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You'll probably have to take a plane or ship somewhere along the way.

She recently had surgery and is now walking.

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She recently had surgery and is now walking.

Not this year. Can't afford this year. Besides, I don't have a passport, mine expired and I forgot to renew it.

I am doing my best to get to South Carolina this August to see the eclipse. Can't see it in totality from where I am. :(
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Re: Manchester Suicide Bombing
« Reply #377 on: May 24, 2017, 10:10:31 am »
Btw, CNN and Fox News are now reporting three more people have been arrested in regards to this attack.

Story breaking.
« Last Edit: May 24, 2017, 10:11:04 am by Freya »
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Re: Manchester Suicide Bombing
« Reply #378 on: May 24, 2017, 11:04:31 am »
About 20 years ago my daughter was on a class trip to London.  The kids were all using the underground when suddenly they were all hustled up to the street.  An IRA bomb threat.   So used to the constant bombings and threats the London-ers took it all calmly.   Not so much the students.
That said.......my son stationed in Germany for four years......during those days.......15 yrs.ago, the government showed NO patience whatsoever for anyone wanting to protest or march for something or other.  The government would  enter the main train station with batons and forced any loitering folks out of there and not gently either.  That authoritarian governing has slowly devolved....as we can all see the decline of all of the European countries, as well as our own.
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« Reply #379 on: May 24, 2017, 11:31:43 am »
Btw, CNN and Fox News are now reporting three more people have been arrested in regards to this attack.

Story breaking.


@Freya

Bring back public executions.  See "The Tudors" for suggestions on methods.

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Not this year. Can't afford this year. Besides, I don't have a passport, mine expired and I forgot to renew it.

I am doing my best to get to South Carolina this August to see the eclipse. Can't see it in totality from where I am. :(

Just to be sure you know, although Passports expire after 10 years, they can be renewed by mail within 15 years from original issue.

https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/passports/renew.html
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Just to be sure you know, although Passports expire after 10 years, they can be renewed by mail within 15 years from original issue.

https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/passports/renew.html

Oh hurray!!! thank you @thackney

I am going to get on this today.
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Re: Manchester Suicide Bombing
« Reply #382 on: May 24, 2017, 12:21:35 pm »
@Freya

Bring back public executions.  See "The Tudors" for suggestions on methods.

LOL. I’ve been to the Tower of London, and I do have a History minor. @CatherineofAragon

There have been nasty ways to go since mankind started. I’ve also watched a few episodes of shows on ID Discovery before they got way to graphic

Besides, I get the willies thinking of Madame DeFarge.
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Wimbledon follows later next month...
No one is going to blow up a tennis tourney.  :smokin:

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Re: Manchester Suicide Bombing
« Reply #384 on: May 24, 2017, 03:57:51 pm »

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« Reply #385 on: May 25, 2017, 01:02:21 am »
LOL. I’ve been to the Tower of London, and I do have a History minor. @CatherineofAragon

There have been nasty ways to go since mankind started. I’ve also watched a few episodes of shows on ID Discovery before they got way to graphic

Besides, I get the willies thinking of Madame DeFarge.

@Freya

I knew you would get what I was talking about, lol.

I read A Tale of Two Cities not too long ago.  She was terrifying.

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I got another email from him saying it is possible for an imminent attack and he will not be in central London for the next week.
That is good.  I know he does editing of film in a building in central London.  He lives outside central London.  He is an independent documentary film director so he doesn't have to go to a "day job".   The people who work for a company in London will have to chance it, and most use the underground for transportation to get to their jobs.  I feel for these people who have no choice, they have to go.

Freya, you know how crowded London is.

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They've ramped up the terror alert to critical.  I hope he can stay out until things settle down.

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Re: Manchester Suicide Bombing
« Reply #387 on: May 27, 2017, 02:57:50 am »
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Manchester attack: Chloe Rutherford and Liam Curry confirmed dead
    25 May 2017
    From the section Tyne & Wear


Relatives described Chloe Rutherford and Liam Curry as a devoted couple who enjoyed travelling



"At 14, he began fundraising for us after his granddad, Jack Allen, was diagnosed with cancer and he proudly completed a Coast to Coast cycle ride.

"Cruelly, his dad, Andrew Curry, was also diagnosed with cancer and died in March this year."



Liam Curry ran the Great North Run for the Sir Bobby Robson Foundation

Article: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-40040019

To me, she strikingly looks like Tiffany Trump in some pictures. So some of the sad parts of this whole story.  I'm sure she is in heaven now.
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Re: Manchester Suicide Bombing
« Reply #388 on: May 27, 2017, 03:15:48 am »
So, that young man's mother lost her father or FIL, her husband and now her son? 

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Re: Manchester Suicide Bombing
« Reply #389 on: May 27, 2017, 07:12:46 am »
Is it me, or does that couple look so young? Like teenagers?

Sigh. Another night of insomnia.

I hope they are together in heaven. Way too young to have died.

Btw, I read that Ariana Grande offered to pay for the costs of the funerals.
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Re: Manchester Suicide Bombing
« Reply #390 on: May 27, 2017, 11:02:55 am »
Is it me, or does that couple look so young? Like teenagers?

Sigh. Another night of insomnia.

I hope they are together in heaven. Way too young to have died.

Btw, I read that Ariana Grande offered to pay for the costs of the funerals.
I have little doubt the whole thing has affected her, too. These people had come to see her, after all, and even though she had nothing to do with their death, that's going to mess with her. The carnage is on the terrorists who did this, not on her, but somewhere deep down there is likely some survivor guilt going on.
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Re: Manchester Suicide Bombing
« Reply #391 on: May 28, 2017, 02:10:24 am »
I have little doubt the whole thing has affected her, too. These people had come to see her, after all, and even though she had nothing to do with their death, that's going to mess with her. The carnage is on the terrorists who did this, not on her, but somewhere deep down there is likely some survivor guilt going on.

As you know she was caught saying she hates America and Americans. She also has been bashing Trump over his restrictions on immigration. Hopefully her position has changed some on that front. I hope she overcomes this horrible tragedy and as you say it was not of her making.

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« Reply #392 on: May 28, 2017, 05:30:28 am »
As you know she was caught saying she hates America and Americans. She also has been bashing Trump over his restrictions on immigration. Hopefully her position has changed some on that front. I hope she overcomes this horrible tragedy and as you say it was not of her making.
I seriously hope it is a "Road to Damascus" moment for her. And, regardless of her politics, survivor guilt is a nasty SOB I wouldn't wish on anyone.
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Re: Manchester Suicide Bombing
« Reply #393 on: May 28, 2017, 05:51:37 am »
She's going back to Manchester to do a benefit gig. The letter to her fans is thoughtful - bout the only word to describe it. She's been pushing the Red Cross hard, and she has the sort of reach few can dream of.

She's done some growing up. Done alright, too.
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« Reply #394 on: May 28, 2017, 05:57:56 am »
And that benefit concert is already next weekend too; I thought I heard.

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« Reply #395 on: May 28, 2017, 05:59:13 am »
She's going back to Manchester to do a benefit gig. The letter to her fans is thoughtful - bout the only word to describe it. She's been pushing the Red Cross hard, and she has the sort of reach few can dream of.

She's done some growing up. Done alright, too.
Glad to see that, but what a hell of a way to get there.
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Re: Manchester Suicide Bombing
« Reply #396 on: May 28, 2017, 03:34:46 pm »
Grande offered to pay for the funerals of the murdered.  Somehow this has morphed into a concert that others will fund?
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heartbreak for Saffie's mum Tragic Saffie Roussos’ mum finally learns of daughter’s death after coming off life support following Manchester bomb blast that also injured her other child

Saffie, eight, was the youngest of 22 people killed in a rucksack bomb massacre at an Ariana Grande concert on May 22 in Manchester

By John Shammas
1st June 2017, 9:49 am
Updated: 1st June 2017, 10:53 am

Continued: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3696601/tragic-saffie-roussos-mum-finally-learns-of-daughters-death-after-coming-off-life-support-following-manchester-bomb-blast-that-also-injured-her-other-child/