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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1900 on: Today at 07:39:56 pm »
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Iran confirms that it has agreed to the ceasefire agreement-Fars

Iran adds that the US accepted its 10-point proposal as the basis for negotiations, including Iranian control of Hormuz, full compensation for war damages, and the withdrawal of American forces from the region.

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« Reply #1901 on: Today at 07:41:05 pm »
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Iran confirms that it has agreed to the ceasefire agreement-Fars

Iran adds that the US accepted its 10-point proposal as the basis for negotiations, including Iranian control of Hormuz, full compensation for war damages, and the withdrawal of American forces from the region.
Oh hell no!

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1903 on: Today at 07:46:25 pm »
Israel has learned this lesson many times. Once a mission is stopped for days or weeks, it is nearly impossible to restart it at the same point.
Two weeks from now, if Iran spits in Trump's face, most people will have forgotten about Epic Fury. Trump will have to start a brand new mission.
This is doable militarily, but political optics and political condemnation will be extremely negative. Iran knows this.

The fanatical leadership in Iran and their murderous thugs in IRGC had only one single goal, which was to simply wait it out and to survive.
Iran never had any delusions of defeating America. They simply wanted to hunker down and wait for America to give up and go away.
IRGC and Iranian government officials are popping champagne tonight. They had a plan. They stuck to it. And in the end, they won.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1904 on: Today at 07:48:17 pm »
Would imagine that they have strategically planned the bombings in "stages".

Not so much for the opportunity to reload, as much as giving the Iranian people the opportunity to rise up!

It HAS to be them to start their path to Freedom.

Interesting report from today @DCPatriot  .....

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Report: Before war, top US officials told Trump that Netanyahu’s regime change plan was ‘bullshit, farcical’
Times of Israel, Apr 7, 2026

The New York Times reveals details of a series of situation room meetings held by US President Donald Trump in the lead up to the start of the war with Iran, including one in which Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly pitched a plan that would see the end of the Islamic Republic’s regime, apparently later described by the CIA chief as “farcical” and US Secretary of State Marco Rubio as “bullshit.”

According to the report, Netanyahu gave a presentation to a small meeting including the US president on February 11 that outlined plans for a potential conflict.

The Israeli premier apparently suggested that Iran’s ballistic missileThe New York Times reveals details of a series of situation room meetings held by US President Donald Trump in the lead up to the start of the war with Iran, including one in which Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly pitched a plan that would see the end of the Islamic Republic’s regime, apparently later described by the CIA chief as “farcical” and US Secretary of State Marco Rubio as “bullshit.”

Additionally, it was apparently said that Mossad had indicated that the protest movement could be reignited, with the spy agency playing a role, allowing the Iranian opposition to take power amid an intensive campaign of airstrikes. The report says the Israeli team also suggested Kurdish fighters could enter Iran from Iraq in a ground operation.

According to the Times, a day later, CIA Director John Ratcliffe told a meeting of top US officials, including Trump, that Netanyahu’s presentation on potential regime change was “farcical.”

The report says that Rubio then said: “In other words, it’s bullshit.”

When Trump asked Gen. Dan Caine, chair of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, for his opinion, the top military official reportedly told the president that the plan from the Israelis appeared overblown.

“Sir, this is, in my experience, standard operating procedure for the Israelis. They oversell, and their plans are not always well-developed. They know they need us, and that’s why they’re hard-selling,” Caine reportedly said.

The report says that, in fact, Trump appeared most interested in killing the then supreme leader Ali Khamenei and delivering a blow to the regime’s military capabilities, with other aspects of the plan less relevant.

“Over the following days, General Caine shared with Mr. Trump and others the alarming military assessment that a major campaign against Iran would drastically deplete stockpiles of American weaponry, including missile interceptors, whose supply had been strained after years of support for Ukraine and Israel. General Caine saw no clear path to quickly replenishing these stockpiles,” the report says.

“He also flagged the enormous difficulty of securing the Strait of Hormuz and the risks of Iran blocking it. Mr. Trump had dismissed that possibility on the assumption that the regime would capitulate before it came to that. The president appeared to think it would be a very quick war — an impression that had been reinforced by the tepid response to the US bombing of Iran’s nuclear facilities in June,” the New York Times says.

The newspaper says that while Caine’s colleagues believed the military official thought war with Iran was a bad idea, he did not tell Trump his opinion on the matter.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-before-war-top-us-officials-told-trump-that-netanyahus-regime-change-plan-was-bullshit-farcical/.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1905 on: Today at 07:48:18 pm »
Alright..enough with the personal attacks please.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1906 on: Today at 07:50:12 pm »
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Iran confirms that it has agreed to the ceasefire agreement-Fars

Iran adds that the US accepted its 10-point proposal as the basis for negotiations, including Iranian control of Hormuz, full compensation for war damages, and the withdrawal of American forces from the region.

...OMG..I can't believe they would agree to this....please tell me this is wrong!
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1907 on: Today at 07:51:25 pm »
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🚨 BREAKING: President Trump just said on a phone call that he is "cautiously but SERIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC"

"He told me the negotiations are incredibly complex, and does not want them jeopardized."

Art of the deal! Iran knew 47 was serious.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1908 on: Today at 07:52:52 pm »
Here they are  :facepalm: Not the same as posted above..

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#BREAKING

Trump has agreed to these 10 points for a peace plan as a basis for negotiations:

Iran's Ten-Point Peace Plan:
1. Ensuring Iran is not subjected to another attack
2. Permanently ending the war, not just a ceasefire
3. Ending Israeli strikes in Lebanon
4. Lifting all U.S. sanctions imposed on Iran
5. Ending all regional skirmishes against Iran's allies
6. Reopening the Strait of Hormuz
7. Imposing a fee of two million U.S. dollars on every ship passing through the Strait of Hormuz
8. Sharing these fees with the Sultanate of Oman
9. Establishing rules for safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz
10. Using Hormuz passage fees for reconstruction instead of compensation
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« Reply #1910 on: Today at 07:55:43 pm »
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BREAKING:

The Strait Of Hormuz is officially reopened.

Thank you, President Trump.

I'll bet all those panicans will RELAX now.
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« Reply #1912 on: Today at 07:57:57 pm »
All about the price of gas... 8888crybaby
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1916 on: Today at 08:04:54 pm »
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So Trump goes full scorched-earth rhetoric. He gets mocked, called dangerous, “unhinged” and then within hours?Iran says they’ll open the Strait of Hormuz after he told Iran they better open it or else.

You can hate the tone. You can hate the man but you can’t ignore the result.

This is called The Art of the Deal—backed by the reality that he’ll actually pull the trigger. Of course, if Iran doesn’t open the straight then Hellish fury will rain down on the Regime and Trump will  have even more leverage after the dust settles.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1918 on: Today at 08:07:26 pm »
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I just spoke with the President and would like to publicly congratulate him on this. Some of my not-so-smart Democrat colleagues will soon be forced to issue public statements of support when they understand the terms of what the agreement is. To be clear, President Trump has been consistent and precise in his messaging from the beginning. Only weeks ago, Iran was viewed as an existential threat to the US and most of Europe. NATO exposed who they really are. Many people got exposed. Those who try to use this to sow division or just straight-up lie have also outed themselves. To be clear, from the beginning, this was about saving American lives. President Trump has truly accomplished something that no other POTUS could have pulled off. PEACE WILL ULTIMATELY PREVAIL.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1919 on: Today at 08:08:19 pm »
This is far from over.  If Iran keeps shooting missiles all over the region, the deal is going to be off.
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« Reply #1920 on: Today at 08:09:03 pm »
General Keane on Fox..does not agree with Trump on this and says we have to finish what we started.

I need a transcript because he is spot on..
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« Reply #1921 on: Today at 08:10:21 pm »
I guess the human shields at the bridges can go home tonight.  Might be a good time to blow there shit up.
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« Reply #1922 on: Today at 08:11:06 pm »
@cato potatoe Who would you rather have in his place. Neville Chamberlain, Joe Biden, Bill Clinton, Barak Obozo, Perhaps Hillary, Kamala, Al Gore.
Let me know, I would love to know your first choice.

There were plenty of politicians who would have been able to negotiate with Iran without threatening genocide or manufacturing a global recession.  Y'all insisted on this senile TV celebrity, and he did manage to sneak past Kamala despite getting skunked in the debate.  But now he has made people forget how much Biden sucked.  So who is your choice for the next 8 years?  Newsom, Ossoff, Shapiro, or Pritzker?

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« Reply #1925 on: Today at 08:15:39 pm »
There were plenty of politicians who would have been able to negotiate with Iran without threatening genocide or manufacturing a global recession.  Y'all insisted on this senile TV celebrity, and he did manage to sneak past Kamala despite getting skunked in the debate.  But now he has made people forget how much Biden sucked.  So who is your choice for the next 8 years?  Newsom, Ossoff, Shapiro, or Pritzker?

It doesn't matter who the next Dem is.  Trump will have saved them from caving to Islam.  So thank your Daddy for letting you sleep safe tommorow.   
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1926 on: Today at 08:15:44 pm »
Would you please shut the f8ck up on the nuke bullshit you are spouting..  If they had a nuke Iseral would be gone. 

God woman you are so obtuse.  Not as obtuse as that obtuse Lawn Flamino RiV who wants Trump 25th...but still.  Grab a glass of wine, go sit on your Florida over 55 community pool and relax.

@Wingnut I wish I were as confident as you are that Iran isn't going to utilize this time to rearm, regroup and retaliate. 

They still control the Strait of Hormuz, they still are going to slaughter those trying to rise up against them and they're still bombing Israel.  So WTH?? 

Not trying to be 'obtuse' for crying out loud, but I think Trump has made a huge mistake.  So ...  we wait two weeks to see what happens?  Meanwhile, what do you think Iran is going to do??  Play nice with their neighbors?? 
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« Reply #1928 on: Today at 08:23:39 pm »
Still looking for the Gen Keane transcript..he did mention that this 2 week ceasefire gives the regime time to resupply their armaments..and it will be much harder for the military to resume where they left off..
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« Reply #1929 on: Today at 08:24:00 pm »

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2041669803900117076

Iran is still shooting missiles at Israel.  Iran is violating before the signature is dry.  Thank goodness!!
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« Reply #1931 on: Today at 08:26:36 pm »
Here they are  :facepalm: Not the same as posted above..

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#BREAKING

Trump has agreed to these 10 points for a peace plan as a basis for negotiations:

Iran's Ten-Point Peace Plan:
1. Ensuring Iran is not subjected to another attack
2. Permanently ending the war, not just a ceasefire
3. Ending Israeli strikes in Lebanon
4. Lifting all U.S. sanctions imposed on Iran
5. Ending all regional skirmishes against Iran's allies
6. Reopening the Strait of Hormuz
7. Imposing a fee of two million U.S. dollars on every ship passing through the Strait of Hormuz
8. Sharing these fees with the Sultanate of Oman
9. Establishing rules for safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz
10. Using Hormuz passage fees for reconstruction instead of compensation

....hmmm...... very hard to accept that Trump agreed to this.  $200M to pass through that Strait.  Iran using that $$ for reconstruction?  Reconstruction or re-armament???? 

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« Reply #1932 on: Today at 08:27:06 pm »
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The IRGC will violate the ceasefire and the U.S. and Israel will have to respond.

The negotiators cannot control the IRGC because it is fractured and what's left is intentionally operating as disparate units capable of launching missiles and drones.

We'll be watching for violations and are likely to wake up to them tomorrow morning.
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« Reply #1933 on: Today at 08:27:46 pm »
Iran is still shooting missiles at Israel.  Iran is violating before the signature is dry.  Thank goodness!!

I hear ya, but I think Trump isn't going to do a darn thing for another two weeks.
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« Reply #1934 on: Today at 08:29:16 pm »
....hmmm...... very hard to accept that Trump agreed to this.  $200M to pass through that Strait.  Iran using that $$ for reconstruction?  Reconstruction or re-armament????

re-armament of course...I think they ran out of the money O'bama gave them...
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1935 on: Today at 08:31:39 pm »
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A ceasefire that leaves the IRGC in power isn’t peace.

It’s permission.

Permission to regroup.
Permission to rearm.
Permission to do it all over again.

That’s not a win. That’s a delay.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1936 on: Today at 08:34:59 pm »
So when has Iran ever been trustworthy??? Does Trump honestly think that any agreement or ceasefire will be honored by Iran????

Even at that, I also highly doubt that this supposed ceasefire is going to stop the DEMS from starting impeachment proceedings.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1937 on: Today at 08:35:37 pm »
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A ceasefire that leaves the IRGC in power isn’t peace.

It’s permission.

Permission to regroup.
Permission to rearm.
Permission to do it all over again.

That’s not a win. That’s a delay.

Spot on.  I think that's how many people see this.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1938 on: Today at 08:36:59 pm »
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« Reply #1939 on: Today at 08:37:49 pm »
Democrats are slashing their wrists and jumping off buildings at such good news.

Two week cease fire and Hormuz Strait opening.


https://www.nbcnews.com/world/iran/live-blog/live-updates-iran-war-trump-deadline-hormuz-infrastructure-ceasefire-rcna267039
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1941 on: Today at 08:38:56 pm »
Indeed God is Good.

All the time.
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« Reply #1942 on: Today at 08:39:30 pm »
re-armament of course...I think they ran out of the money O'bama gave them...

Indeed ... $200M per passage through the Strait can buy a lot of what they need to go for round #2.  Meanwhile how is the U.S. going to recoup the billions that they just spent trying to stop this regime?  The Ayatollah is dead and other leaders as well, but there has not been a regime change.

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« Reply #1943 on: Today at 08:39:44 pm »
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🚨 HEADS UP: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Dan Caine will hold a press conference tomorrow morning at 8:00 AM ET.

Expect updates on the Iran ceasefire, the Strait of Hormuz, and the next steps after tonight’s developments.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1944 on: Today at 08:41:22 pm »
 There is an open thread on this topic.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1945 on: Today at 08:43:12 pm »
Don't forget that this war is hurting everyone with high prices.  Believe me I'm a huge loser in this as oil prices will collapse.  No more loss of life....  we'll see what happens in 2 weeks.  happy77
Those of us in the upstream end of the industry have been looking on this as a spike, not a trend. AFAIK, drilling programs here have not been altered, and drilling activity has not picked up significantly (<1%).
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1946 on: Today at 08:44:54 pm »

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Here's a problem with this  pointing-up  knee jerk analysis .... Trump had unconditional surrender in the palm of his hand. If he'd started bombing selective infrastructure with Israel at 8:01 ET, Iran would have been on its knees by 8:30 ET agreeing to Trump's demands and signing them within 24 hours.

Instead, Trump blinked.  I'd love to know why.

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« Reply #1947 on: Today at 08:47:04 pm »
Trump is communicating like Hitler when he spoke of jews and soviets.  "A whole civilization will die tonight."

Bullshit.


This is not a war of annihilation

The mullahs think otherwise.  What part of 'Death to America' do you not get?


He is totally unfit for the position, and needs to be removed immediately.

Based on something he said?  Not actually did, but said?
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« Reply #1948 on: Today at 08:52:39 pm »
That human chain thingey is a war crime, correct?

It is a sober testimony that they do not believe their own 72-virgin religious rhetoric.  Because if they did, they'd leave the children out of it and guard the bridges themselves.
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« Reply #1949 on: Today at 08:54:17 pm »
Here's a problem with this  pointing-up  knee jerk analysis .... Trump had unconditional surrender in the palm of his hand. If he'd started bombing selective infrastructure with Israel at 8:01 ET, Iran would have been on its knees by 8:30 ET agreeing to Trump's demands and signing them within 24 hours.

Instead, Trump blinked.  I'd love to know why.

I agree.  I'd love to know why Trump blinked as well.
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