Trump base shows signs of cracking

[Emjay]

I post on a lot of different topics every day. I will continue to do that, too, with you on ignore.

I trust you will post on every topic with the words sumpin' like if Trump would stop tweeting like an idiot all will be well in the world.

That is all I've ever seen you post.

[Frank Cannon]

@mystery-ak
Could you direct me to the guidelines for posting here at TBR? Are vulgarity and personal attacks permissible? I would appreciate clarification as to what's allowed and what isn't. Thanks.

Let me give you the guide lines.....

[geronl]

@mystery-ak
Could you direct me to the guidelines for posting here at TBR? Are vulgarity and personal attacks permissible? I would appreciate clarification as to what's allowed and what isn't. Thanks.

I get it all the time, they never got punished. I got suspended for responding.

[INVAR]

Let me give you the guide lines.....

Stuttering Tourettes.....

Who knew?

I thought Roman Maroni was the only known human case outside of the Simian Zoo in Amsterdam back in the 1930s?

[corbe]

   Trump's base was always cracked, in more ways than one, but we were constantly told He would heal the Divide and we would all live in harmony as one, again.  I guess some of us are just to damn stubborn and/or 'perfect' to get in the tent.

*carry on

[Mesaclone]

   Trump's base was always cracked, in more ways than one, but we were constantly told He would heal the Divide and we would all live in harmony as one, again.  I guess some of us are just to damn stubborn and/or 'perfect' to get in the tent.

*carry on

If you think any of us supporting Trump thought he would bring "harmony", you've misunderstood both him and us. The man is a wrecking ball, and that's why we voted for him. He's not going to go Bush and simply play the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" game. He's going to raise hell, take names and create disharmony...because that's what fighting back against an entrenched establishment, a Socialist Dem party, and a radically Left media requires. Anything less means certain defeat.

We may yet meet defeat as conservatives, and the Left may prevail in the end...and make no mistake, it will be the end. That's primarily because too many on the Right are unwilling to unite to fight the assault that we are under from these Lefty institutions...but hell, at least with President Trump we'll go down fighting. Too many of you think fighting back means stocking up on food and arms and hiding in a redoubt...but that's just another form of accepting defeat. The rest of us want to fight and save this country, and we voted for the only man offering to do so. In that battle, none of us are going to "crack" and surrender...so his base is entirely secure.

[EC]

As a wrecking ball his aim is terrible.

[Mesaclone]

As a wrecking ball his aim is terrible.

I'll grant that it's imperfect, but it beats swinging a feather boa. We've got a semi coming at us and you seem to want him to use a scalpel to stop it...I'll take the wrecking ball, as it at least has a chance to win that collision.

[roamer_1]

Anything less means certain defeat.

You are already defeated. You were defeated from the beginning, because you stand for nothing. The very definition of a Pyrrhic victory.

We may yet meet defeat as conservatives

As 'conservatives'?
 

The rest of us want to fight and save this country, and we voted for the only man offering to do so. In that battle, none of us are going to "crack" and surrender...so his base is entirely secure.

No, there were two. You picked poorly.

[roamer_1]

As a wrecking ball his aim is terrible.

There is no aim. There is no purpose. It stands upon *nothing*

[Emjay]

   Trump's base was always cracked, in more ways than one, but we were constantly told He would heal the Divide and we would all live in harmony as one, again.  I guess some of us are just to damn stubborn and/or 'perfect' to get in the tent.

*carry on

No one wants you in the tent.  I'm not even in the tent.  But could you stop throwing spitballs at the tent for ... maybe... an hour or so.

[Mesaclone]

You are already defeated. You were defeated from the beginning, because you stand for nothing. The very definition of a Pyrrhic victory.Only an arrogant fool would assert that others stand for nothing. I may..and do...stand for things with which you disagree (and likely many with which you do agree), but your assertion is more an indictment of your intellect than my principles.


As 'conservatives'?
  Yes, Conservatives


No, there were two. You picked poorly. Simply your opinion, and one that conservative voters dismissed at the ballot box

Ahhh...the old, I'm with Ted bitterness thing. Get over it. The man lost. I think Ted Cruz is a smart man with a bright future if he continues to support our president...as he has been doing...so I've no urge to bash him in any way. Clearly, the man is much smarter than yourself in choosing to support President Trump.

As for what I/we stand for...a strong defense, conservative justices, a strong immigration policy, strong foreign relations, taking the fight against Radical Islam to its source, unleashing free enterprise, dumping idiotic trade agreements that favor other nations. You may not like these things, but they are all areas in which President Trump is achieving great successes...albeit he is only 5 months in office.

I could simply follow your lead and do the "No...YOU stand for nothing" thing, but in lieu of that I'll simply adhere to a more mature form of refutation...something more apt to your intellect and maturity level..............................

[Cripplecreek]

   Trump's base was always cracked, in more ways than one, but we were constantly told He would heal the Divide and we would all live in harmony as one, again.  I guess some of us are just to damn stubborn and/or 'perfect' to get in the tent.

*carry on

A coworker told me the other day that he voted for Trump but hopes there will be someone else to vote for in 4 years.

The fact is that all the factions Trumpers bragged about voting for Trump are a lot harder to keep together now that the race is over. The neonazi scumbags are filtering away in anger over Trump continuing fights that aren't our own. Bruce Jenner who stood on the campaign stage with Trump warns there will be hell to pay if Trump doesn't give transgenders what they want. The unions are also warning Trump that he better give them their piece of the pie.

There is a reason TOS has to ban voices of dissent. They fear those voices spreading in their echo chamber.

[Mesaclone]

A coworker told me the other day that he voted for Trump but hopes there will be someone else to vote for in 4 years.

The fact is that all the factions Trumpers bragged about voting for Trump are a lot harder to keep together now that the race is over. The neonazi scumbags are filtering away in anger over Trump continuing fights that aren't our own. Bruce Jenner who stood on the campaign stage with Trump warns there will be hell to pay if Trump doesn't give transgenders what they want. The unions are also warning Trump that he better give them their piece of the pie.

There is a reason TOS has to ban voices of dissent. They fear those voices spreading in their echo chamber.

And when Hillary is the candidate again in 2020...or an idiot like Fauxcohantas...the folks will once again return home. Except the neonazis, who make up maybe .000001 of the electorate and who are not and never have been welcome in the Trump tent. As for Unions, he's bringing jobs, making massive defense production deals, bringing big company factories back to the cities, and turning on the free market and jacking up the economy...Union households will stick with Trump, regardless of what guys like Trumka want.

[corbe]

No one wants you in the tent.  I'm not even in the tent.  But could you stop throwing spitballs at the tent for ... maybe... an hour or so.

   @Emjay I though I was helping to put out the fire with my spitballs, good intentions and all....

[Cripplecreek]

[Emjay]

   @Emjay I though I was helping to put out the fire with my spitballs, good intentions and all....

If only .....

[INVAR]

The man is a wrecking ball, and that's why we voted for him. He's going to raise hell, take names and create disharmony...

You have your reward.

Enjoy the consequences.

[Mesaclone]

You have your reward.

Enjoy the consequences.

I am. Its been a pleasure to watch someone actually fight the Left...a rare thing.

[roamer_1]

No one wants you in the tent.  I'm not even in the tent.  But could you stop throwing spitballs at the tent for ... maybe... an hour or so.

The tent needs to be burned to the ground.

[roamer_1]

Ahhh...the old, I'm with Ted bitterness thing. Get over it. The man lost. I think Ted Cruz is a smart man with a bright future if he continues to support our president...as he has been doing...so I've no urge to bash him in any way. Clearly, the man is much smarter than yourself in choosing to support President Trump.

Nope. Not talking about Cruz at all. If that's what you got out of my post, then your reading is shallow in thought. I don't defend men. Men should defend themselves.

As for what I/we stand for...a strong defense, conservative justices, a strong immigration policy, strong foreign relations, taking the fight against Radical Islam to its source, unleashing free enterprise, dumping idiotic trade agreements that favor other nations. You may not like these things, but they are all areas in which President Trump is achieving great successes...albeit he is only 5 months in office.

No, really you don't. You defend the appearance thereof for the sake of 'winning'...
There isn't a single principled thing in any of it. Hence, whatever it is that you call 'success' today is false, and will not remain.

[Mesaclone]

Nope. Not talking about Cruz at all. So the 2nd person running who would fight back was....?If that's what you got out of my post, then your reading is shallow in thought. I don't defend men. Men should defend themselves. But apparently, god is in need of you to defend her, right?

No, really you don't. You defend the appearance thereof for the sake of 'winning'...
There isn't a single principled thing in any of it. Hence, whatever it is that you call 'success' today is false, and will not remain. I could say precisely the same of you, with every bit as much validity. But its just an assertion, with no reason or evidentiary support...you're simply stating what you want to believe. In other words, its the equivalent of "nanny, nanny, boo-boo". Quit being intellectually lazy.

For once, instead of just proclaiming you have principles and everyone else is a godless heathen...perhaps you should try....just try....no pressure...to make an argument that is based in reason and intellect. An argument that is logically conclusive, supported by some kind of evidence and can stand of its own rationale....or you could just stick to what you normally do. Up to you, of course, but it would be far more interesting if your argument was more than "blah, blah, blah, because god told me so, blah, blah, blah, heathens with no principles, blah, blah, blah Trump is an orange monkey, blah, blah, blah Amen!"

[roamer_1]

So the 2nd person running who would fight back was....?

Incidental. It is the principles he stood upon that matter, and a long record guaranteeing that his endorsement of those principles was not mere campaign promises.

But apparently, god is in need of you to defend her, right?

@mystery-ak , turn me loose.

I could say precisely the same of you, with every bit as much validity.

No, you cannot, actually.

make an argument that is based in reason and intellect. An argument that is logically conclusive, supported by some kind of evidence and can stand of its own rationale....

I have all the way along.

You will not get a roaring economy from a big-spending government. Diametrically opposed things.
You will not get a  smaller government from a NY city liberal - Also diametrically opposed - You will get more government, and more spending.
You will not get meaningful reduction in collusion from a crony capitalist.

You will not get meaningful, lasting peace without repentance.
You cannot reduce the welfare state without reducing bastard children and one parent households.
You cannot reduce crime without reducing the amount of young men without fathers.
You will not have honest reporting and statistics, or even reasonable science, without the re-establishment of honor and merit.

and on and on it goes.

[Mesaclone]

Incidental. It is the principles he stood upon that matter, and a long record guaranteeing that his endorsement of those principles was not mere campaign promises. Yet your ashamed to say who he is. Classic.

@mystery-ak , turn me loose. Oooh. Scary.

No, you cannot, actually. I can and did.

I have all the way along. Its cute that you think you have.

Here's a clue. Your principles, are not the only principles. Your principles, are not more godly or more ethical or better than anyone else on this board. Your denial of that basic truth is symptomatic of the death of civil discourse in this country and a huge part of why people can no longer disagree without declaring others to be evil. This is the primary tactic of the socialist Left....in their minds...they are right in their principles and anyone who disagrees is evil or a fool...and likely, both. Its the opposite of the intention of the FF's that we have civil disagreement and rational discourse. Just very unfortunate.

[roamer_1]

This is the primary tactic of the socialist Left....they are right in their principles and anyone who disagrees is evil or a fool...

Physician, heal thyself.