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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #900 on: May 10, 2026, 11:46:25 am »

When you have been able to effectively destroy Iran's military AND leadership in a couple of weeks....what's the bleeping hurry?   Why the impatience??

We're watching them closely by orbital satellites and high altitude drones, etc..

IMO, the IRGC spoke with the good Lord and He told them "President Trump and the USA will be okay, but you???  You're pretty much bleeped"
Of course he can obliterate Iran in a few hours, but I will NEVER understand why he stopped Project Freedom?
I cannot find a reason why he would do that. It was working great.

By cancelling it, Trump stranded dozens of ships in the gulf for months. The only ones who wanted it stopped was Iran, because it was working.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #902 on: May 10, 2026, 12:12:08 pm »
Iranian drone strikes US-owned tanker ship, owner says

The U.S,-owned “Neha” trade ship was attacked by two Iranian drones in the Persian Gulf on Sunday, the chairman of Safesea Group, SV Anchan, told Fox News Digital.

One drone hit the ship while the other missed. The vessel was empty of cargo at the time of the attack and was anchored near Doha.

The ship had 23 sailors aboard and no injuries were reported.

Fox News' Lauren Simonetti contributed to this report.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #903 on: May 10, 2026, 12:12:27 pm »
Well it is working so far...
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #904 on: May 10, 2026, 12:13:04 pm »
Iran has sent its response to US peace proposal to Pakistani mediators, Iranian media says

Iran's leadership sent a response to the latest U.S. peace proposal to mediators in Pakistan on Sunday, Iranian state media reported.

The report did not offer details about the contents of the response.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #905 on: May 10, 2026, 12:14:36 pm »
US forces have redirected 61 commercial ships, disabled 4 in Iran blockade


https://twitter.com/CENTCOM/status/2053486893120000274

U.S. Central Command says U.S. forces have redirected at least 61 commercial vessels as part of the ongoing blockade on Iranian ports as of Sunday.

"USS John Finn (DDG 113) sails behind USS Milius (DDG 69), USNS Carl Brashear (T-AKE-7), and USS George H.W. Bush (CVN 77) in the Arabian Sea," CENTCOM wrote.

"Over 20 U.S. warships are enforcing the blockade against Iran. CENTCOM forces have redirected 61 commercial vessels and disabled 4 to ensure compliance," it added.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #906 on: May 10, 2026, 12:26:05 pm »
When you have been able to effectively destroy Iran's military AND leadership in a couple of weeks....what's the bleeping hurry?   Why the impatience??

We're watching them closely by orbital satellites and high altitude drones, etc..

IMO, the IRGC spoke with the good Lord and He told them "President Trump and the USA will be okay, but you???  You're pretty much bleeped"

The IRGC only speaks to Allah, not the Christian Lord. They are not the same. Allah tells them they will survive because the Americans have shown they are inherently weak, their negotiators stupid, and cannot finish the war they started.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #907 on: May 10, 2026, 03:49:00 pm »
Trump blasts Iran for decades of deception, says will no longer be 'laughing' at US

President Donald Trump said Sunday that Iran has been playing with the United States for decades while warning Tehran that their laughing at America would end.

“Iran has been playing games with the United States and the rest of the World, for 47 years (DELAY, DELAY, DELAY!) and then finally hit “pay dirt” when Barack Hussein Obama became President,” Trump said in a post shared on Truth Social.

“He was not only good to them, he was great, actually going to their side, jettisoning Israel, and all other Allies and giving Iran a major and very powerful new lease on life, “ Trump added.

“Hundreds of Billions of Dollars, and 1.7 Billion Dollars in green cash, flown into Tehran, was handed to them on a silver platter,” he said before adding that every bank in D.C., Virginia, and Maryland was “emptied out”

“It was so much money that when it arrived, the Iranian Thugs had no idea what to do with it. They had never seen money like this, and never will again. It was taken off the plane in suitcases and satchels, and the Iranians couldn’t believe their luck” he said.

“They finally found the greatest SUCKER of them all, in the form of a weak and stupid American President. He was a disaster as our “Leader,” but not as bad as Sleepy Joe Biden!” Trump added.

“For 47 years the Iranians have been “tapping” us along, keeping us waiting, killing our people with their roadside bombs, destroying protests, and recently wiping out 42,000 innocent, unarmed protestors, and laughing at our now GREAT AGAIN Country. They will be laughing no longer!” he warned
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #908 on: May 10, 2026, 03:49:36 pm »
Unheeded lessons from the US warship nearly sunk by an Iranian mine
A strangely amnesiac effect seems to surround the threat of underwater weapons that wait.
Bradley Peniston | April 14, 2026
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Thirty-eight years ago today, an Iranian mine tore a hole in the hull of the USS Samuel B. Roberts, a guided missile frigate that had been escorting reflagged Kuwaiti tankers through the Strait of Hormuz. The blast broke the frigate's keel, flooded its engineroom, and lit fires on several decks. Only its well-trained crew saved the Roberts from sinking.

The story has become a touchstone of Navy schoolhouses, where instructors exhort officers and enlisted sailors alike to take seriously the grueling business of damage control. But a strangely amnesiac effect seems to surround the threat of mines.

The attack on the Roberts came nearly a year after Iranian minelayers had first taken U.S. planners by surprise. In early 1987, Washington agreed to shepherd Kuwaiti tankers through the Persian Gulf, where Iran and Iraq were striking at each other's economic jugulars. Operation Earnest Will began with a four-ship convoy: three U.S. Navy warships surrounding the supertanker Bridgeton. Within hours, the giant ship hit a mine. The Bridgeton’s double hull enabled her to sail onward. But the thin-skinned warships followed in her wake, huddling behind the damaged tanker for safety.

"The assumption that the Iranians 'wouldn’t dare' was shattered,” an official Navy history recounts. “The incident also revealed that despite all the preparation for the convoy, the United States had virtually no mine-warfare assets in the Arabian Gulf. Further convoys were postponed during the scramble to deploy eight MH-53 Sea Stallion mine-warfare helicopters and eventually eight ocean-going minesweepers (MSOs) and six coastal minesweepers (MSCs)."


https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2026/04/lessons-navy-warship-iran-mine/412852/?oref=d1-skybox-hp
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #909 on: May 10, 2026, 03:49:44 pm »
Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian said Sunday that any talks do not mean Iran will surrender, appearing to reference negotiations that were underway with the United States.

“We will never bow our heads before the enemy, and if talk of dialogue or negotiation arises, it does not mean surrender or retreat,” Pezeshkian said in a post shared on X.

“Rather, the goal is to uphold the rights of the Iranian nation and to defend national interests with resolute strength,” he said.

His remarks came as Tehran sent a response to the latest U.S. peace proposal to mediators in Pakistan, Iranian state media reported.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #910 on: May 10, 2026, 03:50:55 pm »
Iran warns UK, France against naval moves in Strait of Hormuz

Iran’s deputy foreign minister warned Sunday against efforts by the United Kingdom and France to deploy naval assets to the Strait of Hormuz, vowing an "immediate response" to any Western intervention in the waterway.

"The presence of French and British vessels, or those of any other country, for any possible cooperation with illegal U.S. actions in the Strait of Hormuz that violate international law will be met with a decisive and immediate response from the armed forces," Kazem Gharibabadi said in a post on X.

Gharibabadi also said the deployment of "extra-regional destroyers" under the guise of protecting shipping is merely a "pretext" for escalating the ongoing crisis.

French President Emmanuel Macron attempted to de-escalate the tension Sunday.

"That has never been an option for France," Macron told reporters during a visit to Kenya. He noted that France instead had proposed an international mission co-led by the U.K. to ensure the resumption of traffic "in coordination with Iran, as soon as conditions permit."

The French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle and its strike group transited the Suez Canal toward the Red Sea on May 6 to remain "at the ready."

The U.K. Ministry of Defence also confirmed it was sending HMS Dragon to the Middle East and said the vessel is being "pre-positioned" to support an international coalition’s effort to secure the strait when conditions allow.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #911 on: May 10, 2026, 03:58:21 pm »
Iran warns UK, France against naval moves in Strait of Hormuz

Iran’s deputy foreign minister warned Sunday against efforts by the United Kingdom and France to deploy naval assets to the Strait of Hormuz, vowing an "immediate response" to any Western intervention in the waterway.

"The presence of French and British vessels, or those of any other country, for any possible cooperation with illegal U.S. actions in the Strait of Hormuz that violate international law will be met with a decisive and immediate response from the armed forces," Kazem Gharibabadi said in a post on X.

Gharibabadi also said the deployment of "extra-regional destroyers" under the guise of protecting shipping is merely a "pretext" for escalating the ongoing crisis.

French President Emmanuel Macron attempted to de-escalate the tension Sunday.

"That has never been an option for France," Macron told reporters during a visit to Kenya. He noted that France instead had proposed an international mission co-led by the U.K. to ensure the resumption of traffic "in coordination with Iran, as soon as conditions permit."

The French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle and its strike group transited the Suez Canal toward the Red Sea on May 6 to remain "at the ready."

The U.K. Ministry of Defence also confirmed it was sending HMS Dragon to the Middle East and said the vessel is being "pre-positioned" to support an international coalition’s effort to secure the strait when conditions allow.
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"...in coordination with Iran..."

Why does Iran get to "coordinate" international water ways?

Europe is pathetic.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #912 on: May 10, 2026, 05:13:12 pm »
Trump rejects Iran proposal as 'totally unacceptable'

President Donald Trump on Sunday sharply dismissed Iran’s multipage proposal, signaling potential and continued deadlock in negotiations to end the war.

“I have just read the response from Iran’s so-called “Representatives.” I don’t like it — TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE!” Trump said in a post shared on Truth Social.

According to reports, Iran’s response — delivered through Pakistani mediators — failed to address Washington’s core demand for advance commitments on the future of its nuclear program and uranium reserves.
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Iran counterproposal leaves US key demand on nuclear program unresolved: reports

Iran submitted a multipage response Sunday to the latest U.S. proposal to end the war, outlining its demands but leaving gaps between the two sides, according to reports.

The Wall Street Journal reported that Iran’s response, delivered through Pakistani mediators, left unresolved Washington’s demand for advance commitments on the future of Tehran’s nuclear program and its stockpile of highly enriched uranium.

The outlet cited sources saying the proposal noted nuclear issues would be negotiated over the next 30 days.

Iran also proposed diluting part of its highly enriched uranium stockpile and transferring the remainder to a third country, the Wall Street Journal said.

According to Reuters, Iran’s new proposal also stressed the need to end the war on all fronts.

Citing the Tasnim News Agency and a source, the outlet said Iran’s proposal also included a request for guarantees against any renewed attacks.

Iran’s proposed text also underlines the necessity of ending the U.S. blockade of Iranian ports “following the signing of an initial understanding,” the outlet reported.

Iran’s proposed text for negotiations with the U.S. underlines the necessity of lifting U.S. sanctions.

Iran’s proposal also called for rescinding the U.S. Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) sanctions related to Iranian oil sales during a 30-day period, the outlet said.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #913 on: May 10, 2026, 06:14:53 pm »
Trump rejects Iran proposal as 'totally unacceptable'

President Donald Trump on Sunday sharply dismissed Iran’s multipage proposal, signaling potential and continued deadlock in negotiations to end the war.

“I have just read the response from Iran’s so-called “Representatives.” I don’t like it — TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE!” Trump said in a post shared on Truth Social.

According to reports, Iran’s response — delivered through Pakistani mediators — failed to address Washington’s core demand for advance commitments on the future of its nuclear program and uranium reserves.
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Iran counterproposal leaves US key demand on nuclear program unresolved: reports

Iran submitted a multipage response Sunday to the latest U.S. proposal to end the war, outlining its demands but leaving gaps between the two sides, according to reports.

The Wall Street Journal reported that Iran’s response, delivered through Pakistani mediators, left unresolved Washington’s demand for advance commitments on the future of Tehran’s nuclear program and its stockpile of highly enriched uranium.

The outlet cited sources saying the proposal noted nuclear issues would be negotiated over the next 30 days.

Iran also proposed diluting part of its highly enriched uranium stockpile and transferring the remainder to a third country, the Wall Street Journal said.

According to Reuters, Iran’s new proposal also stressed the need to end the war on all fronts.

Citing the Tasnim News Agency and a source, the outlet said Iran’s proposal also included a request for guarantees against any renewed attacks.

Iran’s proposed text also underlines the necessity of ending the U.S. blockade of Iranian ports “following the signing of an initial understanding,” the outlet reported.

Iran’s proposed text for negotiations with the U.S. underlines the necessity of lifting U.S. sanctions.

Iran’s proposal also called for rescinding the U.S. Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) sanctions related to Iranian oil sales during a 30-day period, the outlet said.
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In a normal situation it would be "bombs away", but in this situation it will likely be status quo.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #914 on: May 10, 2026, 06:26:02 pm »
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #916 on: May 10, 2026, 06:54:44 pm »

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2053593286938374569
If Trump doesn't act after that response from Iran, I'll be very disappointed.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #917 on: May 10, 2026, 07:06:39 pm »
If Trump doesn't act after that response from Iran, I'll be very disappointed.

Some of us were very disappointed when 47 ended Epic Fury, and its been all downhill since. So prepare yourself, in case.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #918 on: May 10, 2026, 07:14:42 pm »
I'm pulling for a resumption of bombing, hopefully more intense than before.  This latest response from Iran looks like it pissed Trump off.  A series of demands from the losers, with not one drop of change.  Enough's enough! Bombs  away.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #919 on: May 10, 2026, 07:18:23 pm »
I'm pulling for a resumption of bombing, hopefully more intense than before.  This latest response from Iran looks like it pissed Trump off.  A series of demands from the losers, with not one drop of change.  Enough's enough! Bombs  away.

I'm still at "anything short of complete removal of the Mullah regime is total failure".
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« Reply #920 on: May 10, 2026, 07:33:07 pm »
I'm still at "anything short of complete removal of the Mullah regime is total failure".

Want the Islamic Religion outlawed globally. 
No way those bleeping freaks should have possession of nuclear material of any kind.
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If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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« Reply #921 on: May 10, 2026, 08:05:42 pm »
Want the Islamic Religion outlawed globally. 
No way those bleeping freaks should have possession of nuclear material of any kind.
Good luck with that...

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« Reply #922 on: May 10, 2026, 08:06:51 pm »
Good luck with that...

Yeah....   **nononono*
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #923 on: May 10, 2026, 08:10:08 pm »
Every day I wake up and check the news fully expecting to hear that Iran has been destroyed overnight.
Instead of that I am hit with a stream of arrogant bellicose insulting 'statements' coming from the side that lost the war.

Trump's sudden paralysis is beyond explanation. I understand that Trump is not a fool.
I understand that Trump always has a plan. But seriously man, What the hell are you waiting for?
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Islam sanitizes oppression. Islam rebrands cruelty as culture, and expects applause from Liberal fools for their Islamic progressivism.
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If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #924 on: May 10, 2026, 09:23:56 pm »
Trump Rejects Iran’s Latest Response as ‘Totally Unacceptable’ — ‘They Will Be Laughing No Longer’

President Donald Trump on Sunday rejected Iran’s latest response to the American offer to end the conflict as “TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE,” warning Tehran it would “be laughing no longer” after reports indicated the regime refused key U.S. nuclear demands while pushing for sanctions relief, frozen assets, an end to the naval blockade, and control over the Strait of Hormuz.


https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/2053581347084501106

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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2026/05/10/trump-rejects-irans-latest-response-as-totally-unacceptable-they-will-be-laughing-no-longer/
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #925 on: May 10, 2026, 11:57:39 pm »
   I'm gonna fillup my car tonight.

That sounds like a good idea...
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« Reply #926 on: May 11, 2026, 12:15:30 am »
I'm still at "anything short of complete removal of the Mullah regime is total failure".

Same here.
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« Reply #927 on: May 11, 2026, 12:20:14 am »
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #928 on: May 11, 2026, 02:27:26 am »
Every day I wake up and check the news fully expecting to hear that Iran has been destroyed overnight.
Instead of that I am hit with a stream of arrogant bellicose insulting 'statements' coming from the side that lost the war.

Trump's sudden paralysis is beyond explanation. I understand that Trump is not a fool.
I understand that Trump always has a plan. But seriously man, What the hell are you waiting for?

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If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #929 on: May 11, 2026, 07:20:55 am »
The 11 were uranium bombs, these are plutonium bombs.
I realize that but Nuclear is Nuclear. Either they have enough for 11 or enough for 200, big difference between 11 and 200.
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« Reply #930 on: May 11, 2026, 07:24:30 am »
 pointing-down
I'm still at "anything short of complete removal of the Mullah regime is total failure".
pointing-up
Anything less will just be a continuation of the same tired "kill America, Death to Americans" Game.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #931 on: May 11, 2026, 07:36:03 am »
What the hell are you waiting for?

47 is waiting for the Chinese visit to be over, then for the mid-terms. If the GOP wins and wins big, then, if 47 is still interested and not totally bored with the whole Iran thing, then maybe, if there are enough munitions to finish to bombing campaign, Epic Fury could resume. But mostly likely, there will be another round of pointless "negations". The Mad Mullahs survive, therefore, they win again.

As for the Straits being opened and the uranium and plutonium extracted, don't hold your breath. Both require either the 12ers are overthrown by the Iranian people or US/Israeli troops on the ground to ensure both are accomplished. Chances of either happening are near Zero to None. The Mad Mullahs survive, therefore, they win again.

By the tine the "negotiations" are done, 47 will be almost out of office, and the can kicked down the road until the Iranians have working nukes and use them. At that point, "serious negotiations"will commence ... The Mad Mullahs survive or become martyrs, therefore, they win again.

No Western power has the political will to take them out. In fact since WWII ended, Western powers have suffered a deficit of political will to do more than perpetuate their own helplessness in the face of hard decisions; there is always some excuse or other.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #932 on: May 11, 2026, 07:42:04 am »
I realize that but Nuclear is Nuclear. Either they have enough for 11 or enough for 200, big difference between 11 and 200.

The difference is between the TYPES of nuclear weapon materials. The 11 are made using uranium, the other 200 are made using plutonium. So they have, in total, 211 potential nuclear weapons.

The 11 are easy to make compared to the 200 plutonium weapons, which require testing, unless given help from North Korea, Pakistan, China, or Russia.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #933 on: May 11, 2026, 08:38:45 am »
Trump to Netanyahu on Iran Deal: Israel a ‘Great Ally,’ but Deal Is ‘My Business Not Anyone Else’s’

President Donald Trump reportedly told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that the negotiations between the United States and Iran to end the ongoing conflict are Trump’s “business, not anyone else’s.”

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2026/05/10/trump-to-netanyahu-on-iran-deal-israel-a-great-ally-but-deal-is-my-business-not-anyone-elses/
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #934 on: May 11, 2026, 08:43:48 am »
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Saudi Aramco CEO Amin Nasser says if the Strait of Hormuz opens today, then it will still take months for the market to rebalance.

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https://x.com/FaytuksNetwork/status/2053814088463970602




Yet rebalance it will.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #936 on: May 11, 2026, 08:59:46 am »
Trump to Netanyahu on Iran Deal: Israel a ‘Great Ally,’ but Deal Is ‘My Business Not Anyone Else’s’

President Donald Trump reportedly told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that the negotiations between the United States and Iran to end the ongoing conflict are Trump’s “business, not anyone else’s.”

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2026/05/10/trump-to-netanyahu-on-iran-deal-israel-a-great-ally-but-deal-is-my-business-not-anyone-elses/

Only reason he stated this was because he realizes the level of hatred toward Jewish People and Israel, and he doesn't want and/or need distractions or interruptions when dealing with this rug merchant mentality.
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« Reply #937 on: May 11, 2026, 09:46:42 am »
Only reason he stated this was because he realizes the level of hatred toward Jewish People and Israel, and he doesn't want and/or need distractions or interruptions when dealing with this rug merchant mentality.

You have the inside word, or is that just a guess?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #939 on: May 11, 2026, 10:27:31 am »
Is anybody other than Trump surprised by this? Everybody, including his own generals, advisors, and staff, kept telling him what was going to happen.
And even if Iran agreed to ALL of Trump's demands, it would be completely meaningless. Iran does not give a single shit about ANY agreement or "deal".
Iran thinks Trump is a fool. They no longer have any respect or fear of him or his bombastic threats. Iran simply does not believe him anymore.
Sometimes, the enemy of my enemy, is also my enemy.
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You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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« Reply #940 on: May 11, 2026, 10:34:07 am »
Is anybody other than Trump surprised by this? Everybody, including his own generals, advisors, and staff, kept telling him what was going to happen.
And even if Iran agreed to ALL of Trump's demands, it would be completely meaningless. Iran does not give a single shit about ANY agreement or "deal".
Iran thinks Trump is a fool. They no longer have any respect or fear of him or his bombastic threats. Iran simply does not believe him anymore.
Yeah I think you are correct.  Trump pops off threatening them, then nothing seems to happen.  I'm moving towards the camp of....I just don't get it.

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« Reply #941 on: May 11, 2026, 10:34:43 am »
   So, I guess Trump saying "They want a deal so badly" the last two weeks was utter BS.
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« Reply #943 on: May 11, 2026, 10:49:33 am »
   So, I guess Trump saying "They want a deal so badly" the last two weeks was utter BS.
They were just playing Trump for a fool. Iran plays Trump like a yo-yo. And they laugh.
Trump is like a drug addict. He is addicted to 'making a deal'. Iran uses this for fun.
Sometimes, the enemy of my enemy, is also my enemy.
Islam sanitizes oppression. Islam rebrands cruelty as culture, and expects applause from Liberal fools for their Islamic progressivism.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #944 on: May 11, 2026, 10:54:51 am »
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Iran defends latest peace proposal, claims it seeks only 'legitimate rights'

Iran's Foreign Ministry defended its latest peace proposal under criticism from President Donald Trump on Monday, claiming they are not demanding any concessions from the U.S.

Iran's latest plan called for the U.S. to end its blockade of Iranian ports as well as drop sanctions against the country.

“We did not demand any concessions — the only thing we demanded was Iran’s legitimate rights,” Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Esmail Baghaei said Monday. “The American side still insists on its one-sided views and unreasonable demands.”

Trump has maintained that any peace deal with Iran must include provisions limiting Tehran's nuclear program and removing enriched uranium.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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« Reply #945 on: May 11, 2026, 10:56:04 am »
OMG

Trump considering restarting Project Freedom, he tells Fox News

President Donald Trump says he is considering renewing his short-lived "Project Freedom," but this time with an expanded scope beyond just escorting vessels through the Strait of Hormuz.

Trump made the statement during a Monday phone interview with Fox News' John Roberts. He said he has not made a final decision on restarting the project.

Trump first announced the initiative last week, but soon paused it amid peace talks with Tehran.
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« Reply #946 on: May 11, 2026, 11:21:45 am »
They were just playing Trump for a fool. Iran plays Trump like a yo-yo. And they laugh.
Trump is like a drug addict. He is addicted to 'making a deal'. Iran uses this for fun.

The Iranians had their eye on Trump ever since he popped off about OPEC in 2011.  They saw him "wing it" through his first term, until COVID, when he could no longer turn the page with every news cycle.  Republicans ignored his weaknesses and Iran studied them.  They will prolong this conflict until the democrats are swept into power, effectively ending his presidency.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #947 on: May 11, 2026, 11:30:38 am »
OMG

Trump considering restarting Project Freedom, he tells Fox News

President Donald Trump says he is considering renewing his short-lived "Project Freedom," but this time with an expanded scope beyond just escorting vessels through the Strait of Hormuz.

Trump made the statement during a Monday phone interview with Fox News' John Roberts. He said he has not made a final decision on restarting the project.

Trump first announced the initiative last week, but soon paused it amid peace talks with Tehran.
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It's almost like Trump is baiting the Iranians to attack us so that he can have the green light to start the strikes back up.  In the meanwhile we just sit and wait.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #948 on: May 11, 2026, 11:31:45 am »
My only guess at this point is they believe Iran already has the bomb and now it is a matter of managing it without one going off.
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