choose the motion to dismiss over a trial.  Juries are notoriously unreliable as are witnesses.

As any Rat would be quick to point out, this is not a "criminal trial," it's a "political trial" with a different set of goals and standards.  A successful motion to dismiss would deprive Trump of his day in court, and the Rats and Rat media will be more than happy to declare Trump never proved his innocence, as abhorrent as that notion sounds.  The burden of proof has already been stood on its head.

To me, this is the worst possible outcome.  If the House votes to Impeach, that will be where things stand when it hits the Senate.  Trump will forever be considered an unpunished crook.

[Hoodat]

I would simply table it.  Hold off on moving forward until relevant evidence is presented.  Because up until now, not a single piece of evidence has been presented indicating any offense has been committed.  The Judiciary Committee hearing was the biggest farce of all.  Four college professors giving their opinions on the constitutionality of hypotheticals?  And not one of them citing a fact of something that actually occurred?  Please.

Yes, table the motion.  And have Democrats whine about how the Senate won't move forward on a process with zero evidence?  Absolutely.  It is a win-win.  Make the issue about why the Republicans won't move forward - not about how the Republicans killed it.

Table the motion, Mr. McConnell.