Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5

[Luis Gonzalez]

Vance:  "It's a Persian negotiating tactic and a Persian rhetorical device that I don't understand."


Mr. VP, if you don't understand, then step aside for someone who does.

https://twitter.com/Worldsource24/status/2072041329123799195

[verga]

Shocked at the cuteness.  Every other WNBA player I've seen is "woof status"

hate to disagree.
https://1075thefan.com/playlist/baller-babes-most-beautiful-women-in-the-wnba/item/11

[BobfromWB]

World Source News
@Worldsource24

WSJ: President Trump has weighed a return to all-out war with Iran, holding multiple conversations in recent days with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Dan Caine on more strikes, but has decided to stick with diplomatic talks for now.

The conversations have centered on whether the U.S. should abandon negotiations and resume full-scale attacks on Iran,the officials said, a move some of them describe as “finishing the job.” While not making a final decision, Trump has told aides he believes another round of full-scale attacks could derail diplomacy and hurt Washington’s chances of ultimately dismantling Iran’s nuclear program.

https://wsj.com/world/middle-east/trump-briefed-on-all-out-war-options-in-iran-but-opts-to-stick-with-talks-98304b5b?mod=hp_lead_pos4



8:11 PM  ·  Jun 30, 2026  ·  6,366 Views

https://x.com/Worldsource24/status/2072126032065245545

Must have been Tuesday ...

[Timber Rattler]

JD openly admitting his incompetence at negotiating with Persians.

 

[BobfromWB]

JD openly admitting his incompetence at negotiating with Persians.

 

The Persians are not negotiating. They are ruling class Arabs.

Beyond that, JD is just incompetent in general, while being a Pit Bull for 47's clown show.

[mystery-ak]

Report: Trump Weighed Return to Iran War, Chooses Diplomacy for Now

U.S. President Donald Trump recently weighed whether to resume a broad military campaign against Iran after reviewing military options with senior officials, but has opted for now to continue pursuing diplomacy in hopes of securing a lasting agreement over Tehran’s nuclear program, according to a report published Tuesday evening.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2026/06/30/report-trump-weighed-return-iran-war-chooses-diplomacy-fornow/

[corbe]

[mystery-ak]

 Iran says it won’t ‘allow’ other countries to de-mine the Strait of Hormuz
By Caitlin Doornbos
Published June 30, 2026

Iran will not “allow” other countries to de-mine the Strait of Hormuz, declaring only Tehran will take on the responsibility, according to its foreign ministry — despite expert analysis that it doesn’t have the capability.

“Demining is to be carried out exclusively by Iran and by no other country,” Kazem Gharibabadi said in a post on X. “In principle, we will not allow any other country to do so.”

It came after French President Macron said on Monday that France agreed with Oman to assist in clearing the strait of mines as part of a coalition with allies.

“We have decided to collaborate jointly, in coordination with our partners, on demining the strait to secure maritime routes and ensure free and unconditional passage through the Strait of Hormuz,” Macron posted to X following Omani Sultan Haitham bin Tarik first-ever state visit to Paris.

The statement invited backlash from Tehran, which is working with Oman on plans to maintain the strait once fully reopened.

more
https://nypost.com/2026/06/30/us-news/iran-says-it-wont-allow-other-countries-to-demine-the-strait-of-hormuz/

[DefiantMassRINO]

You can't "negotiate" with the Iranians.  The mullahs and the IRGC need to go ... with ol' fashioned Cold War covert insurgent tactics to spare America another endless nation-building occupation.

America is great at winning on the battlefield, but terrible at winning the Peace.

[Free Vulcan]

Persian negotiation is alot like union negotiation - play a bunch of silly games to muddy the waters till you are frustrated and give in.

The solution is a simple breaking of kneecaps and ball bat to the head. Lock down the strait, get the border nations together to provide security, bring in rapid response special forces and Marines, and every time they attack, destroy the source, bring in troops to kill the rest, then go back to base. Iran gets no oil revenue.

Wash rinse repeat till they are no longer functioning because they're all dead.

[Cyber Liberty]

Iran says it won’t ‘allow’ other countries to de-mine the Strait of Hormuz
By Caitlin Doornbos
Published June 30, 2026

Iran will not “allow” other countries to de-mine the Strait of Hormuz, declaring only Tehran will take on the responsibility, according to its foreign ministry — despite expert analysis that it doesn’t have the capability.

“Demining is to be carried out exclusively by Iran and by no other country,” Kazem Gharibabadi said in a post on X. “In principle, we will not allow any other country to do so.”

It came after French President Macron said on Monday that France agreed with Oman to assist in clearing the strait of mines as part of a coalition with allies.

“We have decided to collaborate jointly, in coordination with our partners, on demining the strait to secure maritime routes and ensure free and unconditional passage through the Strait of Hormuz,” Macron posted to X following Omani Sultan Haitham bin Tarik first-ever state visit to Paris.

The statement invited backlash from Tehran, which is working with Oman on plans to maintain the strait once fully reopened.

more
https://nypost.com/2026/06/30/us-news/iran-says-it-wont-allow-other-countries-to-demine-the-strait-of-hormuz/

“In principle."  These jackwagons will literally say anything....and we have Members who will believe it!

[Cyber Liberty]

Persian negotiation is alot like union negotiation - play a bunch of silly games to muddy the waters till you are frustrated and give in.

The solution is a simple breaking of kneecaps and ball bat to the head. Lock down the strait, get the border nations together to provide security, bring in rapid response special forces and Marines, and every time they attack, destroy the source, bring in troops to kill the rest, then go back to base. Iran gets no oil revenue.

Wash rinse repeat till they are no longer functioning because they're all dead.

We have the means to do exactly that. What is Trump waiting for?  Christmas?  Democrats in Congress to say, "Boy, howdy?"

[Luis Gonzalez]

Persian negotiation is alot like union negotiation - play a bunch of silly games to muddy the waters till you are frustrated and give in.

The solution is a simple breaking of kneecaps and ball bat to the head. Lock down the strait, get the border nations together to provide security, bring in rapid response special forces and Marines, and every time they attack, destroy the source, bring in troops to kill the rest, then go back to base. Iran gets no oil revenue.

Wash rinse repeat till they are no longer functioning because they're all dead.

The Art of Ta'arof.

[Cyber Liberty]

The Art of Ta'arof.

One of your finer contemporary works, out of a enormous body of work!  I wish Trump, Kushner, Witkoff et all would read it!  Have you considered writing to the PTB at Townhall.com?  They could really use a writer of your caliber!  They have a new Editor in Chief....

[verga]

Persian negotiation is alot like union negotiation - play a bunch of silly games to muddy the waters till you are frustrated and give in.

The solution is a simple breaking of kneecaps and ball bat to the head. Lock down the strait, get the border nations together to provide security, bring in rapid response special forces and Marines, and every time they attack, destroy the source, bring in troops to kill the rest, then go back to base. Iran gets no oil revenue.

Wash rinse repeat till they are no longer functioning because they're all dead.

@Free Vulcan Two problems with that:
1) That will require a protracted time period and Trump will need to go to congress over the "War Powers Act"
2) how long do you think it will be before the media stirs everyone up over the whole "No boots on the ground"?
You are correct that this would be the best way to go all things being equal,but they are not.

[DefiantMassRINO]

Trump had his window of opportunity, but he whiffed.

Time for Plan B ... if he hasn't fired everyone in the CIA.

[verga]

The Art of Ta'arof.

Thank you, Great read.

[Timber Rattler]

US said weighing pulling troops from Saudi Arabia amid major tensions with Riyadh over Iran war

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-said-weighing-pulling-troops-from-saudi-arabia-amid-major-tensions-with-riyadh-over-iran-war/

US-Saudi relations have significantly deteriorated in recent months amid anger in Riyadh over Washington’s decision to launch a war against Iran that has caused massive blowback for the rest of the region, a Middle Eastern intelligence official tells The Times of Israel, confirming a Wall Street Journal report.

Saudi Arabia refused to allow the US to use its bases in order to conduct Project Freedom, which was aimed at breaking Iran’s control over the Strait of Hormuz by escorting stuck ships out of the channel.

Saudi bases and airspace were critical to the operation and Riyadh’s refusal to cooperate forced the US to abort the mission, the WSJ reveals. At the time, US President Donald Trump claimed that it was progress in talks with Iran that led him to call off Project Freedom after less than two days.

Infuriated by the Saudi decision, the White House threatened to hold back the delivery of interceptors that Riyadh had been using to shoot down Iranian missiles and drones, WSJ says, citing US and Arab officials familiar with the matter.

Riyadh subsequently relented and Project Freedom resumed covertly, but the damage wouldn’t be easily undone, US officials say.

EXCERPT

The truth finally comes out...the Saudis were NEVER onboard with smiting Iran.  Screw them too!

Trump went ahead with the war, anyway, exacerbating Saudi concerns that its investment in the relationship with the US president wasn’t translating into actual influence over American policy, Arab officials tell the Journal.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Thank you, Great read.

Glad you enjoyed it.

[Luis Gonzalez]

One of your finer contemporary works, out of a enormous body of work!  I wish Trump, Kushner, Witkoff et all would read it!  Have you considered writing to the PTB at Townhall.com?  They could really use a writer of your caliber!  They have a new Editor in Chief....

I’ve been looking around for a place to submit a piece to. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Timber Rattler]

How the Iran War Ignited a Clash Between Trump and the Saudi Crown Prince

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/01/us/politics/trump-saudi-crown-prince-iran.html

President Trump and his military commanders were in a bind.

They had announced the start of a new mission to help guide commercial ships through the Strait of Hormuz, which Iran had effectively closed early in the war. U.S. naval and air power would ward off any Iranian attacks during a tentative cease-fire, the commanders said.

But U.S. Central Command was caught by surprise when officials from Saudi Arabia said American forces could not use the kingdom’s air space for the mission, which the Pentagon was calling Project Freedom. The Americans had not consulted the Saudis.

That set off a flurry of tense and urgent phone calls between Washington and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the leader of Saudi Arabia. An outraged Mr. Trump spoke with him on May 4, the first day of the operation, and on the next two days as well, U.S. officials said.

Vice President JD Vance talked to the prince in a separate call, as did Steve Witkoff, the special envoy to the Middle East, and Jared Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law. Marco Rubio, the White House national security adviser, spoke to his counterpart.

But the crown prince stood his ground, fearing that the American plan could reignite war. The Trump administration was forced to shut down Project Freedom less than 48 hours after it had begun.

“They had lost confidence in the administration, and they thought if they let the U.S. use their airspace, they would get hit even harder by Iran,” said Hussein Ibish, a scholar at the Arab Gulf States Institute in Washington.

EXCERPT

I've got a sinking feeling that this *might* be the REAL reason that Trump called off the dogs on Iran...that the U.S. has become entirely too dependent on the Saudis for basing and logistics for heavy lift military operations in the region, and as soon as the Saudis bucked, the big bombing game was over.

[berdie]

How the Iran War Ignited a Clash Between Trump and the Saudi Crown Prince

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/01/us/politics/trump-saudi-crown-prince-iran.html

EXCERPT

I've got a sinking feeling that this *might* be the REAL reason that Trump called off the dogs on Iran...that the U.S. has become entirely too dependent on the Saudis for basing and logistics for heavy lift military operations in the region, and as soon as the Saudis bucked, the big bombing game was over.


I think you are most likely correct. But what is the alternate staging area?

[Cyber Liberty]

Screw the Saudis. Let them deal with the Shiites on their own.  Maybe they can send them 11 suicide hijackers to crash planes into THEIR skyscrapers for a change, they're so good at it....

[Smokin Joe]

I wanna be her sex puppet.

Dunno. She has one of those "church lady" fingers...a fearsome device of social scorn, indeed.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Netanyahu claims he saved Israel from destruction as Iran ‘already obtained’ atomic bomb
Times of Israel, Jul 1, 2026

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in an interview Tuesday night, claimed that he saved Israel from an Iranian nuclear bomb that they “already had obtained,” a claim that his election rivals dismissed as a falsehood told to scare the Israeli public.

The statement, which Netanyahu made during his appearance on the right-wing Channel 14, was the first time that the premier had ever claimed that Iran had already obtained a nuclear weapon. He has long boasted of advancing policies that prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.

He did not elaborate on his claim in the interview and was not pressed to explain the statement.

Netanyahu apparently either got carried away in highlighting the threat from Iran and his steps against the regime or simply misspoke, given that a source familiar with the matter told Haaretz that Netanyahu’s claim is a “complete lie.”

No previous US or Israeli intelligence assessments have previously accused Iran of already building nuclear weapons.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-claims-he-saved-israel-from-destruction-as-iran-already-obtained-atomic-bomb/

[Hoodat]

NEXTA
@nexta_tv

Anti-corruption raid in Iraq shocks officials

Authorities searching the home of Iraqi MP Hind Al-Abbasi uncovered a staggering stash: $57 million in cash, 27 kg of gold, and even gold-made underwear.



7:30 PM  ·  Jul 1, 2026  ·  65.7K Views

https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/2072477855984890337

[Timber Rattler]

That gold-plated bikini doesn't look very practical...

 

[BobfromWB]

NEXTA
@nexta_tv

Anti-corruption raid in Iraq shocks officials

Authorities searching the home of Iraqi MP Hind Al-Abbasi uncovered a staggering stash: $57 million in cash, 27 kg of gold, and even gold-made underwear.



7:30 PM  ·  Jul 1, 2026  ·  65.7K Views

https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/2072477855984890337

Cash gifts from 0bama? 

The apparel is only for special occasions and is only worn for a few minutes before being discarded ...

[Camp]

The Saudi's are a problem.

None the less this is still looking like it will implode the IRGC...just slower than some would like.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl_a2ldwTbEasmkasmk

[mystery-ak]

 Ali Khameni’s body likely in ‘cold storage’ as Iran prepares historic funeral for Supreme Leader killed in Operation Epic Fury
By Emma Bussey, Fox News
Published July 1, 2026, 10:19 p.m. ET

Tehran is preparing for the July 9 burial of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, more than four months after his death, as authorities mobilize the Basij militia and mount a massive security operation ahead of what is expected to be a “historic” turnout.

The lengthy delay to the funeral has raised questions about how Khamenei’s remains have been preserved, as Islamic tradition, analysts say, generally calls for prompt burial and discourages chemical embalming.

“The mechanism is almost certainly refrigerated cold storage, not embalming, as Islam bars chemical embalming,” counterterrorism expert Dr. Mohammed Omar told Fox News Digital.

“Shia law allows delayed burial and preservation by cold in exceptional cases, and a clerical exemption for a Supreme Leader is easy to get,” he added.

“Iran’s forensic morgues already hold bodies for months, so four months in freezing is not exotic. That is what ‘religious and legal standards’ cover,” Mohammed said.

Operation Epic Fury began on Feb. 28 with a targeted U.S. strike that killed Khamenei at his compound in Tehran. He had ruled the Islamic Republic for 36 years.

more
https://nypost.com/2026/07/01/world-news/ali-khamenis-body-likely-in-cold-storage-as-iran-prepares-historic-funeral-for-supreme-leader/

[240B]

Sorry I have been absent from the thread for a while. But I have been branded 'a fool' by the Administrator.
So, nothing I can say. I will still post now and then, but not on this thread. Hope you guys enjoy.

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on June 29, 2026, 21:07:12

You have bitched nonstop about every damned thing Trump has done and said about Iran since February 28, and have taken Iran's statements as true. I laugh too.  You are a fool.

Cyber Liberty

Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #2076 on: June 30, 2026, 11:19:45 »
Quote

I took heat for that comment, and I stand by it!

Apparently bitching nonstop about every damned thing Trump has done and said about Iran since February 28, makes me a fool.
No bitching about Trump is allowed! Dammit! And I stand by that!
240B is a fool!! And I stand by that too! Obviously 240B is working for Iran, the Mullahs, and the IRGC!

(nothing is more "foolish" than doubling down on a mistake)

[BobfromWB]

Sorry I have been absent from the thread for a while. But I have been branded 'a fool' by the Administrator.
So, nothing I can say. I will still post now and then, but not on this thread. Hope you guys enjoy.

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on June 29, 2026, 21:07:12

You have bitched nonstop about every damned thing Trump has done and said about Iran since February 28, and have taken Iran's statements as true. I laugh too.  You are a fool.

Cyber Liberty

Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #2076 on: June 30, 2026, 11:19:45 »
Quote

I took heat for that comment, and I stand by it!

Apparently bitching nonstop about every damned thing Trump has done and said about Iran since February 28, makes me a fool.
No bitching about Trump is allowed! Dammit! And I stand by that!
240B is a fool!! And I stand by that too! Obviously 240B is working for Iran, the Mullahs, and the IRGC!

(nothing is more "foolish" than doubling down on a mistake)

I agree - 47 is an idiot on foreign policy.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Sorry I have been absent from the thread for a while. But I have been branded 'a fool' by the Administrator.
So, nothing I can say. I will still post now and then, but not on this thread. Hope you guys enjoy.

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on June 29, 2026, 21:07:12

You have bitched nonstop about every damned thing Trump has done and said about Iran since February 28, and have taken Iran's statements as true. I laugh too.  You are a fool.

Cyber Liberty

Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #2076 on: June 30, 2026, 11:19:45 »
Quote

I took heat for that comment, and I stand by it!

Apparently bitching nonstop about every damned thing Trump has done and said about Iran since February 28, makes me a fool.
No bitching about Trump is allowed! Dammit! And I stand by that!
240B is a fool!! And I stand by that too! Obviously 240B is working for Iran, the Mullahs, and the IRGC!

(nothing is more "foolish" than doubling down on a mistake)

Here. I spruced it up for you.

No one in this forum should be forced to wear off-the-rack avatar for Chrissakes!



.

[Bigun]

Sorry I have been absent from the thread for a while. But I have been branded 'a fool' by the Administrator.
So, nothing I can say. I will still post now and then, but not on this thread. Hope you guys enjoy.

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on June 29, 2026, 21:07:12

You have bitched nonstop about every damned thing Trump has done and said about Iran since February 28, and have taken Iran's statements as true. I laugh too.  You are a fool.

Cyber Liberty

Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #2076 on: June 30, 2026, 11:19:45 »
Quote

I took heat for that comment, and I stand by it!

Apparently bitching nonstop about every damned thing Trump has done and said about Iran since February 28, makes me a fool.
No bitching about Trump is allowed! Dammit! And I stand by that!
240B is a fool!! And I stand by that too! Obviously 240B is working for Iran, the Mullahs, and the IRGC!

(nothing is more "foolish" than doubling down on a mistake)

@Cyber Liberty was flat out wrong in saying @240B "bitched nonstop about every damned thing Trump has done and said about Iran since February 28."

As I recall 240B was cheering Trump's actions in Iran on until he took his foot off the gas and let them come up for air. The same as most others here were doing.

Time to move on.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Our Father… thank you so much for not allowing The Internet and social media to be invented by Al Gore’s granddad before WWII

[Cyber Liberty]

Sorry I have been absent from the thread for a while. But I have been branded 'a fool' by the Administrator.
So, nothing I can say. I will still post now and then, but not on this thread. Hope you guys enjoy.

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on June 29, 2026, 21:07:12

You have bitched nonstop about every damned thing Trump has done and said about Iran since February 28, and have taken Iran's statements as true. I laugh too.  You are a fool.

Cyber Liberty

Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #2076 on: June 30, 2026, 11:19:45 »
Quote

I took heat for that comment, and I stand by it!

Apparently bitching nonstop about every damned thing Trump has done and said about Iran since February 28, makes me a fool.
No bitching about Trump is allowed! Dammit! And I stand by that!
240B is a fool!! And I stand by that too! Obviously 240B is working for Iran, the Mullahs, and the IRGC!

(nothing is more "foolish" than doubling down on a mistake)

I edited that comment to say you are "foolish," not a fool.  You are indeed foolish if you believe the Iranians, which you clearly do while insisting Donald Trump lies about everything. I'll call you on that.  Many times Trump was proven correct, and did you acknowledge it?  NO! 

[Cyber Liberty]

@Cyber Liberty was flat out wrong in saying @240B "bitched nonstop about every damned thing Trump has done and said about Iran since February 28."

As I recall 240B was cheering Trump's actions in Iran on until he took his foot off the gas and let them come up for air. The same as most others here were doing.

Time to move on.

I'll move on, as it were, but if he doesn't, well you know.  I have no patience for this shit!

[mystery-ak]

 

This is one of the most contentious threads we have ever had on TBR...what a shame.

How many members are we going to lose because of it!

[Bigun]

This is one of the most contentious threads we have ever had on TBR...what a shame.

How many members are we going to lose because of it!

It's contentious because it needs to be!

If members are so thin skined that they can't handle some contention who needs them? Chill!

[mystery-ak]

Six Kurdish fighters killed in IRGC ambush as clashes spread across western Iran
US-Kurdish Committee president says clash is not full uprising, but it's not 'business as usual' as Iran pressures opposition
 By Efrat Lachter Fox News
Published July 2, 2026 4:53pm EDT

Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps said Thursday it killed five members of the Democratic Party of Iranian Kurdistan, while the Kurdish opposition group told Fox News Digital that six of its Peshmerga — a term commonly used for Kurdish fighters — were killed in what it described as an Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps ambush in northwest Iran.

The clash marks another escalation in Iran’s Kurdish-majority west after days of reported attacks and clashes involving Iranian security forces, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and Kurdish armed factions.

It also underscores the current position of Iranian Kurdish opposition groups that recently were viewed by U.S. and Israeli officials as a possible pressure point against Tehran during the U.S.-Israeli war with Iran, but ultimately stayed out of the conflict amid mixed signals from Washington and pressure from both Iran and Turkey.

Majeed Gly, president of the American Kurdish Committee, told Fox News Digital that the latest clashes should not be read as a full-scale uprising, but also should not be dismissed as routine border violence.

"What I’m hearing is, this is not business as usual," Gly said. "This is not like periodic clashes on the border. This is operations, and it seems to be deep inside."

Gly said Kurdish frustration has grown sharply after months of Iranian attacks on Kurdish areas and opposition-linked sites, including in the Kurdistan Region of Iraq. He said the region has been hit by more than 850 attacks since February, leaving at least six civilians dead and dozens more wounded.

Hejar Berenji, the U.S. representative of the Democratic Party of Iranian Kurdistan, or PDKI, confirmed to Fox News Digital that six PDKI Peshmerga were killed in a clash with IRGC forces in the Piranshahr area of Iranian Kurdistan.

Iran’s Revolutionary Guards said it had killed five members of the banned PDKI in northwest Iran, Reuters reported Thursday, citing state media. The IRGC said the group was ambushed after entering Iranian territory in mountainous border areas near Piranshahr in West Azerbaijan Province.

more
https://www.foxnews.com/world/six-kurdish-fighters-killed-irgc-ambush-clashes-spread-across-western-iran

[mystery-ak]

Thread #6

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=584826.0