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Re: Never Trumpers Illustrate Why Loyalty Is An Important Political Virtue
« Reply #75 on: March 17, 2021, 07:42:19 pm »
Religion based.

No, that's socialism.   Can't be a socialist if you don't believe in the cult of socialism.

Can be a conservative and an atheist.  Works just fine.   They have their god, I don't.   That works because the First Amendment is about freedom, not religion.
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Re: Never Trumpers Illustrate Why Loyalty Is An Important Political Virtue
« Reply #76 on: March 17, 2021, 07:45:47 pm »
I'm refusing to vote because from my view point the last election was stolen; planned on by both sides of the fence. So, why cast a vote when the ballot box is clearly nothing more than a magic box that belongs strictly to the leftists?

Because you're letting your enemies win without even trying to stop them.

I live in California.   I live in Maxine Waters' district.   Over the last 30 years I've had almost no representation at any level of government, ever, and still I vote.   

Okay, I vote, if for no other reason California puts the loopiest propositions on the ballot that need to voted down, but I would still vote regardless because it's my duty as a citizen to exercise that right.

Stop surrendering.
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Re: Never Trumpers Illustrate Why Loyalty Is An Important Political Virtue
« Reply #77 on: March 17, 2021, 07:47:57 pm »
That ain't the point.  Did you vote for him as president or not?

If you want to make points, you need to craft your questions to get to the point.

Now you've finally asked a pointed question, and the answer is, no.  I live in California and even if I had corrupted myself by voting for McStain, he wouldn't have gotten CA's electoral college votes.

I voted for Palin, hoping that in off chance the Illegal Alien was rejected, the Other Traitor would die quickly.

I liked Palin.

You do realize you asked who I voted FOR, don't you?
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Re: Never Trumpers Illustrate Why Loyalty Is An Important Political Virtue
« Reply #78 on: March 17, 2021, 07:57:36 pm »
Because you're letting your enemies win without even trying to stop them.

I live in California.   I live in Maxine Waters' district.   Over the last 30 years I've had almost no representation at any level of government, ever, and still I vote.   

Okay, I vote, if for no other reason California puts the loopiest propositions on the ballot that need to voted down, but I would still vote regardless because it's my duty as a citizen to exercise that right.

Stop surrendering.


How is not voting because there IS no conservative candidate surrendering?  Surrendering is giving into voting for the lesser of two evils.

I could NOT vote for McCain and obviously not for B.O. so I voted third party, which resulted in 8 years of B.O.  I voted for who I felt was the best candidate to move this country in a positive direction.  I've always voted that way.

However, from this point forward I will ONLY vote for a conservative.  Not just for someone who may be a tad more conservative then the liberal choice, because the results will be the same as they're all from the same country club.

We either somehow build from the local/state level on up or completely wipe out the existing regime.  Building from the top down will not work.
 
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Re: Never Trumpers Illustrate Why Loyalty Is An Important Political Virtue
« Reply #79 on: March 17, 2021, 08:01:57 pm »
I voted for Palin

 :silly: :silly: :silly:

I rest my case.

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Re: Never Trumpers Illustrate Why Loyalty Is An Important Political Virtue
« Reply #80 on: March 17, 2021, 08:10:41 pm »
If you want to make points, you need to craft your questions to get to the point.

Now you've finally asked a pointed question, and the answer is, no.  I live in California and even if I had corrupted myself by voting for McStain, he wouldn't have gotten CA's electoral college votes.

I voted for Palin, hoping that in off chance the Illegal Alien was rejected, the Other Traitor would die quickly.

I liked Palin.

You do realize you asked who I voted FOR, don't you?

LOL!  @roamer_1 can't stand Palin....
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Re: Never Trumpers Illustrate Why Loyalty Is An Important Political Virtue
« Reply #81 on: March 17, 2021, 08:13:31 pm »
:silly: :silly: :silly:

I rest my case.

.hmmm.....I didn't realize that she was on top of the ticket.  :whistle:                     
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Re: Never Trumpers Illustrate Why Loyalty Is An Important Political Virtue
« Reply #82 on: March 17, 2021, 08:21:11 pm »
.hmmm.....I didn't realize that she was on top of the ticket.  :whistle:                     

I liked Palin until she demonstrated a ridiculous loyalty to McCain, after he screwed, blued and tattooed her.  That's when I decided she's the "abused spouse" type.  Todd probably beat that into her.
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Re: Never Trumpers Illustrate Why Loyalty Is An Important Political Virtue
« Reply #83 on: March 17, 2021, 08:32:37 pm »
I liked Palin until she demonstrated a ridiculous loyalty to McCain, after he screwed, blued and tattooed her.  That's when I decided she's the "abused spouse" type.  Todd probably beat that into her.

I was really surprised that she accepted to be his VP.  I lost all interest in her at that point.
Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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Re: Never Trumpers Illustrate Why Loyalty Is An Important Political Virtue
« Reply #84 on: March 17, 2021, 08:34:36 pm »
.hmmm.....I didn't realize that she was on top of the ticket.  :whistle:                     

I know, right? Must have got one by me.  :whistle:

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Re: Never Trumpers Illustrate Why Loyalty Is An Important Political Virtue
« Reply #85 on: March 17, 2021, 08:35:44 pm »
LOL!  @roamer_1 can't stand Palin....

Actually, I like her fine... She's my kind, bar fights and all. I just won't vote for her.

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Re: Never Trumpers Illustrate Why Loyalty Is An Important Political Virtue
« Reply #86 on: March 17, 2021, 08:41:51 pm »
Actually, I like her fine... She's my kind, bar fights and all. I just won't vote for her.

Bristol's bar parking lots were cool!  She's a hottie, even if her taste in men sux.
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Re: Never Trumpers Illustrate Why Loyalty Is An Important Political Virtue
« Reply #87 on: March 17, 2021, 08:42:07 pm »
I liked Palin until she demonstrated a ridiculous loyalty to McCain, after he screwed, blued and tattooed her.  That's when I decided she's the "abused spouse" type.  Todd probably beat that into her.

Yeah, there is that too.

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Re: Never Trumpers Illustrate Why Loyalty Is An Important Political Virtue
« Reply #88 on: March 17, 2021, 08:42:52 pm »
Bristol's bar parking lots were cool!  She's a hottie, even if her taste in men sux.

Yeah... That's my kind too.  :silly:

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Re: Never Trumpers Illustrate Why Loyalty Is An Important Political Virtue
« Reply #89 on: March 17, 2021, 10:00:56 pm »
LOL!  @roamer_1 can't stand Palin....

Some people don't like conservatives.

And I want him to say that he expects a woman to be perfect.   Since he won't say that, and he insists that conservatives MUST be perfect, then he's saying no woman can be a conservative.

That's a weird idea, perfection in a political ideology.   Only a rabid Never Trumper could invent something so silly.  I mean, so long as my candidate isn't barbequing the unborn in his backyard, like all the liberals and socialists do, and so long as he actually supports the military (unlike the Booshes and the McStain/Romneys of the gutter), and so long as he wants to shut the border and deport all the illegal alien trash, he's got my vote unless he's a gutless simpering wonder like Kay-Sick or the rest.

After all, we have a country to save, and if we wait for Jesus to finish up with our landscaping we're never going to get the job done.
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Re: Never Trumpers Illustrate Why Loyalty Is An Important Political Virtue
« Reply #90 on: March 17, 2021, 10:05:04 pm »
Actually, I like her fine... She's my kind, bar fights and all. I just won't vote for her.

It's all coming into place, then.

Palin was a fighter, forced McStain's numbers before the election up so far that he had to call a vacation to let the Messiah catch up again.

You don't like her, she fights.

Trump is a fighter.

You don't like him, he fights.

There's a pattern emerging.

You do know that all real conservatives fight, don't you?
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« Reply #91 on: March 17, 2021, 10:11:12 pm »
Some people don't like conservatives.

And I want him to say that he expects a woman to be perfect.   Since he won't say that, and he insists that conservatives MUST be perfect, then he's saying no woman can be a conservative.


Naw, I don't need perfection. But I ain't going to vote for community center boondoggles, windfall profits taxes, and making those taxes retroactive. That's all WAY beyond the pale.

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That's a weird idea, perfection in a political ideology.   Only a rabid Never Trumper could invent something so silly.

Been exactly like that long, long before Tumpy.

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I mean, so long as my candidate isn't barbequing the unborn in his backyard, like all the liberals and socialists do, and so long as he actually supports the military (unlike the Booshes and the McStain/Romneys of the gutter), and so long as he wants to shut the border and deport all the illegal alien trash, he's got my vote unless he's a gutless simpering wonder like Kay-Sick or the rest.

So a cheap date with low expectations. Yeah, that'll get you there for sure.

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After all, we have a country to save, and if we wait for Jesus to finish up with our landscaping we're never going to get the job done.

Your never gonna get the job done anyway.

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Re: Never Trumpers Illustrate Why Loyalty Is An Important Political Virtue
« Reply #92 on: March 17, 2021, 10:17:43 pm »
Naw, I don't need perfection. But I ain't going to vote for community center boondoggles, windfall profits taxes, and making those taxes retroactive. That's all WAY beyond the pale.

Been exactly like that long, long before Tumpy.

So a cheap date with low expectations. Yeah, that'll get you there for sure.

Your never gonna get the job done anyway.

What you're saying is that you want America to die, because you don't want to fight with the tools you have.  You're waiting for perfect tools that won't get your precious hands all icky and stuff.

Thank God I'm a Navy veteran and know better than that.

The GOP is not the party leadership.  The GOP is the party MEMBERSHIP.   The members need to kick the leaders out if they leaders are going the wrong way.  No coddling allowed.

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Re: Never Trumpers Illustrate Why Loyalty Is An Important Political Virtue
« Reply #93 on: March 17, 2021, 10:29:14 pm »
See, if you were a Reaganite, you would know that was Reagan's way of saying you're full of crap... Far be it from a Tumster to catch on... Bless your heart.

I think Reagan was a fine populist president.  He laid the groundwork for Donald Trump. 

I don't know if this makes me a "Reaganite", but it sure makes me grateful. 

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Re: Never Trumpers Illustrate Why Loyalty Is An Important Political Virtue
« Reply #94 on: March 17, 2021, 11:05:45 pm »
No, that's socialism.   Can't be a socialist if you don't believe in the cult of socialism.

Can be a conservative and an atheist.  Works just fine.   They have their god, I don't.   That works because the First Amendment is about freedom, not religion.

The history of history is all government was/is religion based. Nothing has changed.

You have to base atheism from something. And that is religion.

You use the word cult.


cult

    a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.
    "the cult of St. Olaf"
        a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.
        "a network of Satan-worshiping cults"

IMO, a conservative in name only if you are an athiest.

This thread needs some music.

Who's to know if your soul will fade at all?
The one you sold to fool the world
You lost your self esteem along the way, yeah
Good god, you're coming up with reasons
Good god, you're dragging it out
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Re: Never Trumpers Illustrate Why Loyalty Is An Important Political Virtue
« Reply #95 on: March 17, 2021, 11:20:28 pm »
The history of history is all government was/is religion based. Nothing has changed.

You have to base atheism from something. And that is religion.

Always this garbage from the people weak in their faith.

Good for you.

You're wrong, but, good for you.
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Re: Never Trumpers Illustrate Why Loyalty Is An Important Political Virtue
« Reply #96 on: March 17, 2021, 11:27:52 pm »
Always this garbage from the people weak in their faith.

Good for you.

You're wrong, but, good for you.

uh huh

Always this garbage from the people weak in their faith.

Good for you.

You're wrong, but, good for you.

You took the words right out of my mouth.
 
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« Reply #97 on: March 17, 2021, 11:33:22 pm »
You don't like her, she fights.

That ain't what I said. I LIKED the bar fights. That's right in line with my expectations of a Rocky Mountain woman. It;s the Windfall Profits tax. And making it retroactive. and the community center boondoggle... NO DEAL.

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Trump is a fighter.
You don't like him, he fights.

No he's not. Hes a flailer. All hat and no cattle. No fight in ordaining from the high throne. Which is pretty much all he did.

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There's a pattern emerging.
You do know that all real conservatives fight, don't you?

Exactly.

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Re: Never Trumpers Illustrate Why Loyalty Is An Important Political Virtue
« Reply #98 on: March 17, 2021, 11:36:44 pm »
What you're saying is that you want America to die, because you don't want to fight with the tools you have.  You're waiting for perfect tools that won't get your precious hands all icky and stuff.

Thank God I'm a Navy veteran and know better than that.

Nah. You're getting pretty good at putting words in my mouth.
Fighting is more than throwing poo at democrats. Which is what y'all got done these last four years... At a cost of twenty trillion bucks. If that's winning, we're already dead.

Y'all ain't fighting anything.

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« Reply #99 on: March 17, 2021, 11:37:53 pm »
I think Reagan was a fine populist president.  He laid the groundwork for Donald Trump. 

I don't know if this makes me a "Reaganite", but it sure makes me grateful.


If you were grateful you wouldn't hack him every chance you got.