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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1250 on: Tuesday, Aug 04, 2015 03:32 am »
There are some among us who live in rooms of experience we can never enter.
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Freedom without virtue collapses into disorder.
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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1251 on: Wednesday, Aug 05, 2015 01:44 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nom7NiTLrFg

spinning sculptures   ...too cool
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1252 on: Thursday, Aug 06, 2015 01:15 pm »



WHOA!!!!     :laugh:
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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« Reply #1253 on: Monday, Aug 10, 2015 03:19 am »
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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"The growth of knowledge depends entirely upon disagreement." — Karl Popper

“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place." — Frederic Bastiat

“Perhaps we’ll have some answers, at least, before the end. I always dreamed of dying well-informed.” ― Joe Abercrombie, The First Law Trilogy

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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1255 on: Tuesday, Aug 11, 2015 11:34 am »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V9QHBgrPNY

Helium infused beer!   So funny!!    :laugh:
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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« Reply #1256 on: Tuesday, Aug 11, 2015 12:56 pm »
"The growth of knowledge depends entirely upon disagreement." — Karl Popper

“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place." — Frederic Bastiat

“Perhaps we’ll have some answers, at least, before the end. I always dreamed of dying well-informed.” ― Joe Abercrombie, The First Law Trilogy

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« Reply #1257 on: Tuesday, Aug 11, 2015 03:40 pm »
lol at Cher.
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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1258 on: Wednesday, Aug 12, 2015 03:16 pm »
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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« Reply #1259 on: Thursday, Aug 13, 2015 12:36 pm »
"The growth of knowledge depends entirely upon disagreement." — Karl Popper

“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place." — Frederic Bastiat

“Perhaps we’ll have some answers, at least, before the end. I always dreamed of dying well-informed.” ― Joe Abercrombie, The First Law Trilogy

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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1260 on: Thursday, Aug 13, 2015 12:42 pm »
BTW, if there's someone that's never quite figured out the reason behind the name of this thread, here's a clue:


The line of course, is from the Whiffenpoof Song, and we are the Whiffenpoof assembled.


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"The growth of knowledge depends entirely upon disagreement." — Karl Popper

“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place." — Frederic Bastiat

“Perhaps we’ll have some answers, at least, before the end. I always dreamed of dying well-informed.” ― Joe Abercrombie, The First Law Trilogy

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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1261 on: Thursday, Aug 13, 2015 07:39 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0aLMsh4mvU

Not a fan of Hip-Hop, but this is quite beautiful.
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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« Reply #1262 on: Thursday, Aug 13, 2015 10:30 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4B67RKdvwI

Mad Soul Child - The Man from Nowhere

She has such a heartbreaking voice!

See the movie ASAP.  Not a date movie, per se, unless your wife enjoys graphic violence.  No sex to speak of..it's the violence.

A story of an "off the grid" special forces agent in the I believe, the Korean or Chinese.  He suffers guilt that his wife was horrifically killed sitting in the car.

He becomes a pawnbroker, next door lives a little girl who's emotionally abused and bullied.  Her mother is a club dancer, and a hustler.

She calls him "Mister"...and the more he tries to detach himself from her, a bond forms.

The child is kidnapped after the mother stole drugs and was killed.

He swears to himself that he will save her.

An emotional journey, for sure.

The closing music is this piece.
« Last Edit: Friday, Aug 14, 2015 02:49 pm by DCPatriot »
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1263 on: Thursday, Aug 13, 2015 10:37 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xDEvGXMgnc


You can sleep when you're dead!      :beer:

Luis,  I know you're loving this.   :smokin:
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"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1264 on: Friday, Aug 14, 2015 05:49 am »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSd7FTaJGuA


Everybody should watch this EVERY morning BEFORE they leave the house or get on the forum.
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"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1265 on: Monday, Aug 17, 2015 07:46 pm »
And now, A Little Night Music.

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“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place." — Frederic Bastiat

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« Reply #1266 on: Wednesday, Aug 19, 2015 10:22 pm »
"The growth of knowledge depends entirely upon disagreement." — Karl Popper

“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place." — Frederic Bastiat

“Perhaps we’ll have some answers, at least, before the end. I always dreamed of dying well-informed.” ― Joe Abercrombie, The First Law Trilogy

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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1267 on: Wednesday, Aug 19, 2015 10:41 pm »
The answer is 42.

You are stupido.  (What is hispanic word for stupid -- no offense)

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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1268 on: Thursday, Aug 20, 2015 05:02 am »
The answer is 42.

You are stupido.  (What is hispanic word for stupid -- no offense)

Wrong answer.

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« Reply #1269 on: Thursday, Aug 20, 2015 05:35 am »
10. (Y si recuerdo mi español, es "estupido," no "stupido.")
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« Reply #1270 on: Thursday, Aug 20, 2015 05:36 am »
10. (Y si recuerdo mi español, es "estupido," no "stupido.")

Winner, winner!

Chicken dinner!
"The growth of knowledge depends entirely upon disagreement." — Karl Popper

“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place." — Frederic Bastiat

“Perhaps we’ll have some answers, at least, before the end. I always dreamed of dying well-informed.” ― Joe Abercrombie, The First Law Trilogy

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« Reply #1271 on: Thursday, Aug 20, 2015 07:33 am »
Winner, winner!

Chicken dinner!

That's what the cows said.   :whistle:
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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1272 on: Thursday, Aug 20, 2015 07:41 am »
That's what the cows said.   :whistle:

Now THAT'S funny.
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« Reply #1273 on: Thursday, Aug 20, 2015 07:42 am »
10. (Y si recuerdo mi español, es "estupido," no "stupido.")

10.' - Usted recordar perfectamente

Wow... I am rusty!
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« Reply #1274 on: Friday, Aug 21, 2015 12:45 pm »
"The growth of knowledge depends entirely upon disagreement." — Karl Popper

“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place." — Frederic Bastiat

“Perhaps we’ll have some answers, at least, before the end. I always dreamed of dying well-informed.” ― Joe Abercrombie, The First Law Trilogy

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« Reply #1275 on: Friday, Aug 21, 2015 07:24 pm »
"The growth of knowledge depends entirely upon disagreement." — Karl Popper

“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place." — Frederic Bastiat

“Perhaps we’ll have some answers, at least, before the end. I always dreamed of dying well-informed.” ― Joe Abercrombie, The First Law Trilogy

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« Reply #1276 on: Thursday, Aug 27, 2015 04:50 pm »
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1277 on: Friday, Aug 28, 2015 07:50 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW1dUnBhwL8

Hotel California...a different take.

YOU MUST WATCH THIS VIDEO!   You can thank me later!   :laugh:

The 'guitar solo' at the 4 minute mark will definitely hypnotize you.....   :beer:
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"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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« Reply #1278 on: Saturday, Aug 29, 2015 10:23 am »
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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« Reply #1279 on: Sunday, Aug 30, 2015 01:05 pm »
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1280 on: Thursday, Sep 10, 2015 06:35 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPd67CEL54E




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3DY1_zijgA

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Even look a little like him!   Thanks again, Andy!    :beer:
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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« Reply #1281 on: Saturday, Sep 12, 2015 04:28 am »
A serious but touching moment for our table at Mory's:

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Published on Sep 10, 2015
Pulte Homes will surprise wounded Army veteran Staff Sgt. Shawn Whitmore and his family at Thursday's Myrtle Beach Pelicans game with the announcement that they have been selected to receive a mortgage-free home in the Pulte Homes Berkshire Forest community. The home is being built as part of PulteGroup’s Built to Honor program, which donates mortgage-free homes to wounded veterans and their families across the country. The project is in partnership with Operation FINALLY HOME.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McGmOpSPdNA
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« Reply #1282 on: Saturday, Sep 12, 2015 04:38 am »
There are some among us who live in rooms of experience we can never enter.
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Freedom without virtue collapses into disorder.
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« Reply #1283 on: Monday, Sep 14, 2015 04:02 am »


Walt Disney would never approve!    :laugh:
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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« Reply #1284 on: Wednesday, Sep 16, 2015 06:26 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QzleRO1F6E

Wow!   :beer:  A completely different interpretation of Jessie's Girl! 

My son, who lives Hip-Hop....from the Tupak/GRS II days says this could be a new genre.

Taking songs from the "old days" and working them with a different beat.  A Hip-Hop rhythm.   Layering.

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"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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« Reply #1285 on: Thursday, Sep 17, 2015 03:48 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7KpGWMCGH4

Daryl Hall is such a gift.

He can sing this song a thousand times and he delivers EVERY time.

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"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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« Reply #1286 on: Thursday, Sep 17, 2015 03:57 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPo_KUkQXv4


This is called OWNING A SONG!    :beer:   Turn it up....
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"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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« Reply #1287 on: Friday, Sep 18, 2015 02:10 am »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QzleRO1F6E

Wow!   :beer:  A completely different interpretation of Jessie's Girl! 

My son, who lives Hip-Hop....from the Tupak/GRS II days says this could be a new genre.

Taking songs from the "old days" and working them with a different beat.  A Hip-Hop rhythm.   Layering.

Thank you for that DCP!
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« Reply #1288 on: Friday, Sep 18, 2015 08:45 am »
There are some among us who live in rooms of experience we can never enter.
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« Reply #1289 on: Friday, Sep 18, 2015 08:47 am »
Scientists, like all discoverers of truth, have always asked, "What?” “How?” “Why?” “What if?” and “Why not?” Questioning science is science.

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« Reply #1290 on: Monday, Sep 21, 2015 04:45 pm »
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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« Reply #1292 on: Tuesday, Sep 22, 2015 07:33 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCC0MVa_UWQ


One of my favorite albums...er, CDs!!   Turn up the volume for this one.....   :laugh:
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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« Reply #1294 on: Tuesday, Sep 22, 2015 08:06 pm »
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That was awesome!
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"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1295 on: Wednesday, Sep 23, 2015 01:24 pm »
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1296 on: Thursday, Sep 24, 2015 07:39 pm »
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1297 on: Friday, Sep 25, 2015 07:35 pm »
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1298 on: Friday, Sep 25, 2015 07:50 pm »
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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1299 on: Wednesday, Oct 07, 2015 07:16 pm »


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« Last Edit: Wednesday, Oct 07, 2015 07:17 pm by DCPatriot »
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now