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Spanberger's 'unconstitutional' push to redefine presidential elections makes voters 'NULL AND VOID': critics

Virginia Republicans posted that the bill is 'an unconstitutional assault on our democracy'
Peter Pinedo By Peter Pinedo Fox News
Published April 14, 2026 4:32pm EDT
 

Youngkin accuses Spanberger of hiding of who she really was
One of the Democratic Party’s rising star governors, Abigail Spanberger of Virginia, is being slammed for signing a bill to award the state’s presidential electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote.

The bill signed by Spanberger adds Virginia to the National Popular Vote Compact, an interstate agreement between states to award the entirety of their electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote. Virginia Republicans railed against the bill, arguing it makes the state’s votes "NULL AND VOID."

This comes as Spanberger, who was recently selected to deliver the Democrats’ response to President Donald Trump’s State of the Union, has seen her approval ratings plummet. Critics have accused her of abandoning her centrist campaign message to advance far-left policies.


Criticisms of Spanberger erupted anew after news broke that Spanberger had approved the bill. The Virginia Republican Party posted on X that "fake Moderate Spanberger just signed a bill to render Virginians’ vote for president NULL AND VOID!"

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/spanbergers-unconstitutional-push-redefine-presidential-elections-makes-voters-null-void-critics
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How did she get the Bill to sign? I think Virginia's problems run far deeper than just the Governor's office.
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Smokin' Joe observes:
"How did she get the Bill to sign? I think Virginia's problems run far deeper than just the Governor's office."

Yep.
Remember spanberger won by 15 percentage points. Something like 57-42%.
The good people of northern/eastern Virginia are getting EXACTLY what they voted for...
(sorry for the folks down in the southern and southwestern outlands...)

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Smokin' Joe observes:
"How did she get the Bill to sign? I think Virginia's problems run far deeper than just the Governor's office."

Yep.
Remember spanberger won by 15 percentage points. Something like 57-42%.
The good people of northern/eastern Virginia are getting EXACTLY what they voted for...
(sorry for the folks down in the southern and southwestern outlands...)
Well, at least the folks west of the Blue Ridge will have terrain sheltering working for them when the balloon goes up.
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Here's my take.  The Constitution says:

Amendment XIV

Section 2

But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President
of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state.

Spanbarger is denying the right to vote in part.  Before this change, the voters of the Commonwealth had a 100% stake in choosing its electors.  But if Spanberger gets her way, that stake is reduced to roughly 2.8%.  Thus, Virginia's representation in Congress should be adjusted accordingly.  Their number of Representatives should be reduced to 2.8% of 13, or 0.37 Reps (rounded up to 1).  In other words, Virginia loses 12 Congressional seats.
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My thoughts on NPV, were previously posted twelve years ago. But for some reason, those older posts have disappeared, so I'll repost from my archived version:
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This issue will eventually end up before the U.S. Supreme Court.

I predict that -- unless the current 5-4 conservative majority is changed through future appointments -- that NPV will be declared unconstitutional.

In that court case, the proponents of NPV will argue that under the Constitution, that the states [via their legislatures] have the choice of assigning presidential electors, and therefore the states are within Constitutional bounds by assigning electors based on a "national majority vote total."

The Supreme Court will disagree -- or more correctly, they will restrict and clarify how electors may be assigned per the Constituion.

Their opinion will state that yes -- states DO have a right to assign presidential electors in the manner that they see fit.

HOWEVER, when a state chooses to hold a statewide election in which voters vote for their choice of of electors, that that state must be bound by the decision of its voters, and to disregard and overrule the outcome of such election for ANY reason amounts to an unconstitutional disenfrancishement of those voters.

To clarify: if a state indeed wanted to choose electors based on "popular vote" in _other states_, yes, it has the Constitution right to do so -- SO LONG AS it DOES NOT have an in-state election by the voters of that state.

The choice will be up to each state:
Either
1. Have an in-state election for electors, and be bound by the decision of the states "internal" vote, or
2. Abolish the in-state election and permit the state legislature to assign electors based on some tally of "the national popular vote" (such tally which must come from a vote elsewhere).

Simply stated -- if you're going to have an in-state election by the state's [resident] voters, you will be bound by the results.

Of course, states like Massachusetts will then be free to abide by NPV if they wish -- so long as they forbid _Massachusetts voters_ to participate IN the presidential election.

How many states are going to be willing to abolish in-state presidential elections?
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Again:
To defeat NPV, our side must argue from the point of "disenfranchisement", perhaps using the Fourteenth Amendment ("equal protection of the laws") for support, along with the Voting Rights Act.

Yes, all the states that sign NPV have the right to assign their electors as they wish, but to do so, they must forego conducting a presidential "election" in their respective states.
Because, if they have an election, they are bound to abide by the RESULTS of the election -in their state-, as determined by the voters -in their state-.
As such, they cannot disregard the decision of their state's voters -- UNLESS they cancel the elections altogether.
Then, the legislature can assign the electors any way they wish.

It's worth noting that for years, southern states were able to prevent the votes of blacks from being cast, and by doing so preventing blacks from influencing the outcome of such elections. Hence, The Voting Rights Act. It's time to "turn the tables" on the left, and use the VRA to defeat "National Popular Vote", which is as overt an attempt to disenfranchise white voters, as were the literacy laws and other techniques used for years to do the same to blacks...
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