Guess Who’s Funding the Revolt Against AI and Data Centers?

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

https://committeetounleashprosperity.com/hotlines/guess-whos-funding-the-revolt-against-ai-and-data-centers/

China! Ching chong china.

[mountaineer]

There does seem to be a lot of hysteria out there. I read a rather long newspaper article the other day that not once described these alleged threats to health and the environment - just assumed there were some. I'd like to get the whole story.

[Cyber Liberty]

There does seem to be a lot of hysteria out there. I read a rather long newspaper article the other day that not once described these alleged threats to health and the environment - just assumed there were some. I'd like to get the whole story.

Apparently an AI Center uses a prodigious amount of electricity to run the Data Servers, and also require a lot of water to cool them.  Outside of that, I don't know what dangers there are for health and environment.  It's interesting to me none of these concerns were ever raised about wind farms or solar development.

I think the water issue alone would make Arizona unattractive for AI Centers, not to mention the high temperatures over most of the state (we do have some high altitude land that's cooler, like Flagstaff).

[Sighlass]

Huge electricity draws mean electric companies have to beef up things, but when the AI centers suddenly stop using the massive draw (my understanding is they have their own generators) on the lines it makes huge problems for the electric companies lines downstream. Power lines were not designed to take huge loads of unused electricity. Home Solar at least had a system where it would not except excess power when not needed (thus it made it sometimes unprofitable to resale power to electric companies when the sun was full blazing). Right now big Data Centers don't really have a safety switch... It is on or off, and being massive draws on power can cause a lot of headaches.

My two cents.

[Bigun]

Apparently an AI Center uses a prodigious amount of electricity to run the Data Servers, and also require a lot of water to cool them.  Outside of that, I don't know what dangers there are for health and environment.  It's interesting to me none of these concerns were ever raised about wind farms or solar development.

I think the water issue alone would make Arizona unattractive for AI Centers, not to mention the high temperatures over most of the state (we do have some high altitude land that's cooler, like Flagstaff).

What would prevent closed loop cooling systems? What prevents a data center from installing its own generators? Much of this anti data center BS is nothing more than turf protection BS. Convince me of my error.

[DCPatriot]

There does seem to be a lot of hysteria out there. I read a rather long newspaper article the other day that not once described these alleged threats to health and the environment - just assumed there were some. I'd like to get the whole story.

I recall homes adjacent to high-power lines were more difficult to sell back in the 1980's...the fear of Leukemia or cancer for the homeowner's family.

[Drago]

There is some "grass roots" (non-China funded) opposition to large data centers...one issue not mentioned here yet is noise pollution. Water use is high initially, but then it is "closed loop" and water use is then reduced (some steam losses). Electricity use is a biggie because it is driving up the price per kWh for residential customers. The noise pollution issue is discussed in these videos:

https://youtu.be/gc5XZJfF0kQ?si=Tk6hVO8-tloWNLQi

https://youtu.be/AHPKPmoW910?si=HxQ4MoPfTOGlC3Lw

https://youtube.com/shorts/9ByT2TU02DM?si=FnmBqGB5VqDD1wiF

A "leftie" discusses the data center issues...(parental guidance suggested): 
https://youtu.be/_bP80DEAbuo?si=WHtHnHQgspEi3Dwq