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Re: Live Thread: Israel, US launch attack on Iran Part 2
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Iran is using suicide drones.  Who would have ever guessed that automation would take jobs away from dedicated martyrdom seaking muslims.
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Re: Live Thread: Israel, US launch attack on Iran Part 2
« Reply #12 on: Today at 12:56:41 pm »
Just some thoughts. Feel free to knock 'em down. Should be easy... after all, I'm the dumbest guy in the forum.

But...
This conflict has the potential to ignite a greater mideast-wide struggle of islam v. The West.
Not just the "iranian brand" of "12th imam" islam, but... everything. Remember... it's not just "radical" muslims who believe what the quran says about non-muslims -- it's what ALL devout muslims believe. Even if only the more fervent among them are motivated to act upon such scripture.

Again and again, I see posts in this thread to wit: "We own the sky" above iran (and iranian targets).
Well, ok.
But so long as the imams remain in control on the ground, what have we achieved? As soon as the bombing stops, and they can rebuild, they WILL rebuild.

What did "owning the sky" do for us in Vietnam?

So long as that enrinched uranium remains intact and accessible to them, they'll acquire new equipment and pick up where they left off. They were already in the process of doing that after the 12-day war.

The only way to prevent this is to SEIZE and REMOVE all enriched uranium from iran. How is this going to be done without "boots on the ground"?

Are we going to accept the word of "inspectors" (such as "UN inspectors") who in all likelihood will not be American, and perhaps even be predisposed to sympathize for the iranians (and lie for them as well)?

Recall how fanatical the Japanese were, even after the atomic bombs, some STILL wanted to keep the war going. True, Japan surrendered before Americans set foot on the main islands, but the surrender looked like this:

Nothing less than a full surrender by iran will do.
Who will step from their ranks to appear before the Americans and do this?

I daresay that the imams who run iran are as fanatical -- or MORESO -- than were the Japanese in 1945. What is it really going to take to make them stop believing in THEIR god -- enough so as to sign a surrender to "the great satan"?

When we defeated Germany in 1945, did we let the Nazis remain in power?
Leaving the islamic republic in place in 2026 will constitute EXACTLY THE SAME THING.
I challenge you to educate me as to how it would be otherwise.

Things seem to be ridin' high right now. But that could change quickly.
What will it REALLY take to achieve victory over islam in iran?

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🇮🇷🇺🇸 | The next phase of the war (in 3-4 weeks).

After the IRGC & Basij are completely paralysed.

And the revolution begins.

The U.S will pull back its jets, ships.

Then they will fly THOUSANDS of drones over Iran 24/7.

Hitting any isolated Basij / IRGC units suppressing the revolution.

It is game over…
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Will uprooting this ⬆️ require boots on the ground?

I sure hope not...I don't want to see boots on the ground...
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« Reply #27 on: Today at 01:43:32 pm »
Iranian submarine Fateh, now sunk, was 527 tons surfaced, the first, so far only, and probably last of her class. She carried 4 torpedoes. Her size and probable range means she was basically suitable for the Persian Gulf, Gulf of Oman, and areas of the Arabian Sea. So her roles were coastal defense and commerce raiding. Hope the sunken warriors are enjoying their 72 Ursulas.

ETA: The Iranian navy had 3 Russian-built Kilo class submarines. Two may have been in refit a week ago. They are much more modern, of course, but they are a bit larger than a USN Gato class submarine. The chances of Iran's Kilos all being on eternal patrol within weeks, if not already, are very high.
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There is unconfirmed reports US/Israeli special forces have landed in Al-Batha and Najaf in Iraq.
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Again and again, I see posts in this thread to wit: "We own the sky" above iran (and iranian targets).
Well, ok.

Things seem to be ridin' high right now. But that could change quickly.
What will it REALLY take to achieve victory over islam in iran?

I have no answers @Fishrrman .... I just have similar questions.  I also have GWB memories that keep popping up .... Quick initial victory, purple fingers, troop surges, nation building, .... alongside 20 years in Afghanistan.

IMO, someone needs to start asking not about how we got in, but about how we get out ---- or here we go again---

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🛩️IRANIAN JET SHOT DOWN: An IAF F-35I “Adir” fighter jet shot down an Iranian Air Force YAK-130 fighter jet.

This is the first shootdown in history of a manned fighter aircraft by an F-35 “Adir” fighter jet.

The Yak-130 is an advanced trainer that can be used in combat if really really really needed. It's subsonic. It's like a mid 90s analog of the late 70s and 1980s French-German Alpha Jet.
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I sure hope not...I don't want to see boots on the ground...

I don't think anyone wants to see boots on  the ground.
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A clash reportedly erupted between U.S. forces and Iraqi Army troops after American units landed in the desert near the Al-Nahib stream.[...]
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Why are US troops landing in the desert?

The whole damned place is a desert.
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I sure hope not...I don't want to see boots on the ground...

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The whole damned place is a desert.

No! There are snowcapped mountains in Iran, and I know because I've been on them.
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The whole damned place is a desert.


Good point  :laugh: 

Permit me to rephrase the question:   Why are US troops landing anywhere in the Middle East?

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« Reply #45 on: Today at 02:14:20 pm »
Just some thoughts. Feel free to knock 'em down. Should be easy... after all, I'm the dumbest guy in the forum.

But...
This conflict has the potential to ignite a greater mideast-wide struggle of islam v. The West.
Not just the "iranian brand" of "12th imam" islam, but... everything. Remember... it's not just "radical" muslims who believe what the quran says about non-muslims -- it's what ALL devout muslims believe. Even if only the more fervent among them are motivated to act upon such scripture.

Again and again, I see posts in this thread to wit: "We own the sky" above iran (and iranian targets).
Well, ok.
But so long as the imams remain in control on the ground, what have we achieved? As soon as the bombing stops, and they can rebuild, they WILL rebuild.

What did "owning the sky" do for us in Vietnam?

So long as that enrinched uranium remains intact and accessible to them, they'll acquire new equipment and pick up where they left off. They were already in the process of doing that after the 12-day war.

The only way to prevent this is to SEIZE and REMOVE all enriched uranium from iran. How is this going to be done without "boots on the ground"?

Are we going to accept the word of "inspectors" (such as "UN inspectors") who in all likelihood will not be American, and perhaps even be predisposed to sympathize for the iranians (and lie for them as well)?

Recall how fanatical the Japanese were, even after the atomic bombs, some STILL wanted to keep the war going. True, Japan surrendered before Americans set foot on the main islands, but the surrender looked like this:

Nothing less than a full surrender by iran will do.
Who will step from their ranks to appear before the Americans and do this?

I daresay that the imams who run iran are as fanatical -- or MORESO -- than were the Japanese in 1945. What is it really going to take to make them stop believing in THEIR god -- enough so as to sign a surrender to "the great satan"?

When we defeated Germany in 1945, did we let the Nazis remain in power?
Leaving the islamic republic in place in 2026 will constitute EXACTLY THE SAME THING.
I challenge you to educate me as to how it would be otherwise.

Things seem to be ridin' high right now. But that could change quickly.
What will it REALLY take to achieve victory over islam in iran?

Not a fan of Mike Tyson, but like he once said:
"Everyone has a plan... until..."
I am inclined to agree with you, but guardedly optimistic.
This could get very large scale, considering the perfusion of Islamics in the west.
But, as has been noted, this is a conflict which will happen, one way or another.
The question is one of whether this is the best time (considering we cannot change the past).
France landing where they have is no surprise, considering they capitulated long ago to no-go zones in Paris and the growing small scale terror there, and Great Britain is in little better shape, with much of their country being run by Muslims, and that reflected in their Law Enforcement and general toleration of things which would not have been able to pass as little as 20 years ago.
Then we have our own domestic enclaves, ignoring, or simply scoffing at our laws while they raid the treasury.
So, yes, this could get much larger with the disclosure and prosecution of Somali and other scams being perpetrated here at home, and the attempts which are being made to dominate (some successful, so far) over largely Christian communities.

It isn't a question of conflict (that's already on the table) but what form it will take and how violent it will become.
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Two senior Iranian officials say Iran refuses to engage in talks with the US because it has repeatedly used talks as cover for attacks.

Iran has concluded the US cannot be trusted – and every other country will have concluded exactly the same.

The US has killed diplomacy.
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Re: Live Thread: Israel, US launch attack on Iran Part 2
« Reply #47 on: Today at 02:16:08 pm »


Good point  :laugh: 

Permit me to rephrase the question:   Why are US troops landing anywhere in the Middle East?

Maybe there is a coordinated effort for intelligence sharing with Kurd forces in case we  are going to provide air support if they attack Iran.
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Re: Live Thread: Israel, US launch attack on Iran Part 2
« Reply #48 on: Today at 02:17:30 pm »


Good point  :laugh: 

Permit me to rephrase the question:   Why are US troops landing anywhere in the Middle East?

IIRC 50,000 of our troops are being relocated in the Middle East.
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Re: Live Thread: Israel, US launch attack on Iran Part 2
« Reply #49 on: Today at 02:17:54 pm »
 "Top Pentagon officials on Wednesday suggested that the Iran war could extend into a longer conflict — saying the fighting is “far from over” — even as they declined to explain what ultimate victory might look like".........

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/04/hegset-iran-war-just-begun-00811889?utm_content=politico/magazine/Politics&utm_source=flipboard
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