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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #700 on: May 05, 2026, 01:40:45 pm »
French President Emmanuel Macron will speak with Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian on Tuesday.
Why, to arrange the terms of France's surrender?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #701 on: May 05, 2026, 03:34:26 pm »
Why, to arrange the terms of France's surrender?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #702 on: May 05, 2026, 03:59:32 pm »
Wouldn't he be more likely to augment the negotiating team and extend the cease fire?  @DCPatriot    :pondering:

Heck no!  The man doesn't stutter.

The entire premise of engaging Iran today is to keep the Bomb out of their hands.

Paris being attacked with a nuke proves Iran cannot exist in a civilized world.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #703 on: May 05, 2026, 04:10:53 pm »
Just declare it a 'police action', directing traffic in the Straits of Hormuz.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #704 on: May 05, 2026, 04:20:20 pm »
Heck no!  The man doesn't stutter.

The entire premise of engaging Iran today is to keep the Bomb out of their hands.

What do you mean by "Trump's engaging Iran"??  @DCPatriot

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #705 on: May 05, 2026, 07:25:36 pm »
Actually, if Iran attacks any US vessel, base or other American asset Trump doesn't need permission from anyone to respond with extreme prejudice indefinitely.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #706 on: May 05, 2026, 07:29:22 pm »
Trump Pauses Project Freedom Amid "Great Progress" Towards 'Complete & Final' Agreement With Iran

Summary
Trump announce 'pause' to Project Freedom amid optimism of a "complete and final" deal with Iran

Rubio declares 'offensive' actions of Operation Epic Fury are over, and now Project Freedom is in swing. Another vessel comes under attack in Hormuz.

UAE under attack again, confirmed in state sources - however which Iran denies doing - instead saying its actions were directed at the United States. White House still hasn't declared end of ceasefire.

Pentagon addresses whether ceasefire over or violated: Caine says Iran's Monday operations were "all below the threshold of restarting major combat operations at this point."

Contradictory statements out of Tehran on UAE attack, amid reports of division between IRGC & civilian leaders.

Two US Navy destroyers transited the Strait of Hormuz and entered the Persian Gulf.

Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi travels to Beijing to discuss crisis with Chinese counterpart.

The odds of a peace deal being completed just jumped...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/two-us-navy-destroyers-transit-hormuz-strait-iranian-factions-reportedly-clash-over

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #707 on: May 05, 2026, 07:36:24 pm »
OMG how many times is Trump gonna fall for this,this is bullshit! .. *****rollingeyes*****


Trump announces temporary pause of 'Project Freedom' amid progress toward Iran deal

President Donald Trump said Tuesday that “Project Freedom,” the U.S. effort to secure ship movement through the Strait of Hormuz, will be paused temporarily following what he described in a post on Truth Social as significant progress toward a potential agreement with Iran.

“Based on the request of Pakistan and other Countries, the tremendous Military Success that we have had during the Campaign against the Country of Iran and, additionally, the fact that Great Progress has been made toward a Complete and Final Agreement with Representatives of Iran, we have mutually agreed that, while the Blockade will remain in full force and effect, Project Freedom (The Movement of Ships through the Strait of Hormuz) will be paused for a short period of time to see whether or not the Agreement can be finalized and signed." Trump said.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #708 on: May 05, 2026, 07:37:32 pm »
He's dead Jim!


Uncertainty over Iran’s Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei’s health and the ambiguity around Iran’s leadership are raising questions about who is in charge, the Jerusalem Post reported Tuesday.

“Whether Mojtaba is well is a question we have been asking since February 28,” Dr. Thamar Eilam Gindin said Tuesday in a radio interview, the outlet reported.

“The answer changes with every leak. Rumors that he is dead are multiplying, which is what many thought from the beginning," Gindin said.

Speculation intensified after a ceremony in a small Iranian city honoring “martyrs of the war,” where Mojtaba's photograph reportedly appeared among the images displayed.

Gindin said Mojtaba roles have also largely been unofficial or unclear.

“There is a group, and it is not clear who they are, that says things in Mojtaba’s name and uses him as legitimacy for the decisions they make,” she said.

She described what has been called the Iranian “deep state,” adding it remains unclear who belongs to the group, how it operates, or how decisions are made.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #709 on: May 05, 2026, 07:41:26 pm »
OMG how many times is Trump gonna fall for this,this is bullshit! .. *****rollingeyes*****


Trump announces temporary pause of 'Project Freedom' amid progress toward Iran deal

President Donald Trump said Tuesday that “Project Freedom,” the U.S. effort to secure ship movement through the Strait of Hormuz, will be paused temporarily following what he described in a post on Truth Social as significant progress toward a potential agreement with Iran.

“Based on the request of Pakistan and other Countries, the tremendous Military Success that we have had during the Campaign against the Country of Iran and, additionally, the fact that Great Progress has been made toward a Complete and Final Agreement with Representatives of Iran, we have mutually agreed that, while the Blockade will remain in full force and effect, Project Freedom (The Movement of Ships through the Strait of Hormuz) will be paused for a short period of time to see whether or not the Agreement can be finalized and signed." Trump said.

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Well, if you kill enough of them, there will be peace.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #710 on: May 05, 2026, 07:46:24 pm »
OMG how many times is Trump gonna fall for this,this is bullshit! .. *****rollingeyes*****

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Trump announces temporary pause of 'Project Freedom' amid progress toward Iran deal

President Donald Trump said Tuesday that “Project Freedom,” the U.S. effort to secure ship movement through the Strait of Hormuz, will be paused temporarily following what he described in a post on Truth Social as significant progress toward a potential agreement with Iran.

“Based on the request of Pakistan and other Countries, the tremendous Military Success that we have had during the Campaign against the Country of Iran and, additionally, the fact that Great Progress has been made toward a Complete and Final Agreement with Representatives of Iran, we have mutually agreed that, while the Blockade will remain in full force and effect, Project Freedom (The Movement of Ships through the Strait of Hormuz) will be paused for a short period of time to see whether or not the Agreement can be finalized and signed." Trump said.

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I don't know. But he needs to get over the fact that he is a "deal maker" and realize these people really don't want a deal. I will hazard a guess and say his hesitation has already made him weak in Iran's eyes.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #711 on: May 05, 2026, 07:53:27 pm »
Iran is running the clock. At some point it is going to run out, and they'll have their nuclear weapon. Then what?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #712 on: May 05, 2026, 08:34:31 pm »

OMG how many times is Trump gonna fall for this,this is bullshit! .. *****rollingeyes*****



Trump announces temporary pause of 'Project Freedom' amid progress toward Iran deal

President Donald Trump said Tuesday that “Project Freedom,” the U.S. effort to secure ship movement through the Strait of Hormuz, will be paused temporarily following what he described in a post on Truth Social as significant progress toward a potential agreement with Iran.

“Based on the request of Pakistan and other Countries, the tremendous Military Success that we have had during the Campaign against the Country of Iran and, additionally, the fact that Great Progress has been made toward a Complete and Final Agreement with Representatives of Iran, we have mutually agreed that, while the Blockade will remain in full force and effect, Project Freedom (The Movement of Ships through the Strait of Hormuz) will be paused for a short period of time to see whether or not the Agreement can be finalized and signed." Trump said.

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Project Freedom was working. It is a tremendous success. The Iranians are desperate to stop it! And they know Trump's Kryptonite. The know Trump's key weakness as did Putin. They both know that if say the magic words, Trump will melt and surrender immediately.

The words which always make Trump kneel are, "I am ready to make a deal." When Trump hears the words 'make a deal', he loses his mind and halts everything immediately.

"MAKE A DEAL!! YES! YES! STOP EVERYTHING NOW!! WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A DEAL!"
"THIS TIME IT IS FOR REAL! THIS TIME IT WILL WORK! MAKE A DEAL! I'M GOING TO MAKE A DEAL!"

He is acting like a gulible fool.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #713 on: May 05, 2026, 08:37:10 pm »
Project Freedom was working. It is a tremendous success. The Iranians are desperate to stop it! And they know Trump's Kryptonite. The know Trump's key weakness as did Putin. They both know that if say the magic words, Trump will melt and surrender immediately.

The words which always make Trump kneel are, "I am ready to make a deal." When Trump hears the words 'make a deal', he loses his mind and halts everything immediately.

"MAKE A DEAL!! YES! YES! STOP EVERYTHING NOW!! WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A DEAL!"
"THIS TIME IT IS FOR REAL! THIS TIME IT WILL WORK! MAKE A DEAL! I'M GOING TO MAKE A DEAL!"

He is acting like a gulible fool.

My two cents on Trump right now - Damn it.  What the hell is he thinking???? We're all going to be targets soon.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #714 on: May 05, 2026, 08:47:40 pm »
My two cents on Trump right now - Damn it.  What the hell is he thinking???? We're all going to be targets soon.
Don't worry. Trump is going to make a big beautiful deal. The best deal ever in history.
And I am sure the Iranians will obey all the terms and conditions of Trump's "deal" just like they always do.

Why he does not just crush them like a bug and blow them off the Earth is a real mystery.
This crazy obsession with 'making a deal' is bewildering to say the least.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #715 on: May 05, 2026, 09:14:58 pm »
Project Freedom was working. It is a tremendous success. The Iranians are desperate to stop it! And they know Trump's Kryptonite. The know Trump's key weakness as did Putin. They both know that if say the magic words, Trump will melt and surrender immediately.

The words which always make Trump kneel are, "I am ready to make a deal." When Trump hears the words 'make a deal', he loses his mind and halts everything immediately.

"MAKE A DEAL!! YES! YES! STOP EVERYTHING NOW!! WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A DEAL!"
"THIS TIME IT IS FOR REAL! THIS TIME IT WILL WORK! MAKE A DEAL! I'M GOING TO MAKE A DEAL!"

He is acting like a gulible fool.
Trump may be a gullible fool, but I'd venture to guess that members of his cabinet are not.  Wait and see how this shakes out before throwing in the towel.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #716 on: May 05, 2026, 10:13:27 pm »

Trump may be a gullible fool, but I'd venture to guess that members of his cabinet are not.  Wait and see how this shakes out before throwing in the towel.
Time is an issue. There are ships in the strait which have been trapped for months. They are running out of food and water.
They were due to be escorted out. Now Trump has stranded them there even longer for who knows how long while he 'makes a deal'.
My point of view is SCREW A DEAL! What he was doing was working, which is why Iran was desperate to stop/delay/postpone it in anyway possible.
Now they have tricked Trump again like they did with that STUPID 'ceasefire' which Iran never observed.
Every time Trump is on the edge of victory, the Iranians manage to cajole him somehow into stopping right at the edge.
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Islam sanitizes oppression. Islam rebrands cruelty as culture, and expects applause from Liberal fools for their Islamic progressivism.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists