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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #100 on: October 13, 2016, 04:19:34 pm »
Quote from: endicom on October 13, 2016, 04:16:59 pm
No, that puts the anus on you as there is no purity in politics.

Did you vote for Reagan? If so then did that vote condone all of his past behavior?

Did you vote for Dubya? If so then did that vote condone all of his past behavior?

Ckearly you have lived far too vicariously to Orange Glorious.

If you wish to put the 'anus' on someone, may I suggest the Castro district rather than a conservative website?

Not that there's anything wrong with that, but my ass has a tattoo of Gandalf saying "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!" so I don't swing that way.
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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #101 on: October 13, 2016, 04:22:11 pm »
Quote from: dfwgator on October 13, 2016, 04:18:41 pm
The Anus?


(you must be a P1)

No.  He's just vulgar like the guy he's praising all over this forum.
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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #102 on: October 13, 2016, 04:25:05 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on October 13, 2016, 04:22:11 pm
No.  He's just vulgar like the guy he's praising all over this forum.

He seemed to be hitting on me. Can't blame him really. I am a ruggedly handsome beast afterall.

I imagine Trumps sex assault behavior has rapidly emboldened his followers.

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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #103 on: October 13, 2016, 04:30:35 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on October 13, 2016, 03:55:41 pm
Don't worry about some of these posters, they are the pets of the forum and just in my opinion, are free to get away with dragging folks names' through the mud with impunity.  Shouldn't be that way, but there are always favorites everywhere.

As far as Clinton vs. Trump,

Clinton bankrolled by Saudi Arabia who may well be tied into ISIS who has many fathers, this says it all, should the shallow arguments of some be to accuse others of not being conservatives.

The same kind gave us Obama and more liberalism by railing against Romney.

They look for a Conservative ideal and voila; Reagan signed abortion into law, Goldwater was pro-abortion,

Cruz really doesn't have the leadership experience of a Walker, Perry or Pence; nor the accomplishments but this is what these folks hang their hats on.


I don't worry about these posters. At FR I am 'decimon' and anyone is free to check my history. I haven't posted there in years and for years before that I avoided arguments with squirrel brains.

I don't much care for or about Trump and that seems to be true for most other people who will nonetheless vote for him.

Why?

Because a Hillary presidency may be the point of no return. The abyss.

If Trump was replaced by another of the former candidates then I would vote for that person.

Why?

Hillary.
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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #104 on: October 13, 2016, 04:31:20 pm »
Quote from: cuky on October 13, 2016, 04:06:19 pm

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rls_lFwr25k

The whole tape is available at CBS.  You are reluctantly supporting a sick pervert. There is also a tape where he talks about going into the dressing rooms of the Beauty Pageants including the Miss Teen ones. Talk about sick.
Thats it ?  thats all  this about  ? and people are ******* stupid enough  to say this makes  a pedophile ?  thats really graping at straws

Trump  needs to sue the **** wits at CBS for slander  and  get the FCC close  them  down and  take their dammed TV  franchise if he wins
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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #105 on: October 13, 2016, 04:33:19 pm »
Gee - I'm not sure who to believe here...

The media and the victims who says Trump likes to grab them in the pu$$y, or Trump who says he likes to grab them in the pu$$y...
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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #106 on: October 13, 2016, 04:37:28 pm »
Quote from: cuky on October 13, 2016, 04:06:19 pm

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rls_lFwr25k

The whole tape is available at CBS.  You are reluctantly supporting a sick pervert. There is also a tape where he talks about going into the dressing rooms of the Beauty Pageants including the Miss Teen ones. Talk about sick.

There is also the Howard Stern tape where Trump talks about the then 12-year-old Paris Hilton.

Then there is this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqE4hKIP4n0

Seriously, what sort of father talks about his 1-year-old daughter in that way - speculating on how big her breasts will get when she grows up.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP7yf8-Lk80

And yes, every father says that the thing he has most in common with his daughter is sex.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpOZVN4_Ihc



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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #107 on: October 13, 2016, 04:37:56 pm »
Quote from: bolobaby on October 13, 2016, 04:33:19 pm
Gee - I'm not sure who to believe here...

The media and the victims who says Trump likes to grab them in the pu$$y, or Trump who says he likes to grab them in the pu$$y...

You have to believe trump when he says 'wall' or 'judges' but not when he admits grabbing women by the pxxxy.

Its a subtle line to walk, sure, but his sycophants are rather adept at it...
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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #108 on: October 13, 2016, 04:38:52 pm »
Quote from: Norm Lenhart on October 13, 2016, 04:25:05 pm
He seemed to be hitting on me. Can't blame him really. I am a ruggedly handsome beast afterall.

I imagine Trumps sex assault behavior has rapidly emboldened his followers.

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Protect yourself, Norm.   :dx1:
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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #109 on: October 13, 2016, 04:39:38 pm »
Quote from: Norm Lenhart on October 13, 2016, 04:37:56 pm
You have to believe trump when he says 'wall' or 'judges' but not when he admits grabbing women by the pxxxy.

Its a subtle line to walk, sure, but his sycophants are rather adept at it...

You know what - I'm going to take a leap and believe Trump on this one! He likes to grab them in the pu$$y!
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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #110 on: October 13, 2016, 04:43:24 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on October 13, 2016, 04:38:52 pm
Protect yourself, Norm.   :dx1:

Well it's confusing. As a male I lack the body part Trump grabs so freely and his supporters think is acceptable for him doing.

On the other hand, Trump has Milo and the Alt Right and they are known homosexuals/filled with known homosexuals pushing the gay agenda.

May Gandalf succeed in keeping me inviolate!
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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #111 on: October 13, 2016, 04:44:23 pm »
Quote from: Charlespg on October 13, 2016, 04:31:20 pm
Thats it ?  thats all  this about  ? and people are ******* stupid enough  to say this makes  a pedophile ?  thats really graping at straws

Trump  needs to sue the **** wits at CBS for slander  and  get the FCC close  them  down and  take their dammed TV  franchise if he wins

Is graping at straws any different that graping at women's private parts?

Just curious.....
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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #112 on: October 13, 2016, 04:45:57 pm »
Quote from: bolobaby on October 13, 2016, 04:39:38 pm
You know what - I'm going to take a leap and believe Trump on this one! He likes to grab them in the pu$$y!

I do. And it's confusing because the people that told me I had to believe Trump are mad at me for believing Trump.

Oh well. They are crazy people anyway. I'll just believe Trump when he says he's a sexual abuser and not when he clearly lies about most other things. Who says I'm a purist that can't compromise?

Gonna send them to this post when they say it too!
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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #113 on: October 13, 2016, 04:48:14 pm »
Quote from: Norm Lenhart on October 13, 2016, 04:43:24 pm
Well it's confusing. As a male I lack the body part Trump grabs so freely and his supporters think is acceptable for him doing.

On the other hand, Trump has Milo and the Alt Right and they are known homosexuals/filled with known homosexuals pushing the gay agenda.

May Gandalf succeed in keeping me inviolate!

He's good at that....

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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #114 on: October 13, 2016, 04:54:05 pm »
Quote from: Norm Lenhart on October 13, 2016, 12:22:47 pm
If the echo of truth offends you...you might be a liberal (Apologies to Jeff Foxworthy)

Be honest with us DD. You are going to excuse anything Trump does, arent you? Your statements show you don't give a rats ass about honesty when it comes to Trump, don't they? You want what you want and nothing is going to change that.

Just admit it and leave us to our echo chamber. Because you have lost all the respect most here had for you. There is no point in sticking around. Stop complaining about it and remove yourself from the situation. It couldn't be easier. But you won't do that will you. Nope. So spare us your wisdom.

You're an imbecile.    I've never excused anything he's done.  I've been very critical of him.   

But thanks for making my point.   Anything that isn't critical of him results in ridiculous comments like yours.
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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #115 on: October 13, 2016, 04:55:40 pm »
Quote from: driftdiver on October 13, 2016, 04:54:05 pm
You're an imbecile.    I've never excused anything he's done.  I've been very critical of him.   

But thanks for making my point.   Anything that isn't critical of him results in ridiculous comments like yours.

An imbecile claims to be conservative while voting for a guy like Trump. Don't like the truth? Oh freaking well.
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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #116 on: October 13, 2016, 04:58:14 pm »
Quote from: Charlespg on October 13, 2016, 04:31:20 pm
Thats it ?  thats all  this about  ? and people are ******* stupid enough  to say this makes  a pedophile ?  thats really graping at straws

Trump  needs to sue the **** wits at CBS for slander  and  get the FCC close  them  down and  take their dammed TV  franchise if he wins

So you don’t think that a then 46-year-old man looking at a 10-year-old girl and saying “I’m going to be dating you in ten years” isn’t creepy?

I don’t have any kids myself but I have many great nieces, one who is about that girl’s age and I can tell you that if some man said to my 9-year-old great niece, “I’m going to be dating you in ten years”, he’d get my knee to his crotch, that is if her dad or mom didn’t get to him first.

While Trump thinks he can, wants to “loosen the liable laws” as to allow him to sue any media outlet that says anything negative about him, even if true, I don’t know what is more frightening - Trump wanting to subvert the 1st A or his fans that are just fine with that.

Yes, by all means, let Trump use the FCC to shut down all dissent.

All Hail Our Glorious Leader!

 **nononono*
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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #117 on: October 13, 2016, 05:02:19 pm »
Getting back to the gist of this “story” by Hoft (someone with little to no credibility IMO) is that the woman is lying because the phrase, “he was like an octopus, hands all over the place” was used in a Velvet Underground song.

For one thing, I’m pretty up on a lot of music including VU but I’ve never heard that song before, it is not a particularly well known VU song. It certainly wasn’t a song played on any mainstream radio stations unlike say Walk On The Wild Side.

Lou Reed didn’t invent the phrase and yes, I’ve heard it used before, before that song even came out, to describe a guy who suddenly starts groping and seems to have more hands than an octopus has tentacles and various iterations of the same.

Hoft uses as a “source” a tweet by Mike Cernovich. Cernovich FWIW is a creepy guy who doesn’t believe that “date rape” exists and gives men advice on how to beat rape charges – both date rape and “rape-rape”.
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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #118 on: October 13, 2016, 05:25:57 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on October 13, 2016, 12:44:16 pm
Here is where you know the article is just making it up...

The truth is, through his career, he has been plagued by these accusations, constantly. He even talks about it in many interviews. They are trying to whitewash their Orange messiah and now they are really stretching it, accusing this of a hoax because it sounded similar to song lyrics.....well good golly ms Molly.

Throughout his entire life Trump has been plagued with less than desirable behavior and through Hillary's entire career she's been plagued with less than desirable actions and decisions.

Other than massive corruption I'm still trying to digest how as a country we actually nominated these two!
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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #119 on: October 13, 2016, 05:30:27 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on October 13, 2016, 05:25:57 pm
Throughout his entire life Trump has been plagued with less than desirable behavior and through Hillary's entire career she's been plagued with less than desirable actions and decisions.

Other than massive corruption I'm still trying to digest how as a country we actually nominated these two!


Incrementalism.

2012 - "We have to vote for Mitt Romney even though he created Romenycare, legalized homo marriage and profits directly from his own abortion laws even if more kids die with him nationalizing his profits"

2016 - "Well We voted for a babykiller and did it in the name of Christianity and conservatism so Trump isn't so bad really..."

There you go.
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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #120 on: October 13, 2016, 05:30:48 pm »
 a crass  comment  and a few sound  (18 seconds !)  bites   Thats all you have
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  While Trump thinks he can, wants to “loosen the liable laws” as to allow him to sue any media outlet that says anything negative about him, even if true, I don’t know what is more frightening - Trump wanting to subvert the 1st A or his fans that are just fine with that.

Yes, by all means, let Trump use the FCC to shut down all dissent.
   
the Liable laws should be loosened  and
 and the reporters at CBS  need their fing teeth kicked in
 this is subverting  a presidential election with edited  tapes, hearsay  and vile nasty overreaching  allegations by the the democratic party and their A** licking yahoos in the Media

have the FCC close down CBS dammed right ,subverting  a presidential election by slander and libel  is a dammed good reason

if the American people ever get tired of this crap and revolt  I hope they  stand the democrats a** licking  puppets in the MSM against a damm wall and shoot the useless bastards

and i'm out of here  ..this place was ok untill the owner let Never trump trolls and Hillery bots  camp out  here  and fling ****..its  like trying to have a meaningful conversation with a dung beetle
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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #121 on: October 13, 2016, 05:32:33 pm »
Quote from: Charlespg on October 13, 2016, 05:30:48 pm
a crass  comment  and a few sound  (18 seconds !)  bites   Thats all you have  the Liable laws should be loosened  and
 and the reporters at CBS  need their fing teeth kicked in
 this is subverting  a presidential election with edited  tapes, hearsay  and vile nasty overreaching  allegations by the the democratic party and their A** licking yahoos in the Media

have the FCC close down CBS dammed right ,subverting  a presidential election by slander and libel  is a dammed good reason

if the American people ever get tired of this crap and revolt  I hope they  stand the democrats a** licking  puppets in the MSM against a damm wall and shoot the useless bastards

and i'm out of here  ..this place was ok untill the owner let Never trump trolls and Hillery bots  camp out  here  and fling ****..its  like trying to have a meaningful conversation with a dung beetle

You are the fourth today. Someone tell me with a straight face this isn't planned.

Jokes on you though. Most of us don't care and won't miss you.
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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #122 on: October 13, 2016, 05:35:04 pm »
Quote from: Charlespg on October 13, 2016, 05:30:48 pm
a crass  comment  and a few sound  (18 seconds !)  bites   Thats all you have  the Liable laws should be loosened  and
 and the reporters at CBS  need their fing teeth kicked in
 this is subverting  a presidential election with edited  tapes, hearsay  and vile nasty overreaching  allegations by the the democratic party and their A** licking yahoos in the Media

have the FCC close down CBS dammed right ,subverting  a presidential election by slander and libel  is a dammed good reason

if the American people ever get tired of this crap and revolt  I hope they  stand the democrats a** licking  puppets in the MSM against a damm wall and shoot the useless bastards

and i'm out of here  ..this place was ok untill the owner let Never trump trolls and Hillery bots  camp out  here  and fling ****..its  like trying to have a meaningful conversation with a dung beetle

THIS ^^ is what you call a "meaningful conversation??"

btw, calling principled conservatives "Hillery bots" is a straight out lie.

You Trump lovers really need to stop making that ludicrous accusation, when YOU are the ones supporting a LIBERAL, and we're not.
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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #123 on: October 13, 2016, 05:37:11 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on October 13, 2016, 05:35:04 pm
THIS ^^ is what you call a "meaningful conversation??"

btw, calling principled conservatives "Hillery bots" is a straight out lie.

You Trump lovers really need to stop making that ludicrous accusation, when YOU are the ones supporting a LIBERAL, and we're not.

No, it's gaslighting. They are claiming to quit back to back to give the impression that it's a trend. Again, standard liberal tactic. Too bad for them there are about 10 of them total.
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Re: NY Times Gets Punked=> Fake Groping Victim Used Velvet Underground Song to Describe Trumped-Up Attack
« Reply #124 on: October 13, 2016, 05:37:35 pm »
GatewayPundit is one of the most unreliable websites out there.
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