Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5

[Cyber Liberty]

I was hoping a Charter Member of this Forum would be a little more sensitive to this POV, but I guess I was very wrong!

[Bigun]

If being 100% onboard with Making America Great Again makes me a cultist so be it!

[massadvj]

Calling MAGA a “cult” in a forum or political context doesn’t land as a technical term. It lands as a loaded label.

I certainly hope so. I would hate to fail at being provocative.

[Luis Gonzalez]

I certainly hope so. I would hate to fail at being provocative.

MY MAN!!!
 

[Cyber Liberty]

I certainly hope so. I would hate to fail at being provocative.

Thank you for your lack of concern. FWIW, I now view you in a different light.

[massadvj]

If being 100% onboard with Making America Great Again makes me a cultist so be it!

And may I say that no carries the label with more decency and sincerity than you, Earl. 

[240B]

Trump announces ‘great settlement’ on Iran, but the world awaits details

The Hill
by Niall Stanage
06/11/26

This time it’s different — maybe.

President Trump announced a “great settlement of the war with Iran” when he spoke to reporters in the Oval Office Thursday afternoon.

It was an abrupt turn, even by his standards, from a morning social media post in which he pledged that the United States was about to hit Iran “VERY HARD” and that it would be “taking” the economically vital Kharg Island “in the not too distant future.”

He called off those strikes in a subsequent post announcing the purported deal.

Trump has insisted that an agreement is imminent numerous times since the war began on Feb. 28, with joint U.S. and Israeli strikes on Iran. Earlier this week, CNN tallied at least 38 times when the president had made such a claim.

The difference this time lies in seemingly specific details.

Trump suggested a signing of the agreement could happen as soon as Saturday or Monday, at which point shipping traffic in the Strait of Hormuz would begin flowing freely.

The ceremony, Trump added, would likely be in Europe. He said he would be unable to attend but that Vice President Vance would do so.

The agreement purportedly has the backing of numerous other nations. In his social media post, Trump said that in addition to the U.S., “Israel, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Turkey, Pakistan, Bahrain, Kuwait, Jordan, Egypt, and others” were all on board.

Trump’s apparent confidence fueled a broader optimism — including on financial markets. The Dow Jones Industrial Average and the S&P 500 both closed up by almost 2 percent, and the Nasdaq showed even stronger gains, advancing more than 2.5 percent.

But skeptics note there is a good deal of squishiness just underneath Trump’s supposedly solid promises.

For a start, it is not clear right now whether the Iranians are, in fact, signed up.

(more)
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5920985-trump-iran-memorandum/

TACO Trump

[Bigun]

And may I say that no carries the label with more decency and sincerity than you, Earl. 

Thank you! I do try! And let me say at this point that I think all this foolishness about making a deal with the Mullahs is setting MAGA back terribly.

[rustynail]

Anyone care for some Flavor Aid?

[Luis Gonzalez]

If you want to understand what Trump is doing, look up the word ta’arof.

[massadvj]

I was hoping a Charter Member of this Forum would be a little more sensitive to this POV, but I guess I was very wrong!

Just for the record I never wrote a single word criticizing you or anyone else personally for holding an opinion, and I never will. I hold you, and everyone else on this forum, in the highest regard.

I am very sorry my sensitivity does not meet your expectations.

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/2065192349245026475

[mystery-ak]

Mossad Commentary
@MOSSADil
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MOJTABA KHAMENEI REJECTS U.S. PEACE DEAL: IRANIAN LEADERSHIP REPORTEDLY DIVIDED

Reports indicate Iran’s Supreme Leader, Mojtaba Khamenei, will not approve the proposed peace deal with the United States.

Sources claim Iranian negotiators signaled the deal was ready, but the decision was reportedly announced by Parliament Speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf and Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi without Khamenei’s approval.

If accurate, it raises serious questions about whether mediators were misled regarding Iran’s true position. 🇮🇷🇺🇸

[240B]

Trump declares Iran peace deal DONE and calls off strikes... as Israel and Tehran give VERY awkward response

Daily Mail
By ROSS IBBETSON
11 June 2026



Donald Trump has canceled strikes against Iran and claimed that a peace deal is closer than ever, as Tehran's most senior leaders have approved the agreement.

The President said that the 'final points' have been 'approved by all parties involved,' including Israel and America's Arab allies, and claimed the accord simply needed to be signed with a 'time and place' to be announced shortly.

Iran has not yet approved any text for an agreement, state media outlet Fars reported.

A senior Israeli official told local broadcaster Channel 12: 'We are not aware of any agreement being reached.'

Trump's latest claim comes just hours after he said that the US was planning to seize Iran's Kharg Island oil depot and strike the country 'very hard tonight.'

He wrote on Truth Social: 'Based on the fact that discussions with the Islamic Republic of Iran have been brought to the highest level of Iranian leadership and approved, I have, as President of the United States of America, canceled the scheduled strikes and bombings against Iran this evening.

'Discussions and final points have been, in both concept and great detail, approved by all parties involved, including the United States, Israel, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Turkey, Pakistan, Bahrain, Kuwait, Jordan, Egypt and others.

'The Naval Blockade will remain in full force and effect until this Transaction is finalized - Time and place of the signing to be announced shortly.'

(more)
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15893001/Trump-CANCELS-strikes-sensationally-claims-Irans-leaders-agreed-peace-deal.html

Trump is lying to give him an excuse to cancel any new bombings. Trump is a coward and a liar.

[Wingnut]

Evidently the Gay, one legged Ahattola is not onboard.

[Wingnut]

The art of the deal seems to be missing the deal part.

[rustynail]

If you want to understand what Trump is doing, look up the word ta’arof.

Interesting, thanks.  Ta’arof is in some ways similar to Southern Hospitality.

[massadvj]

If you want to understand what Trump is doing, look up the word ta’arof.

What Trump is doing? Or what the Iranians are doing?

[mystery-ak]

Evidently the Gay, one legged Ahattola is not onboard.

I still think he's dead..

[Idiot]

I happen to be a retired marketing professor. The term "brand cult" is a real thing, in fact I have even published science on the subject:

https://digitalcommons.kennesaw.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1164&context=ama_proceedings

If MAGA is not a brand cult, then there is no such thing.

Ok...MAGA is a brand cult...  NEXT. 

It's just sad that Iran is doing the rinse - repeat thing over and over again and Trump falls for it every time.....grrrrrr.

[Idiot]

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/2065192349245026475

Bomb the sh!t out of them, this is ridiculous and our president is looking like a friggen fool.

[Cyber Liberty]

Bomb the sh!t out of them, this is ridiculous and our president is looking like a friggen fool.

I agree!

[Smokin Joe]

Carrying out a war without congressional authorization. The 60-day window is already closed, and congress has put him on notice that they do not authorize the use of ground troops.

If Trump uses ground troops and succeeds, then every Republican in congress will claim to have supported him all along. If he fails, he will have nary a friend in the world.

The question is moot because this statement from Trump is likely more bluster in trying to get a negotiated settlement. I am still betting on TACO.

I look at it this way. They've had a ceasefire, flawed though it may be. Just like North and South Korea, but a lot shorter, and a bit more violated.

If Kim decided to invade the south would he have to go to Congress hat-in-hand to do anything? (No. I don't think so.)

Now for Iran, the minute a ceasefire was declared, that should reset the clock.

Fresh hostile acts from the Iranians can be used to justify action.