Trump on Seattle: ‘If We Have to Go in, We’re Going to Go in’

[aligncare]

Dear heart, there is only One Saviour, and he isn't in politics.

What? You mean Trump can’t walk on water? I hope someone around the president (biting my finger nails) convinces Trump to scratch that off his to do list, 

[Smokin Joe]

I know that, but apparently, some do not.

I prefer Kipling's approach to humans:

"If all men count with you, but none too much..."

[Smokin Joe]

What? You mean Trump can’t walk on water? I hope someone around the president (biting my finger nails) convinces Trump to scratch that off his to do list, 

I don't get it.
If he needs lessons, just come up this way next January and we'll teach him. 

[Cyber Liberty]

He can do nothing from a political standpoint until either requested, or the situation is such that it is clear intervention is  matter of national import.

And there hasn't been enough time to establish to the public mind the State is not acting.  It's.  Not.  Ripe.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

He shouldn't say he can when he cannot. He should say the situation exactly as it is: He has to be invited in by the idiot Democrats running these cities.

[Cyber Liberty]

He shouldn't say he can when he cannot. He should say the situation exactly as it is: He has to be invited in by the idiot Democrats running these cities.

Except that wouldn't be true, either.

[libertybele]

@libertybele

It's all in the timing.  Go in too late and there's nothing left to save, but if troops go in too early, then both sides will turn on the soldiers to the great delight of the leftist press.  It's like trying to break up a barroom fight. 

As long as the Rats claim they don't want the help, help cannot be forced upon them.  You want the President to win reelection, don't you?

IMHO this situation may have been avoided in the first place when Trump made threats the first time to use the military.  He backpedaled the then and he's backpedaled again. 

Of course I don't want to see Biden seated and want Trump to be re-elected.  However, the premise of screw that state of the union as long as he wins re-election doesn't sit well with me.  Also, after he's re-elected, there is no incentive for him to remain loyal to his base and act accordingly; a concern that I've always had.

One honest clarification though, come election time (and hopefully we'll still see one) IF I feel that Trump is no longer taking us in a positive direction, then I would have no reason to vote for him, nor anyone for that matter.

[sneakypete]

Not a lot of big picture people around these day. But, enough of that. Let’s talk about Trump’s bad manners.

@aligncare

After all,manners and BEING A PROPER REPUBLICAN are what is important.

Damn shame Boy Jorge can't run again,isn't it? He is a PROPER Republican,and knows how to cave to the left. Ain't got one of them evil "strategy bones" in his body. You can count on him to not surprise anybody.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Except that wouldn't be true, either.

Care to explain?

[sneakypete]

No matter what you think of Trump, the alternative is a dementia laden Biden POTUS, an ultra left wing VPOTUS, and dim senate and house.
That will allow them to implement their plan to expand SCOTUS to 11 judges.  We will not have any defenses against the socialist onslaught.

Even our most ardent Trump haters need to realize this.

@catfish1957

Yet they don't seem to,and it is as obvious as the rising sun if you even glance at it..

It really is a total freaking mystery to me,other than the "Orange Man Bad because he's not a "proper" Republican" thing,and even that makes no sense to me.

After all,if you are flying somewhere on a trip or a vacation,you don't care who the pilot is,as long as he gets you there safely.

This is a "political trip",so why can't some people see and accept the similarities?

[sneakypete]

There seems to be a school of thought that society, as we know it, must completely collapse before it can be fixed.  This is, coincidentally, the desire of both the far left and far right, both so far away from the center they are more alike than different.  They're all nihilists.

@Cyber Liberty

I hate to admit it,but you do have a valid point. I don't personally understand that way of thinking,but I do know it exists.

[sneakypete]

I know that, but apparently, some do not.

@Applewood

OUCH! Ya got me! If there is one thing I am known for,it is looking for a Savior.</S>

[dfwgator]

IMHO this situation may have been avoided in the first place when Trump made threats the first time to use the military.  He backpedaled the then and he's backpedaled again. 

Of course I don't want to see Biden seated and want Trump to be re-elected.  However, the premise of screw that state of the union as long as he wins re-election doesn't sit well with me.  Also, after he's re-elected, there is no incentive for him to remain loyal to his base and act accordingly; a concern that I've always had.

One honest clarification though, come election time (and hopefully we'll still see one) IF I feel that Trump is no longer taking us in a positive direction, then I would have no reason to vote for him, nor anyone for that matter.

Elections are no longer the answer.  Yes, we have reached that point.

[Cyber Liberty]

Care to explain?

It's incorrect to say the President cannot, under any circumstances, dispatch Federal troops to a state if the Governor doesn't want them.  There is no way that Governor Faubus invited the Airborne Division into the state or Arkansas to impose desegregation, yet there they were.

It's possible I misread your earlier post.

[Smokin Joe]

And there hasn't been enough time to establish to the public mind the State is not acting.  It's.  Not.  Ripe.

Exactly.

[sneakypete]

Elections are no longer the answer.  Yes, we have reached that point.

@dfwgator

Sadly,I agree.

The time for public hangings are approaching.

[Chosen Daughter]

All talk, no action.  Didn't he say he was going to send in the military a week or so ago if cities couldn't get the anarchy under control?  Maybe if he had, Seattle wouldn't be occupied.

Yeah he's so tough.   He just pandered to the left and let them call him a White Nationalist.   Now he's going to go in?

The guy is hugely mixed messages.  Who even knows who he is or what he believes?

He's trying to play both sides of the coin.  Be the African American president to a people who have chosen liberalism for 60 years.  And then he talks tough, which will enrage them.  Good luck with that Donald.

Cannot support crime (First Act) and fight it at the same time.

[Mesaclone]

He shouldn't say he can when he cannot. He should say the situation exactly as it is: He has to be invited in by the idiot Democrats running these cities.

He CAN...and he CAN without an invitation...so its untrue to say he cannot. That he let the Governor and others know he CAN but currently WILL not...is very different. Letting them know he CAN pressures them to act. Not actually intervening is equally as wise, as it...again...puts pressure on the Governor to act.

In other words, the President has chosen the best course by which to get the Governor to take care of his own problem...because that is who SHOULD take care of it....yet stands ready if/when the time comes for Federal intervention.


I wrote this before seeing CyberLiberty's apt reply...sorry for jumping in.

[roamer_1]

There seems to be a school of thought that society, as we know it, must completely collapse before it can be fixed.  This is, coincidentally, the desire of both the far left and far right, both so far away from the center they are more alike than different.  They're all nihilists.

I will take offense at that.
The far right is not nihilistic.

[Fishrrman]

smokin joe wrote (re the president):
"He can do nothing from a political standpoint until either requested, or the situation is such that it is clear intervention is  matter of national import."

OK, Joe, I'm gonna call you out on the floor about it.
Just what kind of "national import" would have to occur in order to warrant "intervention"....?

[Chosen Daughter]

Only problem is, Trump keeps making threats .... idle threats accomplishes nothing and in my opinion after awhile makes what ever he says irrelevant.  Adhering to the "will of the people"?  This country is governed by a set of laws and rules.  We are not governed by mob rule, which is exactly what is being allowed to happen and no one is doing a darn thing about it.

Ranting Stephanie here!  Good post. 

[Cyber Liberty]

I will take offense at that.
The far right is not nihilistic.

No offense meant.

[Fishrrman]

I would not otherwise answer a post by roamer, but I happened to see this quote in the reply above:
"The far right is not nihilistic."

Not nihilistic.
But most certainly sophistic...!

[roamer_1]

No offense meant.

Again, with emphasis, the far right is not nihilistic.

[roamer_1]

I would not otherwise answer a post by roamer, but I happened to see this quote in the reply above:
"The far right is not nihilistic."

Not nihilistic.
But most certainly sophistic...!

No @Fishrrman , The sophists are on the left, in liberalism.