Trump supporter threatened Cruz

[ABX]

I wonder what his freeper name is.

A death threat left on the voicemail of U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz has led to the arrest of a Live Oak man.
The official allegedly targeted by James Amos Headley, 59, is not identified in court records, other than by the initials T.C., and prosecutors and the FBI won’t name him. The Express-News confirmed it is Cruz through other sources.
“Pretty soon you’re gonna be runnin for your life, just hope your family is not with ya because I'm not gonna insult them, I'm gonna kill them, right after I shoot you right in front of them...”

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/San-Antonio-area-Trump-supporter-threatened-Cruz-11302379.php#item-38489

[Cripplecreek]

I forget which FReeper it is who calls Cruz a murdering Mexinadian.

[rodamala]

I wonder what his freeper name is.

QFT

[Cripplecreek]

More.

Sources: Sen. Ted Cruz threatened by Trump supporter

http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Sources-Sen-Ted-Cruz-threatened-by-Trump-11302380.php?t=53616bc47b2d8b6391&cmpid=fb-premium

The criminal complaint affidavit said a staffer for the official retrieved the voicemail on July 13 and reported it to Capitol police, who traced the call to San Antonio. With the help of the FBI here, the agencies identified Headley as the suspect, the affidavit said.

Headley admitted to the FBI that he was mowing the lawn, then came inside and watched the news.

“Defendant told agents he was upset with T.C.’s position on different policies and decided to call and leave a message demonstrating an intent to impede and intimidate a U.S. Official,” the affidavit said.

[Oceander]

Insane. 

[INVAR]

Not surprising.

The amount of vitriol one reads from the Trump Militant against Conservatives who are not cheerleading Trump or did not vote for him goes far beyond the hatred they pretend to have for Leftists.

I read one screed (not here) that blamed Cruz personally for the failure of Trumpcare by inserting that Amendment.  He was declared a traitor for doing so.

That is what political discourse in the country has devolved into.  It's full tilt to get onboard Pragmatic Socialism, and destroy those who get in the way because 20% Republican ideas are better than none at all, even if 80% is Liberal Socialism that must be compromised with to get the 20%

The perfect is the domestic enemy of the good dontcha know.

[truth_seeker]

One bad apple does not a bushel make. He is deservedly in big trouble.

He is NOT representative of all Trump voters, who numbered high enough to win over 300 electoral votes.

Trump voters are good people, that want good things for their beloved country. Not just lofty words.

Speaking ill of Trump voters, is a mirror of Hillary's "deplorable" disrespect. Either way, is does no good.

[TomSea]

Half the country voted for Trump, millions. So, possibly you have a few demented individuals.

[libertybele]

One bad apple does not a bushel make. He is deservedly in big trouble.

He is NOT representative of all Trump voters, who numbered high enough to win over 300 electoral votes.

Trump voters are good people, that want good things for their beloved country. Not just lofty words.

Speaking ill of Trump voters, is a mirror of Hillary's "deplorable" disrespect. Either way, is does no good.

Sorry, but Trump himself accused Cruz's father of murder and stated nasty things about his wife. Though Trump is not responsible for the actions of others, he is responsible for his actions lying about Cruz and his family and Trump is responsible for the viciousness and manner in which he went after them. Though the attacks were verbal,  that behavior signaled to his supporters that inappropriate behavior towards Cruz and his family is o.k.

No, I'm not saying that all Trump voters would display such behavior, but it is hard not to question the morality, thinking, and stability of those selecting someone with Trump's demeanor as their presidential nominee.

[thackney]

Half the country voted for Trump, millions. So, possibly you have a few demented individuals.

62,985,106 out of 325 million.

Less than 20%, far from half.

[HonestJohn]

Sorry, but Trump himself accused Cruz's father of murder and stated nasty things about his wife. Though Trump is not responsible for the actions of others, he is responsible for his actions lying about Cruz and his family and Trump is responsible for the viciousness and manner in which he went after them. Though the attacks were verbal,  that behavior signaled to his supporters that inappropriate behavior towards Cruz and his family is o.k.

No, I'm not saying that all Trump voters would display such behavior, but it is hard not to question the morality, thinking, and stability of those selecting someone with Trump's demeanor as their presidential nominee.

When Trump cast out his lies about Cruz to his followers...

...he was doing exactly the same thing as a radical Imam casting out lies to incite his followers.

[INVAR]

When Trump cast out his lies about Cruz to his followers...

...he was doing exactly the same thing as a radical Imam casting out lies to incite his followers.

I wouldn't say the 'same' thing.

I don't think Trump was inciting his followers to slaughter their political enemies because they are infidels deserving death according to their scriptures.

Even if a couple of them decided on their own that is what their leader wanted them to do.

Of course Taqiyya is perfectly acceptable if one is engaging in deceiving your enemies so you can slaughter them and subjugate them.

But then Trump would have to know the Koran and have recited the Shahadda.  Since Trump doesn't even know the bible so I do not think it is a stretch to assume Trump is even more ignorant of the Koran.

[Emjay]

One bad apple does not a bushel make. He is deservedly in big trouble.

He is NOT representative of all Trump voters, who numbered high enough to win over 300 electoral votes.

Trump voters are good people, that want good things for their beloved country. Not just lofty words.

Speaking ill of Trump voters, is a mirror of Hillary's "deplorable" disrespect. Either way, is does no good.

So true and I am getting sick of it.  I didn't vote for Trump but blaming his supporters for everything is wrong .... and stupid.

[Applewood]

@truth_seeker
@TomSea

It appears that both of you are at least willing to admit that not all Trump supporters are as pure as the driven snow.  I've read/listened to Trump supporters call out liberals for issuing threats and causing violence against Trump supporters, but at the same time, act as if every Trump supporter is blameless.  They're not.  I know from personal experience, having been threatened by a Trump supporter on Facebook during the xampaign.  He said he was going to find out where I live, come to my house and kill me.   There are violent or potentially violent nutcase on all sides.

On the other hand I'm surrounded by liberals in real life who are still mourning Hillary's loss, but none of them would ever think to threaten or harm a Trump supporter.  You can't paint everyone in a group with the same broad brush. 

[Oceander]

One bad apple does not a bushel make. He is deservedly in big trouble.

He is NOT representative of all Trump voters, who numbered high enough to win over 300 electoral votes.

Trump voters are good people, that want good things for their beloved country. Not just lofty words.

Speaking ill of Trump voters, is a mirror of Hillary's "deplorable" disrespect. Either way, is does no good.

I have no doubt that most Trump voters wanted, and want, the best for their country.  That's not the problem.   The problem is they let themselves get conned by a gold-plated grifter. 

[Emjay]

Sorry, but Trump himself accused Cruz's father of murder and stated nasty things about his wife. Though Trump is not responsible for the actions of others, he is responsible for his actions lying about Cruz and his family and Trump is responsible for the viciousness and manner in which he went after them. Though the attacks were verbal,  that behavior signaled to his supporters that inappropriate behavior towards Cruz and his family is o.k.

No, I'm not saying that all Trump voters would display such behavior, but it is hard not to question the morality, thinking, and stability of those selecting someone with Trump's demeanor as their presidential nominee.

You know what?  Guess what?  You're exactly right and it's hard to put the things Trump said during the primaries in the box.  I still resent bitterly the things and lies he said about Cruz and, you will notice, the most ardent Trump supporters still hate Cruz... wonder why.

But Trump voters ... I think ... honestly thought he would be the best guy for the country and I refuse to condemn them all because that's just ridiculous.

[Emjay]

@truth_seeker
@TomSea

It appears that both of you are at least willing to admit that not all Trump supporters are as pure as the driven snow.  I've read/listened to Trump supporters call out liberals for issuing threats and causing violence against Trump supporters, but at the same time, act as if every Trump supporter is blameless.  They're not.  I know from personal experience, having been threatened by a Trump supporter on Facebook during the xampaign.  He said he was going to find out where I live, come to my house and kill me.   There are violent or potentially violent nutcase on all sides.

On the other hand I'm surrounded by liberals in real life who are still mourning Hillary's loss, but none of them would ever think to threaten or harm a Trump supporter.  You can't paint everyone in a group with the same broad brush.

You were unfortunate in your experiences on Facebook but I have to say, I'd be a lot more afraid of a crazed liberal than a crazed Trump supporter.

[Emjay]

@truth_seeker
@TomSea

It appears that both of you are at least willing to admit that not all Trump supporters are as pure as the driven snow.  I've read/listened to Trump supporters call out liberals for issuing threats and causing violence against Trump supporters, but at the same time, act as if every Trump supporter is blameless.  They're not.  I know from personal experience, having been threatened by a Trump supporter on Facebook during the xampaign.  He said he was going to find out where I live, come to my house and kill me.   There are violent or potentially violent nutcase on all sides.

On the other hand I'm surrounded by liberals in real life who are still mourning Hillary's loss, but none of them would ever think to threaten or harm a Trump supporter.  You can't paint everyone in a group with the same broad brush.

That is the difference between 'real life' and online life.  People say things online they would never say or do in person. 

[Cripplecreek]

When Trump cast out his lies about Cruz to his followers...

...he was doing exactly the same thing as a radical Imam casting out lies to incite his followers.

The real problem is that this story comes up amid a growing number of known Trump supporters openly stating that they no longer care about ideology, ethics or morality as long as they can stick it to the opposition.

They adopted Alinsky tactics and now Alinsky owns them. They couldn't stop if they tried.

[catfish1957]

You know what?  Guess what?  You're exactly right and it's hard to put the things Trump said during the primaries in the box.  I still resent bitterly the things and lies he said about Cruz and, you will notice, the most ardent Trump supporters still hate Cruz... wonder why.

But Trump voters ... I think ... honestly thought he would be the best guy for the country and I refuse to condemn them all because that's just ridiculous.

Same here.  Trump fanned the flames of hate during the election, and his most zealous supporters are still foaming at the mouth.

I have resigned myself to support Trump because of some of his positve actions.  However, that still does not hide the fact that I think he is A DESPICABLE PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!

[catfish1957]

That is the difference between 'real life' and online life.  People say things online they would never say or do in person.

I don't know.  I tell anyone who asks me, that Trump is a POS.

[AllThatJazzZ]

I wonder what his freeper name is.

 

I guffaw to keep from crying. It P.O.s me to no end that the people I walked in unison with when we were all Constitutional conservatives are now exhibiting all the behaviors we mocked and criticized when we saw the left behaving that way. I wish I could say it surprises me that some Trump nut would do such a thing, but it doesn't. I've seen the gnashing of teeth by Trumpsters who will not tolerate anything but complete loyalty to this faux conservative president we now have. It's damn scary!

I've been dissed, called profane names and accused of ugly things by Trumpsters who couldn't possibly have been more inaccurate. I've experienced it IRL and online and it's not pretty. My friends IRL (the ones who still speak to me) avoid me when Trump is acting a fool. At least they have enough integrity to refrain from looking me in the eye and trying to sling some B.S. that they don't even believe.

I may not actually call Trump a POS as @catfish1957 does, but I'm sure we can agree on one thing -- he stinks!

[thackney]

That is the difference between 'real life' and online life.  People say things online they would never say or do in person.

Too many do that.  I try to not make that mistake.

[GrouchoTex]

 I wish I could say it surprises me that some Trump nut would do such a thing, but it doesn't. I've seen the gnashing of teeth by Trumpsters who will not tolerate anything but complete loyalty to this faux conservative president we now have.

Part of the "Cult 45" crowd.

[HonestJohn]

I wouldn't say the 'same' thing.

I don't think Trump was inciting his followers to slaughter their political enemies because they are infidels deserving death according to their scriptures.

Even if a couple of them decided on their own that is what their leader wanted them to do.

Of course Taqiyya is perfectly acceptable if one is engaging in deceiving your enemies so you can slaughter them and subjugate them.

But then Trump would have to know the Koran and have recited the Shahadda.  Since Trump doesn't even know the bible so I do not think it is a stretch to assume Trump is even more ignorant of the Koran.

Read this:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/donald-trump-rally-violence-237302

Trump's own supporters are claiming Trump's words were the orders for their violence.