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11:59 AM 10/26/2017

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http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/26/justice-department-agrees-to-pay-tea-party-victims-in-irs-targeting-scandal/

President Donald Trump’s administration settled two class action lawsuits filed by conservative “Tea Party” groups alleging former President Barack Obama’s Department of Justice discriminated against them due to their ideological commitments.

The DOJ reached an undisclosed monetary settlement with over 400 conservative groups that had their applications for tax exempt status delayed “based solely on their viewpoint or ideology,” Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced Thursday.

“The [Internal Revenue Service]’s use of these criteria as a basis for heightened scrutiny was wrong and should never have occurred,” Sessions said in a statement Thursday. “It is improper for the IRS to single out groups for different treatment based on their names or ideological positions.”
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Excuse me, but I don't think the Government should be allowed to make "Undisclosed monetary settlements."  That's taxpayers' money.  I want to know exactly how much Lois Lerner's perfidy cost us.
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Great News!

To bad it comes to late for Catherine Engelbrecht and a lot of others!

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Excuse me, but I don't think the Government should be allowed to make "Undisclosed monetary settlements."  That's taxpayers' money.  I want to know exactly how much Lois Lerner's perfidy cost us.

AMEN to that!
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AMEN to that!

The payments Should be assessed in a Civil RICO action against the people directly responsible, not the tax payers.

Then it should be followed up with a Criminal RICO prosecution.

The victims 1st Amendment Rights were violated.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242
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The payments Should be assessed in a Civil RICO action against the people directly responsible, not the tax payers.

Then it should be followed up with a Criminal RICO prosecution.

The victims 1st Amendment Rights were violated.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242

Agreed!  100% 

And then get rid of the Marxist income tax and the IRS permanently!

http://fairtax.org
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The payments Should be assessed in a Civil RICO action against the people directly responsible, not the tax payers.

Then it should be followed up with a Criminal RICO prosecution.

The victims 1st Amendment Rights were violated.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242

AMEN to that, too.  Can't tell you how much it pissed me Lois Lerner got off scot-free.
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AMEN to that, too.  Can't tell you how much it pissed me Lois Lerner got off scot-free.

It will NEVER stop for so long as we have an income tax and the IRS! 
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Excuse me, but I don't think the Government should be allowed to make "Undisclosed monetary settlements."  That's taxpayers' money.  I want to know exactly how much Lois Lerner's perfidy cost us.

I believe the settlements will reflect taxes unfairly collected from these groups because the IRS denied them tax exempt status.
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It will NEVER stop for so long as we have an income tax and the IRS!

Not to hijack the thread, but in the research I did for writing my alternate history series, I ran across an interesting twist on tax collecting.

The King had an engraver who served as a minter of money.

They changed the design of the coins every year, and the previous year's coins became no good.

You had to take them in to the minter every year to exchange them for the new ones.

And the minters deducted a percentage of the gross weight/value of your coins in the exchange.
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It will NEVER stop for so long as we have an income tax and the IRS!

Yes!  It's a huge priority for us to get some kind of fair or flat tax enacted.  I like Ted Cruz' plan.

The IRS should NEVER have been granted this much power.  People should never have to be afraid of a government tax agency.

I think the IRS killed my brother-in-law.

We need to kill the IRS.
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The payments Should be assessed in a Civil RICO action against the people directly responsible, not the tax payers.

Then it should be followed up with a Criminal RICO prosecution.

The victims 1st Amendment Rights were violated.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242

Yes, it should!  Instead of getting taxpayers to pay other taxpayers for IRS employees' criminal actions.

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I believe the settlements will reflect taxes unfairly collected from these groups because the IRS denied them tax exempt status.

There is no indication the amount to be paid is reflected in the level of damage.  Class Actions rarely are, that's why people usually get checks like 47 cents from a multi-million dollar suit.  As a taxpayer, I want to know how big the checks are going out, and how much the lawyers are skimming off the top.

Secondly, has anybody determined how much damage to the clients was caused by donations that dried up from lack of IRS designation?
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Feds will pay $3.5 million to conservative groups targeted by IRS

http://freebeacon.com/issues/conservatives-targeted-irs-celebrate-settlement/
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Feds will pay $3.5 million to conservative groups targeted by IRS

http://freebeacon.com/issues/conservatives-targeted-irs-celebrate-settlement/

Thanks!  Now, how do we get that from the hides of Lerner and Koskinen?
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Let me see if I have this straight?

Lois Learner and her minions unfairly targeted political organizations simply because of their leanings and WE get to pay the damned bill while she basks in the sunshine enjoying her very nice retirement!

Is that about right? 
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And what about those groups like True the Vote who were put out of business by those illegal actions?
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Let me see if I have this straight?

Lois Learner and her minions unfairly targeted political organizations simply because of their leanings and WE get to pay the damned bill while she basks in the sunshine enjoying her very nice retirement!

Is that about right?

You got it, @Bigun.  Right there.  I imagine her nostrils are getting sunburned on that beach in Tahiti.
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And what about those groups like True the Vote who were put out of business by those illegal actions?

I imagine their checks for $0.47 are in the mail to somewhere.
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I imagine their checks for $0.47 are in the mail to somewhere.

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Excuse me, but I don't think the Government should be allowed to make "Undisclosed monetary settlements."  That's taxpayers' money.  I want to know exactly how much Lois Lerner's perfidy cost us.

Take it out of Barack & Michelle's honoraria.

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Justice Dept Agrees To Pay Tea Party Victims In Obama IRS Targeting Scandal



I think they mean that they are going to raid the taxpayer's wallet to pay for the Damages Obama caused.   


They should be raiding Obama's wallet.   


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The payments Should be assessed in a Civil RICO action against the people directly responsible, not the tax payers.

Then it should be followed up with a Criminal RICO prosecution.

The victims 1st Amendment Rights were violated.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242



I like how you think.   
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There is no indication the amount to be paid is reflected in the level of damage.  Class Actions rarely are, that's why people usually get checks like 47 cents from a multi-million dollar suit.  As a taxpayer, I want to know how big the checks are going out, and how much the lawyers are skimming off the top.

Secondly, has anybody determined how much damage to the clients was caused by donations that dried up from lack of IRS designation?

That can never be determined, but what we know is that they hurt conservatives, especially tea party groups, which never should have happened.

I don't know how they can possibly reimburse these groups for the damage but it's encouraging that they have been ordered to.

I'm not gonna spend a lot of time worry where the money comes from.  In comparison to what they spend on utter crap, it will be a drop in the bucket.
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Take it out of Barack & Michelle's honoraria.

That is a perfect idea.  See if you can get that going.
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