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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #2000 on: Sunday, Jun 28, 2026 02:08 pm »
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Iran will never follow through on any MOU.
Iran will never agree to a deal.
Iran will never give up its nuclear ambitions.
Iran will never voluntarily give up control of the Strait.
Iran will never stop supporting terrorists proxies.
Iran will never be a normal country under this regime.

She's not wrong.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #2002 on: Sunday, Jun 28, 2026 02:29 pm »

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #2003 on: Sunday, Jun 28, 2026 02:44 pm »
Iran - talented experienced 'adult' con-men, are fighting a so-called 'war' with stupid naïve children.
Like taking candy from a baby. Yea, yea, sure man ... peace baby ... peace all the way man
Ceasefire1 ceasefire2 ceasefire3-4-5-6 ceasefires until we can finish our bomb 60 days at a time.
You know, 'for peace'. What a naïve fool. I said Trump was Jimmy Carter. He proves it every day.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #2004 on: Sunday, Jun 28, 2026 02:53 pm »
During the Iran-Iraq war, Iran took a bunch of teens, gave them a motorbikes, hung a religious trinket around their necks, and sent them off to clear Saddam's mine fields.

How long before Iran takes a bunch of teens, hangs religious trinket around their necks, sends them down tunnels, and tells them to collect all the centrifuge material they can find? If they haven't already ...
Great way to run out of religious teens.
They also used developmentally disabled 'kids' to clear paths through minefields.

They are not 'nice' people.
With Congress barking at Trump's back over the war Powers Resolution, he has little choice but to play this the way he is. There's a peace accord (no, not a Treaty, which requires Congressional approval), but a cease fire.
Now, outside the War Powers act, we can retaliate when they break the agreement.
Who, in Congress, is going to come out against hitting back when you're hit, especially with the mid terms approaching?

In the mean time, they gather viable equipment, and when they use it, we destroy it.
The question is: Does the MOU reset the 60 day clock?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #2005 on: Sunday, Jun 28, 2026 03:07 pm »
THIS is what I call an endless war. 
In case you might not have noticed in history, Islam demands an endless war.

Since Muhammed began butchering his countrymen in the guise of a religious crusade, the only reason Islam exists is to prevent peace, period.

I say it again, there will never be peace until there are no Muslims left, whether by force or persuasion.

Their religion demands no end until only Muslims exist on this planet.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #2006 on: Sunday, Jun 28, 2026 03:09 pm »
In ten weeks, we can move in a drilling rig, drill 4 2-mile laterals, and move that rig to another pad and do it again.

Surely, the Iranians can reach into their dug out tunnels and set up some (likely mobile) missile launchers and radars.
That's the reason to ensure no one tries to do that by detonating one or more nuclear devices over the site and the surrounding area
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #2007 on: Sunday, Jun 28, 2026 03:19 pm »
That's the reason to ensure no one tries to do that by detonating one or more nuclear devices over the site and the surrounding area
That's why we need a B61-11 that can either penetrate hard rock (crystalline igneous rock as opposed to softer sedimentary rock) or function as a follow-on weapon after the road has been opened by GBU-57s, using the same entry point.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #2008 on: Sunday, Jun 28, 2026 03:32 pm »

THIS is what I call an endless war.
Me too.
However Trump says that it is not a war, if there is a fake imaginary ceasefire that he can continue to lie about.

Trump will tolerate anything, ignore anything, apologize for anything, to keep the illusion that his 'ceasefire' is actually real. Iran knows this. Iran has all the leverage on Trump. Trump's diffidence and pusillanimity has given Iran the upper-hand, and they are laughing at him.

It's a not a endless war; it is a endless 'ceasefire'. That is way, way, much different according to Trump. And Iran loves it.
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« Reply #2009 on: Sunday, Jun 28, 2026 03:40 pm »
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« Reply #2010 on: Sunday, Jun 28, 2026 03:42 pm »
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« Reply #2011 on: Sunday, Jun 28, 2026 03:44 pm »
It's a not a endless war; it is a endless 'ceasefire'. That is way, way, much different according to Trump. And Iran loves it.

Kind of like the ceasefire we had with Iraq in 1991.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #2012 on: Sunday, Jun 28, 2026 03:50 pm »
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Iran will never follow through on any MOU.
Iran will never agree to a deal.
Iran will never give up its nuclear ambitions.
Iran will never voluntarily give up control of the Strait.
Iran will never stop supporting terrorists proxies.
Iran will never be a normal country under this regime.

:yowsa: Very true!
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #2013 on: Sunday, Jun 28, 2026 04:01 pm »
An Iranian lawmaker warned Sunday that Tehran will continue to control the Strait of Hormuz, declaring that other nations must submit to Iran's rules.

"We unequivocally support the ever-victorious Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' decisive action against the American enemy and the assertion of Iranian sovereignty over the Strait of Hormuz," Ebrahim Rezaei, spokesperson for the Parliament's Foreign Policy and National Security Commission, said in a post shared on X.

"The Strait of Hormuz will not return to its previous state, and others have no choice but to submit to Iran's directives in the Strait," he added.

Rezaei's remarks came after President Donald Trump said on June 27 that the U.S. military would "complete the job" if Tehran did not comply with the ceasefire agreement.

The interim Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between Tehran and Washington includes provisions governing control of the Strait of Hormuz intended to guarantee toll-free passage for vessels for a 60-day period.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #2014 on: Sunday, Jun 28, 2026 04:01 pm »
Of course



Oil prices rose on Monday after fresh military strikes involving the United States and Iran over the weekend, highlighting the fragility of the Middle East ceasefire and affecting energy shipments through the Strait of Hormuz.

According to Reuters, Brent crude futures rose 50 cents, or 0.69%, to $72.49 per barrel by 10:04 p.m. GMT, while U.S. West Texas Intermediate crude futures gained 73 cents, or 1.05%, to $69.96 per barrel.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #2015 on: Sunday, Jun 28, 2026 04:09 pm »
Me too.
However Trump says that it is not a war, if there is a fake imaginary ceasefire that he can continue to lie about.

Trump will tolerate anything, ignore anything, apologize for anything, to keep the illusion that his 'ceasefire' is actually real. Iran knows this. Iran has all the leverage on Trump. Trump's diffidence and pusillanimity has given Iran the upper-hand, and they are laughing at him.

It's a not a endless war; it is a endless 'ceasefire'. That is way, way, much different according to Trump. And Iran loves it.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #2016 on: Sunday, Jun 28, 2026 04:32 pm »

Kind of like the ceasefire we had with Iraq in 1991.
I was thinking an endless ceasefire like we have with North Korea <- which is a dangerous radical nuclear armed rogue State just like Iran will become with an endless ceasefire.

It is hard for me to believe that the Trump Administration is really this STUPID. I used to be sure there was some 'secret plan' or a 'hidden agenda' and eventually they will do what anyone with any common sense can easily see must be done. I no longer believe that. Now, I think they really are just silly naïve fools.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #2017 on: Sunday, Jun 28, 2026 05:43 pm »
Yay.  Another non-ceasefire.  Trump getting strung along again with the Tehran Two-Step.
Trump is stringing THEM along.  He just wants to get passed the midterms at this point with low oil prices.  So far so good....

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« Reply #2018 on: Sunday, Jun 28, 2026 05:47 pm »
That's why we need a B61-11 that can either penetrate hard rock (crystalline igneous rock as opposed to softer sedimentary rock) or function as a follow-on weapon after the road has been opened by GBU-57s, using the same entry point.
Trying to penetrate something that hard has to be incredibly difficult.  I guess the dolphins with lasers mounted on them is out.  happy77

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« Reply #2019 on: Sunday, Jun 28, 2026 06:32 pm »
She's not wrong.
No.
And the more who realize that, the sooner this can be sorted out once and for all.
In the meantime all the TDS and pro-regime propaganda needs to be overcome, and demonstration is the only way to do that.

Ultimately, Iran cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons.
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« Reply #2020 on: Sunday, Jun 28, 2026 06:38 pm »
Trying to penetrate something that hard has to be incredibly difficult.  I guess the dolphins with lasers mounted on them is out.  happy77
Yep. Detonate a nuclear bunker buster too shallow, and all that gets accomplished is a fallout mess over the region. Maybe the Iranians would be denied access to whatever is below, but the region would suffer.
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 Iran must develop nuclear bomb to protect ‘peace and calm,’ IRGC media says — despite pledge to Trump
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Published June 28, 2026, 9:31 a.m. ET

Iran has “no choice” but to develop a nuclear bomb, a media outlet linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps said — the latest threat to the peace deal.

The article, titled “No choice but to build the atomic bomb,” claims that Iran must negotiate with its enemies from a position of strength, and was published by Iranian state news outlet Fars on Sunday.

“To achieve the peace and calm that Iran needs, it must absolutely reach nuclear deterrence to ensure that the rest of the issues can be resolved through negotiation,” thunders the piece, before comparing Iran’s situation with the US to that of China in the 1970s.

“America threatened China with nuclear attack twice — similar to Trump’s recent nuclear threats against Iran — but when did Kissinger secretly meet with the Chinese and then negotiate? It was when China built the atomic bomb,” the article continues.

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🚨 HOLY CRAP! Iran just got on their knees and begged and PLEADED for a meeting with President Trump’s team, and it will take place TOMORROW

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🚨 HOLY CRAP! Iran just got on their knees and begged and PLEADED for a meeting with President Trump’s team, and it will take place TOMORROW

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Iran has requested another time out to resupply, rebuild, and get started on its nascent ICBM and nuclear bomb building - programs now on steroids.

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Trump's ego won't let him admit that he made a mistake tyring to negotiate with Iran.

Trump's ego won't allow him to admit he made a mistake letting Netanyahu talk him into going to war with Iran.

Trump is being snookered by Putin and the mullahs, but his ego keeps pushing him to double down on the mistaken delusion that he can make a deal with these people.

Trump is more consistent with his enemies than his allies, because he views his enemies as strong while views his allies as weak because they need him or something he has.

Trump can abuse his allies because he thinks he has leverage over them, while he lacks such leverage over his enemies.

In Trump's mind, allies are chumps because they can't stand on their own without his help while enemies are worthy adversaries because they don't need his help.

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Iran has requested another time out to resupply, rebuild, and get started on its nascent ICBM and nuclear bomb building - programs now on steroids.

Head fakes work!!!

Yep....will this be another 60 day ceasefire so *we can talk*... 9999hair out0000
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Well this is a non-starter



Iranian foreign minister claims Tehran has sole authority over Strait of Hormuz

Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi claimed Sunday that Tehran has sole and complete authority over the Strait of Hormuz.

Iranian state media quoted the official as saying that Iran alone is responsible for managing and reopening maritime traffic through the strait.

“No other country or institution has any responsibility in this regard,” Araghchi said.

Iran's influence over the strait has proven to be its most effective playing card in negotiations with the U.S.

Delegations from the U.S. and Tehran are set to meet for talks in Doha, Qatar on Tuesday.
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Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian claims Iran is set to receive $6 billion in frozen funds from Qatar as a prerequisite to peace talks with the U.S. this week.

U.S. officials say no frozen Iranian funds have been released, however.

“Based on the plans made, $6 billion out of the total $12 billion of Iranian resources in Qatar will be released and returned to the country, and necessary follow-ups are being carried out,” Pezeshkian said in a statement.

Qatar also has not announced any transfer of funds to Tehran.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Tehran has deployed a new front on Western social media, including a covert influence campaign to sway Americans and undermine President Donald Trump's push for a nuclear deal, experts warned Sunday.

Following the February U.S. strikes on Iran that decapitated much of Tehran's leadership and the signing of an interim memorandum of understanding (MOU) between Tehran and Washington, the analysts also claim Iranian officials are relying more on digital proxies to project centralized control.

"Iran's leadership now lives on X because it is a decapitated leadership," counterterrorism expert Dr. Omar Mohammed told Fox News Digital.

"The regime has moved its legitimacy contest onto a platform, and once you are fighting there, you optimize for it," Mohammed, of the George Washington Program on Extremism, added.

"There are English, screenshot-ready lines, memeable contempt and civilizational pride. It is adaptation under pressure — an influence operation forced by the fact that the men running Iran can no longer stand at a podium."

After Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei was killed on Feb. 28, the regime's senior leadership was largely eliminated, and the new leader, Mojtaba Khamenei, is in hiding. Mohammed said Iran's digital messaging has since become more centralized.

"The coordination between the leadership is visible: You watch the same lines reposted verbatim by the judiciary chief, the vice president and the security council within minutes," the expert explained.

"That is a central media shop pushing copy, not officials independently moved by the same spirit at the same moment. And the register gives it away."

According to Mohammed, the regime's X accounts serve as a manufactured proxy for the leadership vacuum while exploiting political divisions in the United States, a strategy that he says surfaced even more after Trump signed a new peace deal on June 17 in Versailles.

This is an excerpt from an article by Fox News' Emma Bussey.
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« Reply #2033 on: Today at 08:15 am »
Yep....will this be another 60 day ceasefire so *we can talk*... 9999hair out0000

What's your suggestion @mystery-ak ?

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What's your suggestion @mystery-ak ?

I have no suggestions other than I am sick of this story...you have to admit if this was a Dem President we would all be condemning his actions...but since it isn't  888mouth
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« Reply #2035 on: Today at 08:29 am »
What we are witnessing is Trump exposing the root of the instability and as long as the Arab nations and Pakistan stand with the US and abandon the IRGC we can eventually see an actual peaceable solution.

It will take time.  There is a method here beyond crying wolf.

The IRGC must be isolated and exposed as the source of the ongoing instability.

I do hope this is how it unfolds.
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« Reply #2036 on: Today at 08:31 am »
Distinctly remember Pres. Trump saying "The Strait will be opened...is opened for business!"

IRGC stick their heads up...?  BAM!  POW! BANG!

They are NOT signatories to any MOU...nor any ceasefire.  Just another layer of BS when dealing with Iranians.
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If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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I have no suggestions other than I am sick of this story...you have to admit if this was a Dem President we would all be condemning his actions...but since it isn't  888mouth

Personally, I have no problem with condemnation --- condemn away.   But, it's not enough.   What would you like to see happen here @mystery-ak ?

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What we are witnessing is Trump exposing the root of the instability and as long as the Arab nations and Pakistan stand with the US and abandon the IRGC we can eventually see an actual peaceable solution.

It will take time.  There is a method here beyond crying wolf.

The IRGC must be isolated and exposed as the source of the ongoing instability.

I do hope this is how it unfolds.

So do I! Sincerely!

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« Reply #2039 on: Today at 08:52 am »
Distinctly remember Pres. Trump saying "The Strait will be opened...is opened for business!"

IRGC stick their heads up...?  BAM!  POW! BANG!

They are NOT signatories to any MOU...nor any ceasefire.  Just another layer of BS when dealing with Iranians.


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Personally, I have no problem with condemnation --- condemn away.   But, it's not enough.   What would you like to see happen here @mystery-ak ?

What would I like to see will never happen.

Decimate the IRGC and Mullahs...liberate the Iranian people and install the Shaw or a leader that will create a government for the people...

Trump was right at the beginning of this *war*...*bomb them back to the stone ages* but he neglected to understand that their mindset has never advanced beyond that.

All of this would would require boots on the ground which brings me to admit I don't want to see another war in the ME....been there and done that!
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