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Almost one month after it was disclosed that former President Obama's National Security Adviser Susan Rice was unmasking members of President Trump’s team and other Americans, Trump’s own national security adviser, H.R. McMaster, sent an official letter giving her unfettered and continuing access to classified information and waiving her “need-to-know” requirement on anything she viewed or received during her tenure, Circa has confirmed.

The undated and unclassified letter from McMaster was sent in the mail to Rice's home during the last week of April. Trump was not aware of the letter or McMaster’s decision, according to two Senior West Wing officials and an intelligence official, who spoke to Circa on condition that they not be named.

“I hereby waive the requirement that you must have a ‘need-to-know’ to access any classified information contained in items you 'originated, reviewed, signed or received while serving,' as National Security Adviser,” the letter said. The letter also states that the “NSC will continue to work with you to ensure the appropriate security clearance documentation remains on file to allow you access to classified information.”

Circa revealed in March that during President Obama’s tenure, top aides -- including Rice, former CIA Director John Brennan and former Attorney General Loretta Lynch -- routinely reviewed intelligence reports received from the National Security Agency’s incidental intercepts of Americans abroad. They were doing so by taking advantage of rules Obama relaxed starting in 2011 to help the government better fight terrorism, espionage by foreign enemies and hacking threats, according to documents obtained by Circa.

In June, the House Intelligence Committee subpoenaed Rice as part of the committee’s larger investigation into the unmasking of Americans under the Obama administration. Rice maintains that she never accessed the information inappropriately and has agreed to testify before the committee.

Under the law, and under certain conditions, it is common practice for some senior government officials to be given the unfettered access to classified information, and their “need to know” is waived under "Executive Order 13526 Section 4.4 Access by Historical Researchers and Certain Former Government Personnel.” But the White House officials told Circa that under the current congressional investigation, and given President Trump’s ongoing concern that members of his team were unmasked, Rice’s clearance should have been limited to congressional testimony only or revoked until the end of the investigation. Rice and Brennan have confirmed they sought the unredacted names of Americans in NSA-sourced intelligence reports, but insisted their requests were routine parts of their work and that they did nothing improper. Former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power also has legal authority to unmask officials.

In a June tweet, Trump called the revelation that Rice and other Obama senior officials were unmasking members of his team the “big story… the ‘unmasking and surveillance' that took place during the Obama administration.”

“Basically, this letter which was signed in the last week of April undercuts the president’s assertion that Susan Rice’s unmasking activity was inappropriate. In essence, anybody who committed a violation as she did would not be given access to classified information,” said a senior West Wing official, who was shown the document by Circa and verified its authenticity. “In fact, they would have their security clearance and right to 'need-to-know' stripped.”

“The point is, is that it lowers the bar for her,” the Senior West Wing official said.

“This memo McMaster sent to Rice makes it so that she doesn’t have to prove a continuing 'need-to-know' to have access to classified information and in effect is a White House pardon of Susan Rice and could be used by other Obama officials who conducted targeted unmasking of the campaign as a defense,” the official added.

The White House has not responded to requests for comment.

An intelligence official told Circa “that the NSA decision to provide this level of access to the subject of several ongoing investigations and to waive her ‘need-to-know’ requirement raises serious legal, moral and ethical concerns.”


https://www.circa.com/story/2017/08/03/politics/susan-rice-keeps-top-secret-security-clearance-hr-mcmaster-letter-says
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Almost one month after it was disclosed that former President Obama's National Security Adviser Susan Rice was unmasking members of President Trump’s team and other Americans, Trump’s own national security adviser, H.R. McMaster, sent an official letter giving her unfettered and continuing access to classified information and waiving her “need-to-know” requirement on anything she viewed or received during her tenure, Circa has confirmed.

The undated and unclassified letter from McMaster was sent in the mail to Rice's home during the last week of April. Trump was not aware of the letter or McMaster’s decision, according to two Senior West Wing officials and an intelligence official, who spoke to Circa on condition that they not be named.

“I hereby waive the requirement that you must have a ‘need-to-know’ to access any classified information contained in items you 'originated, reviewed, signed or received while serving,' as National Security Adviser,” the letter said. The letter also states that the “NSC will continue to work with you to ensure the appropriate security clearance documentation remains on file to allow you access to classified information.”

Circa revealed in March that during President Obama’s tenure, top aides -- including Rice, former CIA Director John Brennan and former Attorney General Loretta Lynch -- routinely reviewed intelligence reports received from the National Security Agency’s incidental intercepts of Americans abroad. They were doing so by taking advantage of rules Obama relaxed starting in 2011 to help the government better fight terrorism, espionage by foreign enemies and hacking threats, according to documents obtained by Circa.

In June, the House Intelligence Committee subpoenaed Rice as part of the committee’s larger investigation into the unmasking of Americans under the Obama administration. Rice maintains that she never accessed the information inappropriately and has agreed to testify before the committee.

Under the law, and under certain conditions, it is common practice for some senior government officials to be given the unfettered access to classified information, and their “need to know” is waived under "Executive Order 13526 Section 4.4 Access by Historical Researchers and Certain Former Government Personnel.” But the White House officials told Circa that under the current congressional investigation, and given President Trump’s ongoing concern that members of his team were unmasked, Rice’s clearance should have been limited to congressional testimony only or revoked until the end of the investigation. Rice and Brennan have confirmed they sought the unredacted names of Americans in NSA-sourced intelligence reports, but insisted their requests were routine parts of their work and that they did nothing improper. Former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power also has legal authority to unmask officials.

In a June tweet, Trump called the revelation that Rice and other Obama senior officials were unmasking members of his team the “big story… the ‘unmasking and surveillance' that took place during the Obama administration.”

“Basically, this letter which was signed in the last week of April undercuts the president’s assertion that Susan Rice’s unmasking activity was inappropriate. In essence, anybody who committed a violation as she did would not be given access to classified information,” said a senior West Wing official, who was shown the document by Circa and verified its authenticity. “In fact, they would have their security clearance and right to 'need-to-know' stripped.”

“The point is, is that it lowers the bar for her,” the Senior West Wing official said.

“This memo McMaster sent to Rice makes it so that she doesn’t have to prove a continuing 'need-to-know' to have access to classified information and in effect is a White House pardon of Susan Rice and could be used by other Obama officials who conducted targeted unmasking of the campaign as a defense,” the official added.

The White House has not responded to requests for comment.

An intelligence official told Circa “that the NSA decision to provide this level of access to the subject of several ongoing investigations and to waive her ‘need-to-know’ requirement raises serious legal, moral and ethical concerns.”


https://www.circa.com/story/2017/08/03/politics/susan-rice-keeps-top-secret-security-clearance-hr-mcmaster-letter-says

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I think it's important to understand that prior to the unmasking, no one knew who the 'unidentified U.S. persons' were.

And the only way NSA would write intelligence reports with them mentioned would be if the foreign persons they targeted were in talks with those selfsame 'unidentified U.S. persons'.

So it's hard to prove malicious intent when those unmasked were not known until afterwards.

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I think it's important to understand that prior to the unmasking, no one knew who the 'unidentified U.S. persons' were.

And the only way NSA would write intelligence reports with them mentioned would be if the foreign persons they targeted were in talks with those selfsame 'unidentified U.S. persons'.

So it's hard to prove malicious intent when those unmasked were not known until afterwards.

I wasn't aware "intent" needed to be proven?  Or was Comey correct when he said it wasn't right to prosecute Hillary for the emails?
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I wasn't aware "intent" needed to be proven?  Or was Comey correct when he said it wasn't right to prosecute Hillary for the emails?

The only argument that'd work with that is if it was inappropriate for her position to unmask anyone, ever.

Otherwise it'd be a case of looking at the circumstances of the information PRIOR to knowing who the unmasked person was.

But the complaints are that she unmasked Trump officials.  Which was an unknown at the time.  Not that it was inappropriate for her position to unmask anyone.

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It'd be like finding out you are charged with accessory to murder because you participated in a game show where you had to pick one of three curtains (each with a person behind).  And the curtain you picked held a murderer behind it.

How would you have known that before pulling aside the curtain?
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The only argument that'd work with that is if it was inappropriate for her position to unmask anyone, ever.

Otherwise it'd be a case of looking at the circumstances of the information PRIOR to knowing who the unmasked person was.

But the complaints are that she unmasked Trump officials.  Which was an unknown at the time.  Not that it was inappropriate for her position to unmask anyone.

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It'd be like finding out you are charged with accessory to murder because you participated in a game show where you had to pick one of three curtains (each with a person behind).  And the curtain you picked held a murderer behind it.

How would you have known that before pulling aside the curtain?

Then it could never be illegal to improperly unmask someone, because it could never be proven there was malicious intent.  An interesting argument.
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Odd quirk of classified information - if you lose your clearance rating on things you " 'originated, reviewed, signed or received while serving,' " - you can't be questioned about them in court or in congress, as you no longer are permitted to discuss them at all.

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Then it could never be illegal to improperly unmask someone, because it could never be proven there was malicious intent.  An interesting argument.

Only with regard to foreign collection.

Internal domestic collection that is handled by the FBI would, by its very nature, already be known as collection against U.S. persons.  And unless that collection shows evidence of a crime occurring, then there is *NO* valid reason to unmask the person, *EVER*.

But this isn't about domestic collection, but collect on *FOREIGN* targets.  And the legal criteria for unmasking is if there is valid foreign intelligence.  Which has already happened by the fact the information had been converted from raw intake to a finished report.  (No one is going to waste their time writing up something that has no value and that no one wants.)

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As an example, if you had the power to unmask, what would you do if you saw an intelligence report that stated:

"An unnamed U.S. individual contacted the ISIL commander in Syria."

or

"An unnamed U.S. individual met with Vladimir Putin to discuss ways to circumvent existing US sanctions on Iran."
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Shorthand:  The Democrats get away with it AGAIN.

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Hmmm.... what is the status of Hillary's clearance?

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Hmmm.... what is the status of Hillary's clearance?

Top-notch I imagine.  We give Dems all the breaks.  Check out the sterling legal analysis above to see why.
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Top-notch I imagine.  We give Dems all the breaks.  Check out the sterling legal analysis above to see why.

Look, this whole line about 'unmasking' was a big pile of distraction the moment it broke.  Mainly because it's trying to put claim that the 'effect' of one's actions is the real 'cause'.

Those pushing the story, of course, were hoping people would buy it as it involves topics that most really don't know about.

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Look, this whole line about 'unmasking' was a big pile of distraction the moment it broke.  Mainly because it's trying to put claim that the 'effect' of one's actions is the real 'cause'.

Those pushing the story, of course, were hoping people would buy it as it involves topics that most really don't know about.

You just lost all credibility, John, defending this practice.  Not a bad days' work there.
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You just lost all credibility, John, defending this practice.  Not a bad days' work there.

Still waiting for your answer, Cyber.

If you had the power to unmask, what would you do if you saw an intelligence report that stated:

"An unnamed U.S. individual contacted the ISIL commander in Syria."

or

"An unnamed U.S. individual met with Vladimir Putin to discuss ways to circumvent existing US sanctions on Iran."

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Still waiting for your answer, Cyber.

If you had the power to unmask, what would you do if you saw an intelligence report that stated:

"An unnamed U.S. individual contacted the ISIL commander in Syria."

or

"An unnamed U.S. individual met with Vladimir Putin to discuss ways to circumvent existing US sanctions on Iran."

I didn't answer because I didn't see a serious question. Play your silly game  on somebody else, you are trying to baffle with bullshit.  The farther you go, the deeper the bull.  Now go bug somebody who might believe you.

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You just lost all credibility, John, defending this practice.  Not a bad days' work there.

Just another democrat troll.
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Only with regard to foreign collection.

Internal domestic collection that is handled by the FBI would, by its very nature, already be known as collection against U.S. persons.  And unless that collection shows evidence of a crime occurring, then there is *NO* valid reason to unmask the person, *EVER*.

But this isn't about domestic collection, but collect on *FOREIGN* targets.  And the legal criteria for unmasking is if there is valid foreign intelligence.  Which has already happened by the fact the information had been converted from raw intake to a finished report.  (No one is going to waste their time writing up something that has no value and that no one wants.)

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As an example, if you had the power to unmask, what would you do if you saw an intelligence report that stated:

"An unnamed U.S. individual contacted the ISIL commander in Syria."

or

"An unnamed U.S. individual met with Vladimir Putin to discuss ways to circumvent existing US sanctions on Iran."

That is a load of crap. Domestic individuals picked up in foreign intel surveillance all the time. They are not unmasked unless there is a national security need. Intent is irrelevant, there are protocols which seem here to be very shoddily ignored for political purposes with no valid reason for it.
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That is a load of crap. Domestic individuals picked up in foreign intel surveillance all the time. They are not unmasked unless there is a national security need. Intent is irrelevant, there are protocols which seem here to be very shoddily ignored for political purposes with no valid reason for it.

He's covering for McMaster, and we have no idea why.  I've never seen so much scat thrown all over the place.
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I watched John Bolton speak and he said Trump was being hamstrung with how the machinery in DC works.

Bolton does not need to be Secretary of Defense, SOS, but I think he'd be useful to get in there and kick some butt; get things in order.  Maybe this Kelly fellow can do this some.
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I'm going to start a running list in my signature of all the times someone is accused of being a "leftist" on TBR.

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