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Although Donald Trump has signed a pledge to support the Republican Party’s nominee, that doesn’t mean the party’s establishment will support him, should he win the GOP presidential nod.

A report by the Hill suggests the big money Republican donors are actually looking to support Hillary Clinton for commander in chief if Trump is at the top of the GOP ticket. Yes, the Democrat Hillary Clinton could be getting millions of dollars from Republicans.

The website says: “In conversations over the past month, GOP establishment donors have confided to the Hill that for the first time in recent memory, they find themselves contemplating not supporting a Republican nominee for president.”


When asked for whom he would cast his vote if the choices are only Mrs. Clinton and Trump, the former mayor of Los Angeles and a longtime Republican establishment figure, Dick Riordan, said: “I would probably go find a deserted island.”

“I think Hillary is disgusting,” Riordan told the Hill. “And I think Trump is crazy.”

The paper says Trump was the topic at a recent Beverly Hills lunch hosted by former U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Rockwell Schnabel.

In attendance in a private dining room of the Hotel Bel-Air were powerful donors said to include Ronald Spogli, the venture capitalist and former ambassador to Italy under President George W. Bush; his business partner Bradford Freeman; and Riordan.

The donors reportedly faced the hypothetical question: “If it was Donald Trump running against Hillary Clinton, who would you vote for?”

The Hill reports:

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One version has it that most of the Republicans at the table put their hands up for Clinton.

Schnabel disputes that account and said in a telephone interview Tuesday that it was just banter among friends and that he is confident that all the Republicans at the table would support the final GOP nominee for president, whomever that turns out to be.

Schnabel called back later on Tuesday afternoon to clarify what he meant. “My only caveat would be that … I assume that the Republican we’ll nominate will be somebody that would make a great president,” he said. “That’s not a conversation we’ve had to have in the past, but obviously there are some we would be concerned about.”

The hesitation among establishment GOP donors comes as no surprise to Corey Lewandowski, Trump’s campaign manager.

The GOP establishment will do anything they can to stop Mr. Trump from being the GOP nominee,” Lewandowski told the Hill.


Not all big GOP donors, though, are sour on the New York businessman.

Billionaire investor Carl Icahn and Doug Manchester, a California developer and chairman of Manchester Financial Group, are among those in Trump’s corner.

“I met with Donald himself and was again very impressed with a Man [sic] who does not have to be doing what he is but believes as I do that we need to Make America great again and believe he can do it!!” Manchester wrote to friends in an email seen by the Hill.

“As all of you know I was all in for Mitt but unfortunately he did not make it!!”

“I think Trump can win,” Manchester added.

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Re: RINOS UNITE! - GOP Establishment to back Hillary if Trump nominee
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2015, 07:26:36 am »
Whirled Nut Daily once again shows why they are not ready to be taken seriously as a source of news.  To back up the ridiculous title they quote “I think Hillary is disgusting,” Riordan told the Hill. “And I think Trump is crazy.”(both true but not an indication Riordan will vote for Hitlery) and an out right denial by Ronald Spogli.

The interesting question is why is Corey Lewandowski, Trump’s campaign manager pushing this story?

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Re: RINOS UNITE! - GOP Establishment to back Hillary if Trump nominee
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2015, 12:02:23 pm »

Doug Manchester has the best point, in my opinion. Trump's detractors are satisfied to say Trump is running for president as an act of vanity. Nothing is further from the truth. Without running, Trump is already living the life of a king. Why subject himself to the rigors of a campaign, or the public beating/trashing/character assassination that comes with a political race? Plus, he continues to run his empire while running for office. Talk about time management skills!

Trump has had an interest in politics for nearly two decades. He decided to enter the race now because he believes he can make a difference and has selflessly volunteered himself for public service. There are more rewarding ways for a successful man with personal wealth rivaling several small nations to move into his golden years. Trump doesn't need this.

In my opinion, Trump has chosen the harder road and for all the right reasons.

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Re: RINOS UNITE! - GOP Establishment to back Hillary if Trump nominee
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2015, 12:55:07 pm »
....or...the GOPe is trying to strong arm Trump supporters not to vote for him for fear if they do, Hillary will be elected.  Vote your conscious everyone; vote for whom you think will make the best president.   :patriot:
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Re: RINOS UNITE! - GOP Establishment to back Hillary if Trump nominee
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2015, 01:10:53 pm »
If this is true, it just confirms the real ties between the GOPe and the Dems.... who cares about the voters...

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Re: RINOS UNITE! - GOP Establishment to back Hillary if Trump nominee
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2015, 01:30:48 pm »
In doing a "google" search, there are several news sources citing the same.  Although Limbaugh's comments were in reference to a budget deal and Cruz, he had predicted that the GOPe  would throw support towards Hillary over a month ago. So...it's going to be a long shot, but perhaps this is why Trump has stated he would run 3rd party?? He had also spoken of making Cruz his running mate, but I'm not so sure he could convince Cruz to leave the GOP. 

..."“I have the idea they would be happier with Hillary Clinton as president than Ted Cruz, and that’s not a feeling,” Limbaugh said. “I know that almost for a fact.  I know that with almost ontological certitude. They, as members of the inside-the-Beltway establishment, no way, no how do they want anybody like Ted Cruz in the White House.

“They would much prefer Hillary,” he added. “The only thing that explains this, looked at in any kind of prism of common sense, is that there is a combined bipartisan effort to finally render conservatives and conservatism as irrelevant as a pockmark.”

http://conservativetribune.com/rush-bombshell-gop-hillary/
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2015, 01:52:59 pm »
Doug Manchester has the best point, in my opinion. Trump's detractors are satisfied to say Trump is running for president as an act of vanity. Nothing is further from the truth. Without running, Trump is already living the life of a king. Why subject himself to the rigors of a campaign, or the public beating/trashing/character assassination that comes with a political race? Plus, he continues to run his empire while running for office. Talk about time management skills!

Trump has had an interest in politics for nearly two decades. He decided to enter the race now because he believes he can make a difference and has selflessly volunteered himself for public service. There are more rewarding ways for a successful man with personal wealth rivaling several small nations to move into his golden years. Trump doesn't need this.

In my opinion, Trump has chosen the harder road and for all the right reasons.

What astounds me is that you actually, probably, believe this.

Most Americans would never put "Trump" and "selfless" in the same sentence.

And you say Trump "doesn't need this."  Of course he needs it.  His ego needs it. A billionaire who is now king of the world? 
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2015, 02:25:26 pm »
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The GOP establishment will do anything they can to stop Mr. Trump from being the GOP nominee,” Lewandowski told the Hill.

It isn't just Trump and that "anything" includes helping Hillary if that's what it takes to preserve the inside the beltway game as it currently is!  Not news to members of this forum as I told you this a long time ago!
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Re: RINOS UNITE! - GOP Establishment to back Hillary if Trump nominee
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2015, 02:30:50 pm »
What astounds me is that you actually, probably, believe this.

Most Americans would never put "Trump" and "selfless" in the same sentence.

And you say Trump "doesn't need this."  Of course he needs it.  His ego needs it. A billionaire who is now king of the world?

You're engaged in thought experiment. Nothing factual to back it up. I did however preface my comments with 'in my opinion'.

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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2015, 02:43:17 pm »
You're engaged in thought experiment. Nothing factual to back it up. I did however preface my comments with 'in my opinion'.

When it comes to Trump, there is very little that's factual.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2015, 02:46:44 pm »
When it comes to Trump sinkspur, there is very little that's factual.

Fixed it for you!
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2015, 03:12:12 pm »
Whatever happened to 'Sit down, shut up, vote as you're told, we must be unified to win'?  Apparently we've stumbled down another of those one way streets that seem to be loved by the GOPe.

What these big business Republicans want is all the socialism (plus an occasional war) that benefits their businesses, but yet they don't want Hillary because she might hurt or even take their business. In otherwards total self-interest and nothing else.

Unless it seems the nominated Republican isn't to their liking, then they go with Hillary anyway.
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2015, 03:19:49 pm »
For all you Trump-phobes.......

Just curious.  Did it move?    :smokin:


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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2015, 04:00:50 pm »
It isn't just Trump and that "anything" includes helping Hillary if that's what it takes to preserve the inside the beltway game as it currently is!  Not news to members of this forum as I told you this a long time ago!

DITTO and TRUMP has been running 3rd party the whole time. RIONGOP and the DEMS are and have been the party of ONE for along time. They are deathly afraid of TRUMP and CRUZ and will do anything to preserve they PARTY of ONE which will include assassination which is probably on the table and there money status over the peasants called the AMERICAN People. :patriot:

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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2015, 04:06:49 pm »
Assassination?

 **nononono*
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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2015, 04:17:19 pm »
Fixed it for you!

When it comes to  sinkspur, there is very little that's factual.

 :beer:  Thank you!  Someone finally said it.
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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2015, 05:16:17 pm »
For all you Trump-phobes.......

Just curious.  Did it move?    :smokin:

 :laugh:

Truthfully, there is so much more heat than light being expelled at this political moment that I don't sense anything really "moving" at all, other than jaws and mandibles.

In the early going, which is to say, in this silly pre-primary season, what tends to happen is that presumptive candidates are not "vetted" by others so much as the end up vetting themselves, most often by means of what comes out of their mouths in splendidly unguarded moments.

To the true Political Junkie, "gotcha" questions are never as much fun as unforced errors, such as when Hillary(->) claimed to have been named after a great adventurer whose name was virtually unknown until 6 years after her birth, when he bravely mounted one of the few remaining spots on earth that remains to this day unmounted by her future husband.

Likewise, I find it amusing whenever Jeb Bush tries to sound vital, confident and useful, as though he were auditioning for the role of Fredo Corleone. Never takes sides against the family again, Jeb. Hey: wanna go fishing?

Or when Bernie Sanders tries to explain the evils and excesses of capitalism to an audience of Manhattan trust fund millionaires dining on fois gras, lobster and Kobe beef. 

Or for that matter, when Donald Trump makes fun of a disabled guy and then denies having done it, like Richard Pryor used to do when caught cheating on his wife: "Who you gonna believe, woman: me or yo' lying eyes?"

None of it really matters yet, so my advice for everyone here is to take deep breaths and relax. Chill. Enjoy the holidays and your families. Eschew the ad hominem attacks on fellow Republicans and instead embrace the perverse entertainment of watching Robbin' Obama and his band of Not-So-Merry-Persons-of-Indeterminate-Gender lead America downhill on a toboggan sled to Hell. 

Next year, we will eventually come to some semblance of agreement about who will lead the parade.

Why? Just look at the alternative. But not for too long.
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Re: RINOS UNITE! - GOP Establishment to back Hillary if Trump nominee
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2015, 05:29:50 pm »
I have very big doubts that World Nut Daily has any inside information, about what the many and diverse components of the "GOP establishment" will do.

From personal experience I know the big money sources, like company employee PACs spread their money between many and various candidates. That way no matter who wins, presumably they still get a seat at the table, influence wise. IOW your phone call gets answered.

I think articles like this are written to stir up their narrow niche of readers, by feeding them ideas they like to hear, but for which they offer zero proof.

IOW a headline without proof in the body of the article. A "made up" article. For gullible readers.

People that are in denials they are being manipulated, are nevertheless being manipulated.





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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2015, 08:19:55 pm »
Pretty sad that people believe anything from Worldnut Daily.
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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2015, 08:24:37 pm »
Pretty sad that people believe anything from Worldnut Daily.
I rarely read anything from them. I always scroll down to see the link before I read any article on these nets.


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« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2015, 08:39:25 pm »
DITTO and TRUMP has been running 3rd party the whole time. RIONGOP and the DEMS are and have been the party of ONE for along time. They are deathly afraid of TRUMP and CRUZ and will do anything to preserve they PARTY of ONE which will include assassination which is probably on the table and there money status over the peasants called the AMERICAN People. :patriot:

I usually ignore your incoherent tripe, but this is so far beyond the pale that it should be removed from the thread.
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« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2015, 09:14:06 pm »
It isn't just Trump and that "anything" includes helping Hillary if that's what it takes to preserve the inside the beltway game as it currently is!  Not news to members of this forum as I told you this a long time ago!

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« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2015, 10:55:39 pm »
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What has the BUSH / CLINTON / BUSH / CLINTON globalist Elitist cycle done for this nation?

A: DESTROYED IT


You mean how GW Bush formed the North American Union???
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« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2015, 11:59:26 pm »
Assassination?

 **nononono*

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