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Senate approves two-year budget deal in 3 a.m. vote
« on: October 30, 2015, 12:55:14 pm »
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/258629-senate-approves-budget-deal-in-overnight-vote

October 30, 2015, 02:55 am
Senate approves two-year budget deal in 3 a.m. vote

By Jordain Carney
 

The Senate passed a two-year budget deal that raises the debt ceiling early Friday morning, sending the agreement to President Obama's desk.
 
The deal was approved in a 64-35 vote after 3 a.m. after a late speech by Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who criticized the legislation as a blank check for President Obama to add to the nation's debt.
 
"Both sides of the aisle have what I would call sacred cows. On the right, they have the sacred cow of military contracts. ...The left wants more welfare," he said, adding, "Should we give Congress more money? Hell no.
 
Few other senators seemed interested in Paul's speech, as the presiding officer repeatedly had to ask senators to keep their conversations down so that Paul could speak.
 
Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) tweeted her dissatisfaction, arguing the GOP presidential candidate was simply seeking attention for his campaign.
 
"Senate &staff all here at 1:55 am so that Pres candidate Rand Paul can send tweet out telling fans to watch him," she said.
 
Thirty-five Republicans opposed the deal, including Sens. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) and Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), who are facing tough reelection battles in blue-leaning states next year.
 
The legislation clears the calendar of major fiscal fights, including funding the government, until after the 2016 elections that will see Republicans defending 24 Senate seats.
 
The bill also drew strong pushback from conservative senators, who suggested leadership caved on the debt ceiling, negotiated in secret and tried to push the legislation through Congress on an expedited schedule.
 
“The bill is the product of an unfair, dysfunctional, and undemocratic process — a process that is virtually indistinguishable from what we promised the American people a G.O.P.-controlled Congress would bring to an end,” Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) said from the Senate floor.
 
He added that the legislation “represents the last gasping breath of a disgraced bipartisan beltway establishment on the verge of collapse.”
 
Lee and Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) circulated a letter ahead of the vote asking that their colleagues join them in rejecting the deal.
 
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) was the only GOP presidential contender to vote for the package. Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) all voted against it.
 
The Senate’s action on the agreement comes after House lawmakers passed the deal 266-167, including the support of 79 Republicans.
 
The package was a final legislative victory for outgoing House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), who officially submitted his resignation on Thursday.
 
It also gives new Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) breathing room as he settles in to the House's top spot, by allowing him to avoid what had been a looming Nov. 3 deadline to pass a debt bill and mid-December deadline fund the government.
 
The deal suspends the limit on borrowing until March 16, 2017, leaving the next fight to Obama’s successor. It also raises spending levels above the 2011 Budget Control Act, increasing funding by $80 billion through September 2017.
 
It also includes changes to entitlement programs, including avoiding a premium hike for many Medicare enrollees and bolstering funding for Social Security’s disability trust fund.
 
With the deal headed to Obama’s desk — where he’s expected to sign it — lawmakers will now turn their attention to passing either 12 individual spending bills or one large omnibus bill.
 
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) tried to move spending bills earlier this year, but he was blocked by Democrats who wanted a larger budget deal.
 
Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) pledged that his party would cooperate going forward, as long as Republicans don’t “mess up” the appropriations process.
 
“We'll be happy to support next year individual appropriations bills coming to the floor. We don't need motions to proceed," he said from the Senate floor.
 
"We'll be happy to move the bill as long as we get rid of those vexatious riders that have nothing to do with the bill brought before us."
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Re: Senate approves two-year budget deal in 3 a.m. vote
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2015, 12:56:55 pm »
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/258594-budget-deal-winners-and-losers
Budget deal: Winners and losers

 By Peter Schroeder - 10/30/15 03:04 AM EDT

Congress agreed early Friday morning to pass a two-year budget deal that raises funding levels and suspends the debt limit until 2017. The last-minute accord marked one of the last achievements of outgoing Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), and draws the curtain on the fiscal fights that were central to President Obama’s feud with congressional Republicans.
 
Here are the winners and losers from this latest round:
 
WINNERS
 
Former Speaker Boehner
 
Boehner’s top priority after announcing his resignation was to “clean the barn” for his successor. And despite long odds, he managed to get a whole lot out of that barn with this budget deal. The two-year deal sets top-line funding numbers for lawmakers, and also deals with the debt limit until March 2017. Throw in the fact that the deal has a few tweaks to entitlement programs and ObamaCare, and it’s not a shabby send-off for Boehner.
 
New Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.)
 
Ryan deliberately steered clear of the budget talks, but the new Speaker’s life got much easier when the deal was struck. The budget pact puts to bed a number of contentious fiscal fights, giving Ryan a long runway to get up to speed as the House’s new leader. While Ryan decried the closed-door talks that led to the budget deal, he ultimately voted for it. And now he does not have to worry about a budget fight or debt limit feud for quite a while.
 
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.)

The budget deal is also a feather in McConnell’s cap. Eager to retain his majority in the Senate, McConnell, in striking the early accord, erased the chance of nasty fiscal fights that could wreak havoc on Republican reputations in the middle of a tight 2016 campaign.
 
President Obama/Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.)/Harry Reid (D-Nev.)
 
Democrats went into budget negotiations with a specific goal in mind: lift the spending caps set by the sequester. And they got it. The final budget deal of Obama’s presidency pushed government funding above those spending caps, while removing the debt limit as a hurdle to clear for the rest of his time in office.

The final package avoided any major changes to entitlement programs, and garnered unanimous support among House Democrats.
 
Defense hawks
 
Defense hawks and the Pentagon were eager to dodge sequester cuts yet again, and got a break in the budget deal. Defense spending jumps $40 billion in the budget, on top of another $32 billion to cover military operations abroad that falls outside budget limits via the Overseas Contingency Operations (OCO) fund.
 
Medicare/social security

Roughly one-third of Medicare enrollees dodged a 52-percent premium hike thanks to the budget deal, which includes a loan from the federal government paid by future premium hikes. And Social Security’s disability trust fund got a much-needed cash infusion as well. That fund would have gone dry next year and enrollees were facing steep cuts, but a slice of the payroll tax as part of the budget deal helps shore it up.
 
Appropriators
 
The budget deal gives congressional appropriators the ability to do something that they often miss: appropriate. Setting top-line numbers for the next two years gives members of the House and Senate Appropriations committees the chance to craft funding bills that go beyond short-term continuing resolutions to avert government shutdowns. And Speaker Ryan’s commitment to regular order improves the odds that the regular appropriations process could be making a comeback.


 
LOSERS
 
Hedge funds and private equity firms
 
Large partnerships like hedge funds and private equity firms were losers in the final budget deal, as one of the major offsets in the package will lead to heightened IRS scrutiny for that sector. Roughly $11 billion of the package is paid for by making it easier for the government to audit large partnerships. Previously, tax rules made it almost impossibly complex to audit large partnerships, but that process is now streamlined, making it easier for the tax man to come calling.
 
Conservatives/House Freedom Caucus
 
Conservatives wanted Congress to stick to the sequester spending caps, and hated seeing budget deals hammered out in private by just a handful of policymakers. But at the end of the day, Congress ended up passing a bill that exceeded previously set spending caps that was negotiated by a handful of congressional leaders and the White House.

The budget deal went from being unveiled to passage in just a matter of days, and while plenty of Republicans ended up opposing it, the deal never faced any significant threat of derailment. The question for conservatives now is whether that budget deal was the last gasp of the Boehner Era, or a sign of more to come.
 
Budget hawks
 
Budget hawks were dismayed to see a budget deal come together that busted previously agreed upon spending caps. They decried what they saw as a host of gimmicks meant to cover the extra $80 billion in spending, not to mention an extra $32 billion in Overseas Contingency Operations fund, which, falling outside budget caps, policymakers did not even try to offset.

The deal also includes some other policy tweaks to boost offsets, such an overly optimistic outlook on how much could be made selling oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, and the “pension smoothing,” which allows Congress to count inflated revenues in the near term by tallying lower revenues years down the road.
 
Hospitals/drug companies/ObamaCare
 
The budget deal’sb ultimate price tag came to rest partially on the back of the health care sector. The deal includes a 2-percent cut in Medicare provider payments, and also prevents hospitals from buying up off-site locations as a way to increase pricier outpatient services that are covered by Medicare.

Furthermore, generic drug makers are now required to pay an additional rebate under Medicaid if drug costs grow outpace inflation — name brand drugs already have to pay that rebate.

Another $8 billion of the budget is paid for by killing a yet-to-be-enforced part of ObamaCare that would have required large employers to automatically enroll new employees in health plans.

Outside conservative groups 


It was a rough stretch for outside conservative groups that have frequently worked to flex muscle in the Capitol. Heritage Action and Club for Growth joined forces to blast the budget accord as it drifted away from spending caps — and put lawmakers on notice that they were watching the vote. But it ultimately was for naught.

To add insult to injury, just days before the budget passed, more than half of the House's Republicans joined with Democrats to move a bill reauthorizing the Export-Import Bank. Forcing that bank's charter to expire had been a major coup for the conservative movement, which has dismissed the government agency as corporate cronyism. But the leadership shakeup gave Ex-Im backers the chance to move on a rare discharge petition, circumventing leadership opposition and bringing the bill up for a floor vote. Ex-Im's fate is still up in the air in the Senate, but vehement conservative opposition to its renewal in the House gave way to a reauthorization vote that garnered 313 'yeas.'
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Re: Senate approves two-year budget deal in 3 a.m. vote
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2015, 12:56:59 pm »
I'm surprised they even got a 3AM quorum. There must have been a lot of deal making going on.

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Re: Senate approves two-year budget deal in 3 a.m. vote
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2015, 01:06:45 pm »
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/258633-cruz-budget-deal-the-cartel-in-all-of-its-glory

October 29, 2015, 09:43 pm
Cruz: Budget deal the 'cartel in all of its glory'

By Jordain Carney

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) on Thursday evening slammed a two-year budget agreement hours before an expected vote, suggesting it was the "cartel in all of its glory."
 
"It is difficult to find a better illustration of the Washington cartel than the charade we are engaged in this evening," he said, speaking from the Senate floor for more than an hour. "This represents the cartel in all of its glory."
 
He added that the two-year budget deal — which also increases the debt ceiling — is both "shockingly bad" on policy but also "a manifestation of the bipartisan corruption that suffuses Washington, D.C."
 
Cruz's remarks come as the Senate is headed for a 1 a.m. procedural vote on the agreement, potentially paving the way for a final vote in the early hours of Friday morning. It's unclear how long the Texas Republican plans to speak from the floor, but the Senate is scheduled to adjourn as late as 11:55 p.m., before coming back into session at 12:01 a.m.
 
According to the Congressional Budget Office, the deal would result in net deficit cuts by approximately $35 billion in 2025, but Cruz suggested those cuts would never happen.
 
"Nobody in this chamber believes that. Nobody in the House of Representatives believes that. No member of the press believes that. Everybody understands this is a lie. It is an agreed-to lie by everyone," he added from the Senate floor.
 
The Texas Republican, who is running for president, is part of a growing number of Senate Republicans who are expected to vote against the deal.
 
While the legislation is expected to ultimately pass, it's earned hard pushback from conservative Republicans, who suggest leadership caved on the debt ceiling and negotiated the deal in secret.
 
Cruz added that Senate Republicans are agreeing to remove a key fiscal fight — increasing the debt ceiling — until after President Obama leaves office.
 
"He'll never have to worry about it again," he said. "It says to the president, you can add whatever debt you like for the remainder of the term with no constraint from this body."
 
The Texas senator has repeatedly criticized Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Senate leadership since Republicans took over the majority in January, playing into the anti-Washington narrative at the center of his presidential campaign.
 
He took another shot at McConnell during Thursday's speech, calling him "the most effective Democratic leader we've seen in modern times."
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2015, 01:32:03 pm »

Anyone still believe "...of the people, by the people, and for the people..." anymore?

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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2015, 02:38:18 pm »
Anyone still believe "...of the people, by the people, and for the people..." anymore?

Mitch McConnell is  a democrat in everything but name!


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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2015, 02:41:59 pm »
Anyone still believe "...of the people, by the people, and for the people..." anymore?


Exactly.  I think the majority of us have known that we are in for the fight of our lives.

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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2015, 02:52:22 pm »
Mitch McConnell is  a democrat in everything but name!



Can't say RINO on here or the RINOS get POed  :beer:

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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2015, 02:59:55 pm »
Can't say RINO on here or the RINOS get POed  :beer:

They will be hard to find for a day or two! There is no way for even them to defend this S#$%!
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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2015, 04:18:31 pm »
Anyone still believe "...of the people, by the people, and for the people..." anymore?

I do. But I am increasingly sobered by what We, The People will likely have to do to restore that condition.
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2015, 04:23:11 pm »
I do. But I am increasingly sobered by what We, The People will likely have to do to restore that condition.

Perhaps we ought to at least TRY this before we get there!

http://www.conventionofstates.com/
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2015, 05:18:13 pm »
Perhaps we ought to at least TRY this before we get there!

http://www.conventionofstates.com/
I appreciate the thought. But I see a major problem with that strategy in that I doubt you could get 34 state legislatures to approve of such a resolution, much less 38 to ratify an amendment limiting Federal power. 
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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2015, 05:20:10 pm »
I appreciate the thought. But I see a major problem with that strategy in that I doubt you could get 34 state legislatures to approve of such a resolution, much less 38 to ratify an amendment limiting Federal power.

Still it's worth a try before we resort to the only other option remaining.
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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2015, 05:39:06 pm »
Still it's worth a try before we resort to the only other option remaining.

Oh, I'm all for trying to make it happen. But I'm good enough at math to know it's a long shot.
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2015, 01:33:14 am »
How about this simple amendment to the Constitution:
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The hours of business of the Senate and of the House of Representatives shall be from 9.00am until 8.00pm Mondays through Fridays.
No legislation from the Congress of The United States will be permitted under this Constitution unless it is passed within these times.

No single act of law of the Congress of The United States shall exceed 35 pages in length.

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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2015, 01:53:08 am »
Looks like Rand Paul's filibuster lasted 20 minutes.
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